yes.....

I am in the US and I got the same message, not a big deal, I trust them.

I agree! :winkwink:

Yes - In the US if you are a contract worker the company is required to have an I-9 form on file for you and to verify two pieces of ID in person - or two other combinations- but I doubt highly that these web companies have been asked for that type of documentation YET - all depends on how their lawyers advise them as to their "labor force" and its definition :)

I thought so

I have done a lot of long term contract work in the past, and they almost always ask for at least one form of ID

it is only time before the feds crack down on affiliate programs and start requiring the same

it's a fraud deterrent. why attack them for protecting their business? fraud is an extremely huge problem in this industry.

I signed up for them but decided not to send that info.

I only make maybe a millionth of what many folks here do but my CPA suggested a few years ago that I get a (well shit, went brain dead) the ID that doesn't include your social security number. Dang, I killed too many brain cells in the 1960's. Most sponsors accept that. It makes one feel a bit better about giving out personal info.

Oh for God's sake, they can ask for DNA samples if they want to, and it's up to you to decide whether or not to give it to them.

Sponsors have the right to protect themselves from fraudulent affiliates, and honest affiliates should be glad for that. It's like shoplifting -- cheater affiliates cost honest ones money.

No, no and no ! You sound like Bush explaining us why our privacy is violated to protect us from evil terrorists.

Fraud is a problem, but there are other ways sponsors can protect themselves, it doesn't justify asking for any personal documents in my opinion.

LOL....yeah, I am not quite sure how asking for a photocopy of a ID deters fraud, maybe if you were able to grab the ID in person and photocopy it yourself, but if someone is planning on commiting fraud the quickest thing they are going to do is photoshop a new passporte

That's your opinion. Apparently QB has a different opinion.

QB can choose who they do business with, just like you can choose who to send traffic to. If you don't feel comfortable giving them your information, don't, and send your traffic elsewhere. I doubt QB is losing any business from this, as someone suggested, they seem to prefer doing business with the "players" and this sort of seems like a "thinning of the crowd" type policy.

QB can run their business as they see fit, assuming legal, as can you.

You dont think they are going to lose money because of this policy?

Google doesnt require this form of identification for their programs.

How is this protecting against fraud anyways?

Well, it would seem that the owners of Quickbuck disagree with you. No one is forcing people to send them traffic.

lol think a bit deeper , as i pointed out this would be useless to protect fraud..

Fraudster simply makes a fake id. quickbuck has no authority to check the validity of id's end of story

It makes it 10 times worse if your id is now on some sponsors computers you have no access and dont know who has access to this information.

1 disgruntled employee and your "fraud deterent" turns into massive fraud.

Like i said this isn't attack on quickbuck , i applaud them for trying to deter fraud , but i think from the points i have made its obviously clear this wouldnt do that.. the only thing that might happen is it would cause worse fraud.

No. I don't. I already explained why.

Google is not QB. Why make the comparison?

Burger King doesn't give me garlic taters with my sandwich, Applebee's does.

I highly doubt the cleaning lady has access to stats and personal information. The number of people with said access is probably limited to just a handful of people, at max. If something were to happen, the suspects would be very limited. My ID, with blocked out sensitive information, has no more information on it than the sponsor already has.

Look at the number of affiliate reps that move from company to company over the years. Do you really think they have access to SS and Tax IDs? If so, I haven't heard of any mishaps yet.

Fraud prevention or weeding out the $50 affiliates?

and what happens when quickbuck gets hacked and loses all those id's.


hmm you have thousands of frauds instead of the one you tried to protect..

Companies are required under the law to protect the privacy of its employees etc, if i was to hand over eveything needed to clone my identity to someone , i would want to know who has access to that info and how its protected.

But your right they can ask for a handjob if they want , you dont have to give it to them or work for them..

I just think people should take this into consideration.

Is your entire identity worth a paycheck ?

I realise for security reasons you may not want to elaborate but how do you think this method would protect quickbuck from fraud ?

We are so cool, we only do business with "playa pimps" and want to thin out the crowd ? I don't think any program can afford a childish attitude like this long term and I honestly don't think that's the reason why QB is asking for an ID.

I'd be more worried about losing my SSN to a hacker than my edited ID. Look at all of the people in this thread still using SSN's as opposed to a Tax ID.

You have no problem giving 50 sponsors a SSN but take issue with an edited ID? I really don't understand. Are you THAT ugly? ;-)

all it takes is one quick swipe of a harddrive or 2 :)
could be would be should be :) before i hand over everything required to clone my identity i would want to be assured. 24/7 security guards , camera
if something happened it would be too late to be looking at suspects

They dont mention blocking out the info in the message , and if a non-blloced out id doesnt help protect fraud how is a blocked out one.. having your picture when they have never seen you is hmm rather useless dont you think..



exactly
i know many do
i have .. :)

could be BINGO , but i think this was actually a security measure that hasnt been thought out properly.

Some of the most successful long term companies have exactly this attitude. Affiliate fraud, support costs, all these things go into running a program. 90% of a program's money is made by maybe 10% of the affiliates, tops. 90% of the support requests dont come from that 10% either.

You still haven't mentioned why you're so concerned about an ID but not the SSN that all of these affiliate reps apparently have access to.

an edited i.d. is worthless for deterring fraud or determining who you are , as they have never seen you :)

Or are you so vain you want everyone to see who you are :winkwink:

I have ZERO problems with sending a blanked out i.d. other than why the heck would they want it ?

They want to see who's hot and who's not. I know I'll be getting flowers.

This thread has presented an interesting question. What information do affiliate reps have access to? New thread time.

did terrorists steal peoples ssn's to get on the planes and kill thousands of people or did they use stolen passport scans...

BINGO

Could you get a bank account with no id and just a ssn ? no

i think i mentioned several times why.. because you could be exposing YOURSELF to fraud

Just send them this one

http://i15.tinypic.com/2rgertd.jpg

can you rent a plane with a ssn , nope , can you with a copy of someone id with your photo :) yup

rent a car etc etc the list goes on.

sure there are many things that could be done with just a ssn ( phone company , cable etc ) but not nearly as concerning.. I do think affiliates should be carefull though..

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

With an SSN I can apply for many lines of credit and rack them up. I have applied for over 6 lines of credit online and not one has ever requested photo ID. When I buy things with my CC, ID is rarely requested.

We have decided to do this because the high level of fraud being sent through our program because of all the promo's and things we run. If you have somthing to hide then dont worry about it. We need to protect our self as well. Obviously we feel we will save more $ then we will lose. If you have an issue with the ID issue feel free to hit me up I am not hard to get ahold of.

Now click my sig below to find out how you to can retire at a young age

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wiseman, can you tell us what has been done to secure them id's from being stolen? Are they stored on a computer connected to the internet? or Stored in a filing cabinet under lock and key?

Gary

wow more than google who doesnt require id's ?
by opening all your affiliates up to possible fraud ? hmm that doesnt sound very smart. you protect yourself at the expense of the affiliates

http://gfy.webspacemania.com/spa/33/

done and done..

I should reiterate here , i stronly support quickbuck taking a stance against fraud , it helps us in the end, but i think they should rethink this idea and come up with some more reassuring words than " send us your id or you dont get paid" like how this is will be protected , several people mentioned blocking out portions of the id that could cause a hacker or disgruntled employee to acccess the info.

Thats a pretty shitty statement Wiseman, not everyone who doesnt want you to have their US picture ID has something to hide. Regardless this does zero to protect you against fraud, the fraudsters will simply make fake IDs if they really want to scam you. :2 cents:

Well like I said feel free to hit us up. But this is what we feel we need to do.
You dont understand how easy it is for someone to sign up an acount. Put thre name as Ronald Fucking McDonald address of 666 hell st Chicago Il. Payment to my epass please [email protected] And then once we are getting sued because of somthing we have no protection. Or they go and slam a bunch of credit cards through us. Like I said if you are good affiliate have some traffic to send me feel free to hit me up.
Sorry if this inconviniences you. Trust me it sucks for us as well.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh !!

Needing identity verification seems almost like an obsession in the US in comparison to the UK for example. Be that as it may, as a general principle I don't care, since I'm not trying to hide anyway.

But there is the very obvious question as to how exactly, me being who I claim to be and living where I claim to live, is of any real value. I could be open about myself, but dishonest in my business practises. I could operate as honestly as anyone might wish, yet want to hide my identity and location simply to preserve my privacy.

Nor am I ever clear on why so much information is required, yet it is acceptable to provide it in a way which makes it so easy to fake. Why wouldn't it be preferable for everyone concerned simply to use regular mail: "When you receive this, please visit our site and enter this number as confirmation"? Certainly I might have arranged a drop address, but if I were going to go to that trouble, faking documents for transmission by fax or email would be no problem.

As has been said, security is another issue, particularly since these demands are often a one-way street, made by businesses which cover themselves and their principals in anonymity. Whatever the reasons for such secretiveness, it is a shabby way to do business at root and does nothing to reassure that one's data will be handled securely.

I suspect it is just another of those things which is either done because someone else is doing it, so it must be a good thing. Or else it was an idea which seemed like a good one at the time, but at no point did anyone really think it through.

I emailed mine early last week.. I missed todays payout because kris or whoever is responsible did not update my account :( :( now please correct this.

You know what. for those of you who feel you can get your info in before the end of the month I am paying out $75 on all paid trials the rest of this month for new joins.

Make sure to email me before the 5th to collect the extra cash! make sure subject line says $75 PER GFY THREAD

You can give them your ID. If they start asking for your CC # you need to worry