I just got it too! :upsidedow

Is it me or does this sound like CCBill was just blamed for the problem?

" an error has been found in the tracking system".... " give us time to be sure the CCBill tracking system works 100%"

I wouldn't be happy if I was CCBill and the problem was caused by ashcash. Ashcash never once says they were the cause of the problem and from the way I read it it sounds like they putting the blame on CCBill.

It kinda does read that way.

It seems not to be CCbill, I am being told that they are being passed a bogus ID that is over riding thier system. And until setting up the default Nats join page, we had 0 issue with CCBill, so I tend to believe them...

Just to be clear to everyone in this thread, the CCBill affiliate system has tracked and continues to track clicks/signups accurately, when used correctly without specific outside influences or manipulation

ok so then you blamming NATS ?

God dude, take some responsibility. It is your fault, not CCBill's and not NATS.

That last bit makes me nervous, and not just about ashcash. :Oh crap

That was a very polite way to say that some "fair" programmer was clueless on how things work.

Either that, or they did know how it worked and, well you know the rest.. :)

Glad to see it resolved at least.

Word... So many hotter chicks out there... Why push one that doesn't want to play ball?

Nice quotes from mike in this thread, some conflict?

"I don't own the program, and don't make anything from it."
"and Yes, Ashcash.net will be AdultDimensions.com soon..."
"All webmasters are getting credit for all sales and rebills..."
"Im looking at CCBill right now... nothing wrong with sales... sales are great..
rebills are even better"
"An error has been found in the tracking system"

Ok, a guy who knows the ins and outs of web browsers, cookies and so on....
A guy who writes Internet Eraser program, made to do a FEW of the Following

:: Prevents Sites from improperly changing your Home Page!
:: Erases Windows' secret index.dat file
:: Erases 'autocomplete' site addresses
:: Erases Windows Temp Directories
:: Erases Recent Files List
:: Erases My Documents Files (if you want to)
:: Erases Recycle Bin
:: Erases Browser Cache Files
:: Erases Browser Cookies
:: Erases Browser Favorites (if you want to)
:: Erases Browser History Logs
:: Erases User Selected Directories
:: Overwrites Any Files You Specify with Random Data - Then Deletes Them!
:: Frees space on your Hard Drive
:: Makes your PC run faster!
:: Runs As Often as You Specify - Automatically
:: Uninstall and Reinstall in Seconds

Gets the Setup wrong? No way......
Or a Program that Only pays out with ccbill, never logs in to make sure everything is running correct Since December 06??
How about Testing the Links when the New System went in place? Watching affiliate payout in ccbill for a few days to make sure everything was working ok?
I have heard from to many people that sales dropped off to almost nothing, and the mostly say about the same time frame......

But, during all this, a simple easy fix was found. Anyone switching from ccbill to NATS, just remember to keep everything separate, run 2 different touring systems with different signup forms.
ccbill code should never see nats code, and nats code should never see ccbill code.....
sitename.com/ccbill -- tour -- signup form
sitename.com/nats -- tour signup form (different from the one above)
I am sure there are more ways to keep everything Tracking correctly, and one would think a guy with your credentials would know this.


How many people are going to even bother with the 1.5 cents
How long does a person rebill?

Ok it feels like a dead horse now.......

Just a couple of things
Karma -- Birds of a Feather --

wow, if this isn't a someone busted for shaving I sure don't know what is folks

Wow!!!

Doesn't look like a "system error". This is no doubt a deliberate act.

Who's nats ref code is this on the join page anyway?

I'd like to know who's getting all the sales.

<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content="0;URL=http://ab.adultdimensions.com/signup/signup.php?nats=MDowOjE&step=2">

considering that adultdimensions.com isn't even up, I would say the owner is going to get all those sales

Not even close, but you'll see tomorrow... what really happened will be revealed tomorrow.

Man you just won't stop.. lmao...

Nats and CCBill payouts have nothing to do with each other...

The Nats code in the refresh does absolutly nothing... :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh Another teaser to get us excited. :1orglaugh

just wanted to bump this thread - fucking pisses me off that i now have to go through umpteen pages to remove links to this scamming sponsor!

This may serve as a wake-up call to other programs.

While I know Ashley Brookes isn't the biggest solo girl out there these days, she still has a big following. She has tens of thousands of old links up that will never die. I can't fathom that she isn't bringing in atleast a couple sales a day.

With that said, are you saying that NO ONE noticed that an affiliate never sent a sale for nearly 3 months? That the fact that you had no expenses related to affiliate payouts for that time period didn't raise a red flag? That guys who sent 10-20 sales a month were sending 0? I'm sorry, I refuse to believe someone who has been in the industry that long would overlook something like that on accident.

So my conclusion is that someone was shaving. I don't know who runs her site, who sets up her links, or who even owns it. But someone was stealing from affiliates plain and simple. For that, I will blacklist her site and any sites associated with hers (or in the same program) as hers. I would suggest other webmasters who care about the integrity of their clicks to do the same.

This is exactly my thoughts!

You can still promote her and guess what, the join links give credit. http://www.nikkinevada.com/nikkinevada1.php Only thing is they haven't updated the member's area for 4 years, so don't count on any rebills :1orglaugh

really disappointed in CCBILL and NATS. what went on here is obvious. how CCBILL works, how NATS works, cookies, shmookies, and everything else - irrelevant. the truth is you had a program that was doing a certain number of affiliate driven sales for a long period of time and then that changed drastically and the program owners did nothing about it - just kept taking what they knew didn't belong to them.

Well how can you blame ccbill? I mean, when the program owner changes the prejoin page for example to Epoch, you won't get credit either...It's just Mike69 who fucked it up, and who is scamming ppl...

Ashcash--->scammers
besides that, expect that you need to change your links after 3 months anyway, because that girl with attitude will move to the next program anyway...

samp!!!!!!!!!

exactly, ccbill has nothing to do with it, good example, doesn't anybody monitor their shit anymore?

mike is a shady character, why did he get fired from adult.com? partner payouts went to zero for the past 6 months and he is trying to play dumb and say he had no idea there was a problem?

I hear ya. Just a pain to pull all the links you've put up, especially if some pages had good traffic.

bump so everyone knows they are cheaters

Wow a few minute fix, and it was just NOW done in the last few hours..

Take out the refresh ........ wow so easy


and dont play, it is complicated, thing 2 do...

If you say something like that, I will tell them how to see past the BS...

Bump for the word from Mike69, it was over 24 hours ago!

150 shaving programs

Is there a problem w/ CCBILL?

I did just get a payment through them.

Far from it...

What ever made you think I got fired from Adult.com??

I leaving Adult.com was my choice.... for good or bad, it was still mine.

You should have recieved an email on it...

Please check your email, your due more money...

People see the Light!

From your thread

I see no "surprise" here, just what we thought you would hide behind.
Whoops, bad install my bad!

Bump, so everyone knows ashcash sucks, and cheats

bump for dishonest webmasters!!!!!!!!!

remember to remove those ashcash links people - the time spent removing them will be well worth it.

Congrats to all the winners! :1orglaugh