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DutchTeenCash 02-28-2007 11:09 AM

Q: do you scan userdata and content?

Nathan 02-28-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988110)
If youre so sure bout german porn laws - then were the Jugendschutz disclaimer? and the warning page? I seriously suggest you get a German lawyer to look into this and not go by the gut feeling.

The site is neither owned, nor hosted, by a german entity. I suggest you get your facts straight before you stir shit...

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988110)
Plus you know as well as I do that CCBILL EU will not even touch anything close to a 'we have no docs but theyre not on this server' statement.

Plus yes changes are being as we speak to impose EU laws on German processors. Theres a reason why some companies seek german processors and theres also a reason why the EU wants that changed.

Correct, CCBill EU would not touch a site with crappy 2257 disclaimers. We do not have a crappy 2257 disclaimer. We have a disclaimer which states the truth. You probably know as well as I do that CCBill EU _WILL_ touch a site which is owned by an EU entity but does not even HAVE a 2257 disclaimer! Removing the disclaimer if needed is an easy thing for us, because, as I said before, _WE_ do not require it! We have 2257 information currently for our US affiliates so they know that we _DO HAVE_ 2257 documentation for our amateurs!

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988110)
As for the PM post: hardcore is an issue in germany, it has to meet a lot of standards, warning pages, disclaimers, blanked out pics - if you took this time to set up the site, then Im wondering why you dunno this.

Again, the company is not located in germany, nor is it hosted there. But for your info, you might be interested to see this: http://foramateursonly.com/?f=2

100% censored version of the site with german so called "Face2Face" AVS system.

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988110)
And last, seriously, youre telling me the content thats non compliant is on a different server? You know that will take only 5 secs to check and no I wont but I sure hope thats true.

Yes it is, not sure how you would "take only 5 secs" to check to be honest, since YOU do not know for who we have docs and who we do not have docs for (especially since right NOW there is _noone_ on the site we do NOT have docs for!)... We have 4 servers currently. 2 In the US, 2 in the EU.

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988110)
In case you wonder: weve had german sites for over 5 yrs and decided to quit on the german market, after a long talk with our attorney, its complicated TOO complicated with the contradictions between german and EU laws.

Irrigardless I still wish you all the best in the world with your new site.

Good for you that you quit, you quit one HELL of a big market which can EASILY be served if you know how. You might want to talk to someone about how to do so, its not really THAT complicated.

Nathan 02-28-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11988149)
Q: do you scan userdata and content?

What do you mean by that exactly?

Big Red Machine 02-28-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 11985811)
I'll see what I can arrange Red ;)

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

DutchTeenCash 02-28-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 11988222)
The site is neither owned, nor hosted, by a german entity. I suggest you get your facts straight before you stir shit...

true its a US based host with content thats partially non 2257 compliant content thats impossible to check facts on - on a german processor with performers with underaged banned words

http://www.dutchteencash.com/post/boards/pinklol.jpg

dont worry bout us - weve made our cash long ago on the german market with the nice 3 mark 63 dialers

But hey no worries you might get away with it

Nathan 02-28-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11989519)
true its a US based host with content thats partially non 2257 compliant content thats impossible to check facts on - on a german processor with performers with underaged banned words

http://www.dutchteencash.com/post/boards/pinklol.jpg

dont worry bout us - weve made our cash long ago on the german market with the nice 3 mark 63 dialers

But hey no worries you might get away with it

There is no problem with hosting stuff in the US, a host is not liable for 2257 information, the site owner is. We have 2257 information for the stuff we need it, on top of that our amateurs, which are the producers, have 2257 information (obviously, since its themself), so there really is no problem here...

Sounds to me like you are pissed we had the idea for this site and not you... Its fully legit, we have thought this through, we have talked to lawyers and so on...

Thanks for pointing out that one amateur username... I'll get that changed...

Big Red Machine 02-28-2007 09:55 PM

Nathan is a Very Intelligent guy, he didn't decide to just throw this up. He took his time and looked at all the angles

nAtuRaLbEautY 03-01-2007 12:55 AM

looking good! best of luck with it!

DutchTeenCash 03-01-2007 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 11989889)
There is no problem with hosting stuff in the US, a host is not liable for 2257 information, the site owner is. We have 2257 information for the stuff we need it, on top of that our amateurs, which are the producers, have 2257 information (obviously, since its themself), so there really is no problem here...

Sounds to me like you are pissed we had the idea for this site and not you... Its fully legit, we have thought this through, we have talked to lawyers and so on...

Thanks for pointing out that one amateur username... I'll get that changed...

Im not pissed at all - the idea has been there for ages so have the many sites all over the web, nothing is unique anymore these days

Doesnt mean its not a good idea - its just the way its set up is bothersome

But lets wrap this up, all the best, Im sure youve got your ass covered

shekinah 03-01-2007 12:10 PM

Here's a good luck bump for you:)

TurboAngel 03-01-2007 12:13 PM

51???????

Big Red Machine 03-01-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 11994317)
51???????

Beat me to it, the all important Fiddy Spot :1orglaugh

Dirty D 03-01-2007 05:47 PM

Amateur Porn always was and always will be HOT

Good luck guys!

NinjaSteve 03-01-2007 06:29 PM

The site looks like an interesting concept. It's youtube meets porn + pays money.

Nathan 03-02-2007 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 11996875)
The site looks like an interesting concept. It's youtube meets porn + pays money.

That was the idea... + real people that the surfers can talk to and actually REACH in contrast to the generic pornstar/pornstarlet...

Calvinguy 03-02-2007 08:40 AM

I love the way eurobill force their clients to put their own parent company name (cybermaxx) on their sites: "...is owned and operated by CyberMaxx"

Why 03-02-2007 10:07 AM

i think the thumbnails on the site should be at least twice the size they are now. content sells. remember that!

Nathan 03-02-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 12000903)
i think the thumbnails on the site should be at least twice the size they are now. content sells. remember that!

Hi Why,

thanks for the feedback.. do you think bigger thumbs would increase the pageviews of the site, the free joins, or the sales?

And do you mean all thumbs, or just the ones on the subpages where they are smaller than on the frontpage. Or even the frontpage thumbs are too small?

Thanks!

Scotty.T 03-02-2007 12:06 PM

Nice idea. Similar to the TAC Network over here already, but on a set for set basis.

Big Red Machine 03-02-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dustman (Post 11996711)
Amateur Porn always was and always will be HOT

Good luck guys!

From the Mouth of a Phophet...:pimp
Thanks Dirty D :thumbsup

V_RocKs 03-02-2007 03:32 PM

Did DutchTeenCash wake up with sand in his vagina?

Major (Tom) 03-02-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dustman (Post 11996711)
Amateur Porn always was and always will be HOT

Good luck guys!

Quote of the day :)

thx bro
Duke

kylina_candy 03-03-2007 11:51 AM

Good luck hun

TurboAngel 03-03-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red Machine (Post 11996604)
Beat me to it, the all important Fiddy Spot :1orglaugh

Sorry.


:Oh crap

Vox 03-03-2007 12:34 PM

Great site Nathan, I feel like joining it myself.
Is there any way to set up campaign ID's? I just can't seem to find it in the control panel.

=Spencer= 03-03-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan
My biz partner in europe and I have been testing the system for the past few months and the initial results are great!

"Hi" from Europe... :)


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Originally Posted by Vox (Post 12007478)
Great site Nathan, I feel like joining it myself.
Is there any way to set up campaign ID's? I just can't seem to find it in the control panel.

You can't find them because they are currently not activated. We will correct that as soon as possible...

Nathan 03-05-2007 01:45 AM

Hey everyone...

I'm gone for 2 weeks for a holiday, will be online a lot but can not guarantee to be reachable... so if anyone needs something, get a hold of Duke or Spencer, they'll hook you up.

Thanks for all the kind words!

Looking forward to making lots of $$ with everyone in the coming months and years....

rounders 03-05-2007 02:27 AM

Good luck, everything seems great.

Big Red Machine 03-05-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by =Spencer= (Post 12008230)
"Hi" from Europe... :)




You can't find them because they are currently not activated. We will correct that as soon as possible...

:thumbsup Welcome to GFY Spencer :pimp

Tiffany Preston 03-05-2007 07:06 PM

WOW a novel idea :)

Big Red Machine 03-05-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiffany Preston (Post 12025282)
WOW a novel idea :)

Thanks Tiff :thumbsup
and Good Luck with your New Site :pimp

Snake Doctor 03-05-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 11978553)
interesting, however I think your pricing is a bit high... more or less from what I saw its going to cost $30 for 10 videos?
thats going to be a tough sell I believe..I'm sure there are various credit prices per video.. but why would a surfer spend that kind of money when they can get a paysite membership with access to way more video content for the same price?

Sites like southern charms charge $10 per video in some instances for thier models. If people are turned on by the performers and by that fact that it is true amateur content they'll pony up the dough.

This is very innovative and will do extremely well. I'm only pissed off that I didn't think of it first.

Alot of haters in this thread, bitching about 2257 when it's a european company that owns the site. Don't you guys have anything better to do?

=Spencer= 03-06-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red Machine (Post 12025247)
:thumbsup Welcome to GFY Spencer :pimp

Thank you :thumbsup

Big Red Machine 03-06-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12025547)
Sites like southern charms charge $10 per video in some instances for thier models. If people are turned on by the performers and by that fact that it is true amateur content they'll pony up the dough.

This is very innovative and will do extremely well. I'm only pissed off that I didn't think of it first.

Alot of haters in this thread, bitching about 2257 when it's a european company that owns the site. Don't you guys have anything better to do?

:thumbsup Thanks Lenny2
Yeah alot of Player Haters:pimp :1orglaugh

Nathan 03-06-2007 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2 (Post 12025547)
Sites like southern charms charge $10 per video in some instances for thier models. If people are turned on by the performers and by that fact that it is true amateur content they'll pony up the dough.

This is very innovative and will do extremely well. I'm only pissed off that I didn't think of it first.

Alot of haters in this thread, bitching about 2257 when it's a european company that owns the site. Don't you guys have anything better to do?


Hi Lenny!

Thanks for the kind words... and you are right, our pricing per video is nothing compared to per minute prices some people pay to chat with some cam girl... Of course, its a bit different since its pre-recorded, but it IS more hardcore too and it IS by far less expensive.

On top of all that, we are looking for ways to offer people that do not like to pay per-video other options to pay for content, without destroying the great ROI that is possible via the current system. More about that though once we have something...

Greatings from a small island somewhere in the pacific ocean ;)

Big Red Machine 03-07-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 12031221)
Greatings from a small island somewhere in the pacific ocean ;)

Dam I wish I was on a Island....nothing but snow in Jersey:disgust

Enjoy Nathan :thumbsup

Major (Tom) 04-28-2007 09:44 AM

This is doing verywell as an upsell. we will even skin it to your design. let me know what you need. im always here :)
duke

martinsc 04-28-2007 10:09 AM

looks great :thumbsup

wyldblyss 04-28-2007 06:07 PM

Nathan, the site looks great, and from what I know of true amateur porn lovers they are going to go crazy over this site. Those really into the 100% amateur niche can't get enough of this stuff.

Having said that.....I also know amateur performers, and the idea of making money doing something they can do at home and something they enjoy gives them the feeling of having their own company almost and many of them will really want to make a go of this and do it right to bring in some $$'s. I don't really think that downloading a model release and signing it, as well as providing copies of their ID's are a big deal to them. Yes, it may be a hassle, but honestly, once you start and work with the same performers on an ongoing basis, it just becomes routine.

Having this documentation will make the US webmasters feel "safer" Even though you don't need it legally where you reside, U.S. webmasters are going to feel much safer promoting sites that are 2257 compliant.

Being compliant also gives you a measure of protection, because you don't want fat old Uncle Bob suing the crap out of you or causing you problems because he had no idea that the chick that picked him up was going to post the video they made together all over the net.

It is something to think about, yes, I understand that some videos you have will not be useable, but I believe you will never have a shortage of people willing to provide you with the documentation you need in order to make some $$'s doing what they enjoy.

As for the person saying that they believed it was pricey, for some, yes it may be, but those that are very into this niche, the pricing will not stop them, especially when they get that all important personal touch from the performers.

Best of luck to you :)

Nathan 04-30-2007 12:37 AM

We are always looking for sources for new performers! Get ahold of me on skype (fthylmann) or ICQ 1889711 if you can provide us with new amateurs that want to release content.

We of course pay you for them!


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