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DutchTeenCash 02-28-2007 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11987999)
in your very honest, ethical, "stand up guy" opinion - is it legal to allow card holders to use epassporte for facilitating illegal online gaming transactions? if so, how might this affect epassporte users in the future if the government takes action against you?
do you really think youre gonna get a statement?

this is something that will keep attorneys all over the world busy for the next decades, theres no way youll get a reply to this

fr0gman 02-28-2007 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 11988035)
one word: paranoia.

But, you have taken the course of action that is available to everyone if they dont want to use epass: you have chosen to not do any business with them.

Thanks for the statement Michael - We support you guys 100% :thumbsup
Paranoia?

Do you read this board... or any others?

People have had money stolen from their accounts and like many others I though it was stupidity/weak password/etc.. until it happened to a person that I know who has not used the account for ANY sponsor payments and has (had) a secure password.

It is not paranoia when the evidence points to epass facilitating theft either through direct actions or through weak security.

In a free world you have the option of securing your money any way that you see fit. You can trust it ti epass or you can put it in a paper bag. In my opinion trusting it to epass is as secure as puttin your wallet in the toe of your shoe on the beach. It will onlt be a matter of time before someone steals your shoes AND your money.

ffmihai 02-28-2007 10:59 AM
thanks for this thread!

TinyTim 02-28-2007 11:00 AM
epassporte rules

Juicy D. Links 02-28-2007 11:01 AM
Yo
Since I am a epassporte model of the month I want a epassporte leather jacket

Second

I need my atm withdraw raised I had it done on second acct but you have my records on file for second acct ie my driver license utiltry bill and the other stuff is there anyway to expedite atn limit without filling that form again I am a reiging epassporte model and damb good looking

thehand 02-28-2007 11:02 AM
Michael,
Thank you for the frank and thorough explanation. Good luck with the expansion.

Juicy D. Links 02-28-2007 11:04 AM
Mike get your shit out of BOA they are cockaroaches I think they are bible thumpers

Open a acct elsewhere BOA fucked me already I hope there ceo gets gonnorea

Agent 488 02-28-2007 11:04 AM
good to see epass has better lawyers than all the other e-wallet companies that bailed on the market under the new laws.

Juicy D. Links 02-28-2007 11:06 AM
Fyi I am still waiting for cable guy to show up he has 55 min left or else I will reign holy hell on the cockaroches

Dollarmansteve 02-28-2007 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr0gman (Post 11988090)
Paranoia?

Do you read this board... or any others?

People have had money stolen from their accounts and like many others I though it was stupidity/weak password/etc.. until it happened to a person that I know who has not used the account for ANY sponsor payments and has (had) a secure password.

It is not paranoia when the evidence points to epass facilitating theft either through direct actions or through weak security.

In a free world you have the option of securing your money any way that you see fit. You can trust it ti epass or you can put it in a paper bag. In my opinion trusting it to epass is as secure as puttin your wallet in the toe of your shoe on the beach. It will onlt be a matter of time before someone steals your shoes AND your money.
Ya man Im a n00b and I dont know anyone in this industry. Like I said - you've made your free world choice - and I still think you're being paranoid.

I can understand your situation and I tihnk it's kinda like this: Let's say there is a huge increase in the number of people getting hit by buses.. let's say from 1 / 100000 street crossings to 1 / 20000. You think "Hey, that's ok, the chances I'll get hit by a bus are still crazy low". Then your best friend gets hit by a bus and you say "Wow, Im never crossing the street again, it's too risky".

Pleasurepays 02-28-2007 11:09 AM
50 desperate people ignoring a long history of general incompetence and risk of YOUR money.

Juicy D. Links 02-28-2007 11:10 AM
Is there anyway to get a epass card cobranded with face on it?

DutchTeenCash 02-28-2007 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 11988124)
Mike get your shit out of BOA they are cockaroaches I think they are bible thumpers

Open a acct elsewhere BOA fucked me already I hope there ceo gets gonnorea
exactly

get a bank that says OK when you tell them anal midget gay porn - 10 yrs or not youll get fucked up one day, many of us were.

dready 02-28-2007 11:15 AM
I personally would feel better knowing some additional layers of security were being considered, and a statement about ePassporte's position on the use of their service for online gambling.

fr0gman 02-28-2007 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dready (Post 11988176)
I personally would feel better knowing some additional layers of security were being considered, and a statement about ePassporte's position on the use of their service for online gambling.

Here's the deal.. If they mention more security that would mean that their security was lax and open them to liability.

You will hear no gambling talk nor security talk... you will only hear "ear candy".

UP IN Smoke 02-28-2007 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr0gman (Post 11987885)
This guy is full of shit!

If what all of you sheep were waiting on was an "official statement" so that you can breathe a sign of relief and then place your money right back in the purse of the thief then go right ahead.

Do you think that epass would come out and publicly state that they were hacked or worse that they have an employee feeding logins to his cousin in Taiwan? Of course not. They are gong to blow smoke up your ass and lead you down the primrose path long enough for you to be lulled into believing that the problems were not theirs.

I foretold the demise of MyVirTualCard/Paymonde long before they stole your money and ran and I am telling you that if you put your money in epass you are inviting the same problems that came from MVC/Paymonde = YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

Let me be the first to say: "I will no longer do business with epass. I will not send money nor will I receive money from people that use epass. I cannot in good conscious support a company that facilitates fraud."
I agree with you man. Good post!

shunga 02-28-2007 11:33 AM
Thanks for the update on these issues. It's appreciated.

Juicy D. Links 02-28-2007 11:37 AM
Well for the record

If my money ever gets "unavailable" I will hire dog the bounty hunter and then cut peoples peniss off and put em on a skewer and make make shish kabobs

JMM 02-28-2007 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 11988293)
Well for the record

If my money ever gets "unavailable" I will hire dog the bounty hunter and then cut peoples peniss off and put em on a skewer and make make shish kabobs
A. You will have to wait until Dog gets out of prison in Mexico.

B. Remind me never to have lunch at your house.

Forest 02-28-2007 11:50 AM
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Quote:
Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 11988059)
Epassporte cannot be responsible for actions of usa users.
tell that to the neteller guys

mattz 02-28-2007 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr0gman (Post 11987701)
Does this mean that you are going to refund the peopel that got ripped off because of your shitty security?

I can tell you that I will never more a single nickel through epass until you demonstrate that you have some greater level of concern for your customers. Contact me on ICQ and I will give you the details of a theft that was handled very poorly.
lol maybe idiots should reply to dumb spoofed emails with their password

themonk 02-28-2007 11:56 AM
yeah nice news

billybathgate 02-28-2007 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM (Post 11988335)
A. You will have to wait until Dog gets out of prison in Mexico.

B. Remind me never to have lunch at your house.
:upsidedow

DamageX 02-28-2007 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 11988126)
good to see epass has better lawyers than all the other e-wallet companies that bailed on the market under the new laws.
Newsflash: THEY DON'T. More money = better lawyers. Epassporte is a piss in the ocean compared to Neteller.

kektex 02-28-2007 12:02 PM
I`m not so worried about the support and security issues as I am with the gambling stuff.
After what happened with Neteller will epassporte escape unscathed?

Forest 02-28-2007 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11988405)
Newsflash: THEY DON'T. More money = better lawyers. Epassporte is a piss in the ocean compared to Neteller.
neteller did somehting like 7.5 BILLION dollars in online transfers on 05

i have to agree i dont think epass is anywhere close to that

Spunky 02-28-2007 12:05 PM
Although I appreciate your help with the past I do believe the security has to be priority #1.I hope I don't have a repeat of the last time ;)

Agent 488 02-28-2007 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11988405)
Newsflash: THEY DON'T. More money = better lawyers. Epassporte is a piss in the ocean compared to Neteller.
guess i should have used the sarcasm tags. :winkwink:

jscott 02-28-2007 12:05 PM
like many others said, thanks for responding to customer concerns finally, and admitting to poor customer support

most times the companies say "well i never got that email" or "icq has been acting up" etc etc

Kimo 02-28-2007 12:11 PM
i am still worried about epass participating in gambling transactions

DaddyMustang 02-28-2007 12:20 PM
it was the time for this...though the number of rumors will never end...even if you have a good service, thats the way it goes

TeenCat 02-28-2007 12:23 PM
thank you epass, im always on your side! and f*ck all the stupid brains with "two years old child hackable passwords"

baddog 02-28-2007 12:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr0gman (Post 11987701)
Does this mean that you are going to refund the peopel that got ripped off because of your shitty security?

I can tell you that I will never more a single nickel through epass until you demonstrate that you have some greater level of concern for your customers. Contact me on ICQ and I will give you the details of a theft that was handled very poorly.
I fail to see how a compromised password would fall under epassporte's "shitty security."

I have seen the stupid passwords people use to protect root access to their servers, I can only imagine how simple their epass passwords might be.

I would like to address the illegal activities question though.

Does epass consider online gambling transactions illegal?

DamageX 02-28-2007 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11988571)
I would like to address the illegal activities question though.

Does epass consider online gambling transactions illegal?
Apparently they don't, since they keep doing business with online casinos. Which is why they will end up getting a stiff cock up their ass, no lube involved.

Porko 02-28-2007 12:40 PM
Michael Rules

baddog 02-28-2007 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 11987748)
Michael, they are lucky to have you on their team. Thanks for the thread.
While I agree it is a good thing they have some board presence, it isn't like he constructed that post. :2 cents:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 11987953)
Tell BofA you make your money from porn and see how fast your account gets closed... BofA isn't a good choice of banks...:pimp
BofA is a great bank. Why you feel the need to brag to them that you are involved in adult is beyond me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterchief (Post 11987968)
Anyone using Bank of America in the first place in the biz has bigger problems if you ask me.
Who asked you? I have been using them since before I got into adult, and have opened multiple business accounts with them in the last couple of years, all with zero fees, and zero issues that were not resolved by walking into my local branch and sitting down with them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 11987976)
Is ePassporte going to stop gambling stuff because if not the US gov is going to come down very hard.
Quoted for truth.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BB-Rick (Post 11987981)
Been with BOA as a business account holder for almost 10 years now, and never had a problem with them.

Do I tell them what I do, fuck no, that's none of their concern.. They do their business, I do mine.
Precisely.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 11988059)
Epassporte cannot be responsible for actions of usa users.
They had better become responsible to US law if you want to be able to continue using them.

baddog 02-28-2007 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kektex (Post 11988423)
I`m not so worried about the support and security issues as I am with the gambling stuff.
After what happened with Neteller will epassporte escape unscathed?
Not a chance. Don't leave more there than you can afford to lose. :2 cents:

okdesign 02-28-2007 12:53 PM
ePassporte rocks! :thumbsup

dodger21 02-28-2007 01:01 PM
i dont understand why anyone even deals with this piece of shit company. i wouldnt trust them with a nickel

BitAudioVideo 02-28-2007 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BB-Rick (Post 11987958)
We sent our wire to Epass on Monday via BOA & it arrived on Tuesday with no problems.
how the fuck?? it ALWAYS takes me 8-10 days from when i send a wire for it to show up

it drives me up a fucking wall!


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