post count means very little beyond how much free time you have

Umm I'd have to say that's a load of BS right there. I'm not a legal expert, but they are responsible to provide a secure system. Just because they put something in their TOS doesn't make it law.

It's like ENRON having a TOS that said that it was ok for them to steal millions of dollars from little old ladies.

Has anyone ever taken ePassporte to court over their lack of responsibility for securing funds? Maybe that's what will need to happen before they get their shit together. ePassporte is quickly running their name and their reputation into the ground with their approach to customer service and security.

remember their slogan please :(

That is exactly what happened to my designer.

epass took day to respond and when they did he got the same canned reply that you got.

These thefts are either an inside job or they have a serious security leak. Either way epass should shoulder their share of the responsibility.

I will not do business with epass for this very reason. It is the same reason that I do not promote AFF. I don't condone theft and I do not support those that facilitate theft.

Sorry to hear that happened. But that is one more reason what I dont leave much in there, and what I am pulling the rest today. I also do the same with paypal. they can not be trusted either.

If you guys don't like epass, I have a simple solution:

STOP USING THEM.

Either quit using them or quit whining. This shit is getting very old fast.

Yeah, someone could do that, but...

1) They must be sued to Curacao's court. Anybody from Curacao here? I don't think so.

2) Who will be sued then? 'epassporte.com domain'? fax or toll-free line number in US? some company in Curacao?

I bet you don't know much about that offshore islands but in some tax heavens like Curacao you can register ANY company on ANY provided details (i.e. you can register company called "paypal" belongs to "Bill Gates") and nobody would check if your name or address are correct. Its only case of proper amount of money invested and paid as a "tax".

3) I can't see any address on epassporte site. They don't provide any real address. Did you noticed that? Even if you go to Curacao and sue them in local court it all may turn out in bullshit, they can say you're not Curacao citizen or ANYTHING. This is offshore island and tax heaven activity brings them majority of their national income (and tourists of course). So its logical for me that they'll secure 'their' companies as much as they can...

4) I think we all know that the owner of epassporte is the same guy who owns paycom/epoch but nobody knows who is formally set as owner of epassporte company in Curacao. Maybe Mallick, maybe paycom, maybe John Smiths. You can sue them but who said you can receive your money back? And from who then?

I forgot to add. The one and only address they give us is this in whois of their domain. Who knows if its real? And what if its not?

I never leave anything above $100 in there for security reasons myself.

I have the same rule because there's virtually nil legal recourse if something goes wrong.

Which reminds me, a sponsor payment today pushed me over that magical figure - time to clear it out... :thumbsup

i wouldnt dare trust epass...just my 2 cents and the next 2 are free also

Dude they are offshore, you can't do shit ;/

I thought that ePassporte had an office in Santa Monica or somewhere here in LA...is that not correct?

They have an office, that doesn't mean their company is here

If they do business in the US and they obviously do, they have to abide by all applicable US laws. So you are wrong.

Well maybe their operation is based out of the country but if they have an office and employees here then they probably have a business license here and also probably do some banking here. I would not assume that they are "unreachable".

I may be wrong but didn't Shaliza threaten to take legal action against someone who posted some shit about ePassporte on this board a while back? I believe the guy might have gotten banned for his post. If you think ePassporte can sue someone but nobody can sue them because they are out of the country...your wrong.

Are you talking about me and my post? If so, thats what i posted wasn't shit but well known facts.

yeah this should be fine ... :upsidedow

A little scary - people do complain about epass alot and some of the issues are very serious. I guess thats the cost of having a popular,high risk service.

there must be another pay provider similar to epass comming. and those fuckers are only targeted anti-epass campaign. if i dont like anything, i am not using it! so go fuck yourself and use checks or whats best for you, but dont fuck still around about your pc full of viruses and your fucking dumb brain that cant choose better password that "mother". wake up, nothing is for idiots

I dont usually leave any money in my epassporte account over about $20. Which is also the reason I found the fraudulent transfer so quickly. I knew some payments were due on a particluar day, checked the account online, went to the ATM and the money had gone. It would seem that whoever did this was waiting for the right moment to pounce. It would be handy if Epassporte had the option to disable p2p transfers as I never use them, only ever us the ATM...

ummm, I have a feeling he won't be a return customer.


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Oh yeah . . . . and you would automatically give them your business?

oh sorry, my english is not good for longer conversation, i dont understand your reply cause i think you dont undersatnd mine well... mistake is on my side so sorry for posting longer replies :helpme :thumbsup

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hmmm i think the security is not a problem (just for now) till you proved that your PC has not been hacked or something.. maybe some oldschool keyloggers got into your PC.. we never know...

the bad side for epassporte here is that, their support arent really that reliable.. so before most their clients decided to pull out, they better act now...

why they just don't make at least one security layer to protect other people's funds?

Which security feature make epassporte different than any standards fucking free webmail service? Don't you think money should have an extra layer of protection?

If you have said in terms of service that you are not responsible for p2p transactions, what does it mean that you don't care what happen to your customer's money? God damn, learn from shit happens around, if egold is irreversible they protect their accounts with good security .. and if paypal have no extra security than standard webmail and you, they do provide chargeback .. WHAT DOES YOU PROVIDE DAMMIT?

Sounds like your interweb got rooted by elite hackers.

I understood what you said. My suggestion is that, sure, someone else may come along, but why would you trust them if they have no history?

I have transfered tens thousands of funds via epassporte during years. There has been some problems, but they have solved all of them At some point when amounts was getting higher and higher - my account was suspended until verification. They just wanted ID... after that some small things with CC cards, but generally to the date - it works at least for me. Anyway, login security could be much better handled. Maybe they should speak with the man who build ´their backend...

And more we got... :pimp