That's interesting shit, great job :thumbsup

Now i see why duke was taking up for him.

ya...old thread but reading through it speaks volumes doesnt it.

A year before he became Mr. Porn Tycoon he didn't even know what size thumbs to use on his sites. Now he knows everything except how to properly evade taxes in Germany.

Amazing.

wow ……..

he is just a glorified script kiddie and now he has been exposed for the fraud he is. managing partner? more like manager. :1orglaugh

very nice site, i am excited

I get confused - Fabian had started and sold Nats long before this right?

Someone needs to do a timeline.

Date: 02-26-2007

Later that same year...

Having failed on this project and not knowing anything about running a program or sites, Fabian gets a loan for several hundred million dollars, buys Mansef, renames it Manwin and creates the largest online porn empire ever. He then instantly knows everything there is to know about the industry and magically learned how to take an online property and increase its profits at least by 50% within a few months of him taking it over.

Sounds legit.

Lol,i actually wanted to bump this thread long time ago as a proof how Nathan is nothing more then just a pretty face at manwin,not an owner.Wondering will someone bump thread where he bragged how he understood taxes good.

Pretty face? - Jesus, have been in prison as well?

"Pretty face" is synonym for someone who is on position just due his looks or some other reason which is not his intelligence.

Ahhh, 2007, the memories. :upsidedow

I know....

It was as close to a joke as I get after 10 beers at 1am on Christmas morning.

start - you are a drunken homo - end

there is your timeline.

True....

That's how it happens. Next thing you know you're blowing 1/2 of boyz town for enough rock to last you for the next 3 days.

I like old threads.

like this one

100 mergers

It MAY BE for sale. I guess that worked out alright.

I offer $0 and no cents.

Amazing, yessignals.com lasted longer than foramateursonly.com

I invested $X for startup costs. He got offered a position somewhere else & asked if he could buy me out. He did. I guess the other position was manwin, of which I am clearly not involved in. This partnership with he & I put a strain on my relationship with John & Charlie from TMM who are also my friends. The buyout was the right choice. If you have anymore questions Mike hit me up.
Duke

And there you go guys!

Ex-programmer of NATS and owner of a failed porn site.

A year later he had over 100 million dollars "loaned" to him in the middle of the worst worldwide economic crisis of our lifetimes when banks were holding tight to loans and getting bailed out themselves to keep from going under.

And people wonder why the authorities all over the world are salivating to get to Manwin.

:pimp:pimp:pimp

Speaking of scammers . . .

actually that wasnt really aimed much at you reading that thread and the timeline that goes with it speaks volumes

he got offered a position huh....since when does the buyer get offered a "position" starting to "hear" the volumes I speak of?

he said he got an offer & it was more than what we could provide or help with. That was it.
I considered the project a loss anyway, so seeing a profit on my investment was an angel on top of the xmas tree.
Best,
Duke

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." - Wizard of Oz

Very interesting in the timeline of how things played out.......

So he needed you as a partner to create a new program For Amateurs Only. He wanted you to provide the content? Then he got a better offer and you weren't big enough to handle it? Probably got his 300 million and bought xtube about this time and duke was no longer needed. :Oh crap

And I'd say lucky for Duke because he isn't the one facing jail time right now while every penny he has made is scrutinized.

no this was user submitted stuff. the site never stood a chance
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Wait, WHEN exactly did he get offered the other position and bought you out? It's truly your belief that this was the Manwin "position"?!?

And how did your partnership with Fabian put a strain on your relationship with John and Charlie? I thought Fabian left them on good terms, no?

very likely nathan did not leave on good terms. I think John was always a little jealous of Nathan because Nathan created NATS (Nathan's Affiliate Tracking Software) Not JATS :1orglaugh

When Nathan decided to not partner with Duke it was still years before the money from Fortress. No one talks much about Nathans first investors (after Duke but before Fortress). From my research it looks like $tandaMan was his first money partner and they were involved together with buying iwantu and xtube.

You guys should look into Porngraph. If you want to figure out possible where some of the money came from.

The GFY Detective squad is on the job:thumbsup

I heard porngraph was owned by john and it had spyware on it but john said he had sold it before that happened but the whois still showed him as the owner. that is what i have read here. so did nathan do the programming for porngraph. I read he did the programming for sextracker and i read that also had spyware. is that right ?