tsk..tsk..

archelogical evidence has proved many things in the bible thought to be fables to be true though.......

not to take any sides here... but how in hell do you have DNA proof? did he find a jar of spit labeled "Jesus's Spit" to compare it against?

seems pretty silly to me

archelogical evidence has prove many more things in the bible to be false than true. Most of the "true" findings have been shoved into a box with a sledge hammer to make it fit the bible.

[QUOTE=anne;11978433]The Nag Hammadi. Good read :thumbsup

James Cameron is supposed to be on Larry King in about a half hour to talk about it...

do you know what hour?

mell gibson is gonna beat the fuck outta james cameron then make a movie of how bad he beat the fuck out of him

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it's going to hit the fan....

thanks for sharing the info

I agree. There is very little real evidence to support the Bible's version of events and what scraps have been found are often somewhat tenious to say the least.

However if we look to Egypt as the true source of the Biblical stories, ( both old and new testament ),then many of the characters and events stated in the Bible can be reliably linked with real occurences, places and people.

Most of exodus has been proven wrong by Zahi Hawass. The people may have been right, the dates were mostly wrong, the events were wrong. First and foremost, the pyramids were NOT created by jewish slaves.

Yes, Exodus is quite a good example of the misinformation contained in the Bible. Unless we are to belive that there were two Exodus's that were allmost identical in every detail, ( extremely unlikely ), then we must conclude that the Jews deliberatly altered the circumstances surrounding their flight from Egypt probably as a peice of propgander to try to hide the fact that they were quite literally kicked out of the land in upper Egypt that they had squatted on some 200 years earlier after migrating from their original home in Syria.

the shroud of turin was proven to be a fake

Fuck I repented for nothing. HIS soul is still rotting in hell and the human race never really was saved. Everyone's going to hell no matter what but at least now the religious right and all those catholic priest child molesters won't have any more ammo. Or whats the call on this one, ref? He died for sins but isnt resting with his Father? He went to Hell when he died right? So that means he would technically still be there as he would have had to be resurrected and then rise into heaven. This is really fucked up. The world's going to burst into chaos.

But finding all of the names of that family in one tomb is something like 2,000,000 : 1, 900 : 1 from the most conservative stat person.

Given the names, the other documents etc. that were left out of the bible, would tend to point that direction... I wonder if they did any other DNA tests among the family to "prove" that they were related or not.


Very true.

Where was he first burried and resurected from? Sort of makes sense given he died there to be burried there, especially if the Romans etc. were influencing the situation. As for him being poor or not, I don't see where that would really matter. You'd only need one rich support to get the cash to be burried in a place like that.

Here's a thought. What if his followers etc. actually took his body from the first tomb and moved it to a different one in order to ensure no one did anything to his body etc. Given the controversy over him at the time, that sort of makes sense as well. Just look at the crap over where Anna is going to be burried.

Yeah, I wish they had talked about whether they had done more DNA testing than just those 2 bodies.. Guess I'll have to wait and see what they really did.

Definately. The 2 religeous guys on Larry King just came accross as morons as they argued broad strokes and not what the guy was actually saying. How many times did the guy say that the DNA showed that the Jesus and Mary weren't related and yet they kept going on and on about "how could DNA prove it was Jesus"... Morons.

Did anyone watch the documentary?
It was on discovery channel last night.
It was very interesting.

Tried to watch it last night but alas, it wasn't on Canadian satellite. Had to watch Deal or No Deal instead :disgust

We all believe in something.
But i don't believe that that these bones belongs to Jesus and his family. Is not that i don't want to shake my faith,is not possible to be just somebody's else grave and to be coincidencially called same?
Like in our days, many people are called Jessus, Maria ,Magdalena(Jesus mostly in South America,and Maria and Magdalena in Europe,mostly Greece.
Elly Jaine.

Well If Its On Tv And Produced By A Major Hollywood Director, Then It Must Be True!!!!

I just can't understand where did they take the DNA of Jesus to prove that those bones have the same DNA.

The didn't claim that they compared DNA from the bones to Jesus' DNA.

They claimed that the mitochondrial DNA of "Jesus" and "Mary" (hypothesis:Magdalene) were not related so it is possible they were married.

Anyway. I think it's all just a promotion of his forecomming documentary movie.
i wouldn't believe it untill i here more info from more reliable sources.

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The documentary was already on. Am I missing something or are you a time traveler?

And there was Sig Spot! :1orglaugh

hollywood.hollywood. though nice thoughts are shared.

Hollywood stunt intended to shake up the Christians. Call it Mel Gibson II.

Arg, stupid double post!

Nice to know you're in any way being objective.

I predict a christian mass suicide when all is revealed.

Good question. Even if they can get DNA from these bones, how are they going to compare that DNA to Jesus? I was not aware of any DNA that he left behind. Those bones could be anyone's.

It depends on the condition of the bones. If they can not get a proper dna sample, they can try to get a mitochondrial dna sample. It is not always possible to get any dna from bones.

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i watched this documentary and thought it was very interesting. of course no one is saying "we know with 100% certainty that these are the remains of Jesus and Mary and their family". it seemed that the evidence was pretty compelling and convincing as the mathematician was pointing out all the evidence pointing to the possibility of the ossuaries containing the bones of Jesus, mary, his brother and child and the mathematical probabilities. the circumstances alone and the archeological evidence add a lot of weight to the idea that it is a very strong possibility.

and who cares? it won't affect christianity at all. "faith" is exactly that... "Faith". otherwise religion would be celebrating "Fact". they will just argue that his soul left his body and thats what was wrote about in the gospels. besides, its been proven time and time again in studies that disproving the foundations of any belieft system where people dedicate their lives to, usually are strengthened by proof that its bullshit.. not weakened. look at seventh day adventists... they gave up everything and sat patiently waiting for the world to end on a very specific time and date... once it did not happen, they only grew stronger. its much easier for people to rationalize their behavior and decisions which have become who they are, and carry on, living with the comfort that it offers, than it is to suddenly lose those beliefs and the security they offer as well as all that you have devoted to it.

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So true, :(

I disagree in part with what your saying here. *If* it can be proven that the mortal remains of JC are still with us then it throws into disaray one of the fundamental tenents of Christianity in that JC bodily ascended to heaven after his resurection. Secondly, ( and probably more importantly ), it would give us a starting point to begin a more thourough and scientific investigation of the real man behind the myth.

However I would agree that there are allways going to be some that will choose to disregard any amount of evidence that calls their belifes and dogma's into question.

Jesus didn't die...