Far from the most fucked image ever. Ogrish.com had the most fucked up pics ever, before it turned into some wannabe youtube bullshit.

that is powerful....we shd start a fund....to help out africa...

Some of the best photographs ever taken are of a similar nature. Vietcong guy being executed, Tianamen Square, vietnamese naked young girl burned by napalm, etc.

I'm pretty sure this exact photo was referenced in House of Leaves. Great mind-fuck book if you've never read it.

People who survive fires while their loved ones burned say the same thing..

Sure theres something he could have done, but he was warned not to touch the famine victims because he could die from disease..

Do you think firefighters are told to blindly run into fires if theres ANY chance they could survive ?

Its easy to pass judgement sitting here , but we DONT know the whole story , sure you can have an opinion but i certainly hope your rational enough to understand where are others with different opinions.

Have you ever seen the disease's the people there have ? worms growing out of your body and stuff, ebola , flesh eating shit , its scary stuff, and if you were right there in the midst of it, the last thing you want to be doing is touching an obviously sick person. You would then have to be quarantined and treated. the doctors there wear gloves for good reason. i doubt they would be running up to save the child either without protective gloves and stuff.

But like i said im not disagreeig with you that in the scenario you are likely envisioning that this guy would have to be a real asshole.

Theres lots of factors we dont know..

From the picture it appears the dude is alone wandering around till he spot a child dying and does nothing.

Thats highly unlikely. Whats more likely is he is in a vehicle with a security team and other journalists, who are touring the food camps. they are likely told rerpeatedly by the security NOT to touch the famine victims.. they are also likely very familiar and are told stories of other journalists who didnt heed such advice and ended up with worms growing out of their face and stuff..

Its also very likely that with the very few amount of doctors per person that they prob would not try to save her.. In scenarios when there are more victims than doctors , they try to save those who stand the most chance of surviving not those in most need of attention..

But i suppose its all relative.. you know children just like her are dying yet you are doing the same thing.. nothing.. You talk about it with your friends but you arent there saving them.

But could you have ever even cared enough to get on a plane and document what is happening in Africa in the first place?

that pic is intense on a bunch of levels. just intense.

thats done it, I am dead set in tears. :(

Stop being rational. Let people hate the evil man, it makes them feel better about themselves.

:bowdown I would have to say that this right here is the answer to all our probs. Yes a sweeping statement, but a well thought about one. Smokey, I say this to few, but you are very well rounded in your knowledge and beleifs, I can relate to them alot. Understanding, Enlightenment and Truth is most of what I hear come from your mouth-or-whatever. Respect buddy.:thumbsup All our problems cannot be solved overnight, it would only throw us into chaos of the opposite nature, we must coach, educate with control, and respond accordingly. Extremities are the one thing we are supposed to be combating, but all that seems to be happening is flip flop flip flop. No balance.

The picture is very scary i might say.I`ve posted on another thread that the world isn`t fair,now you understand what I`m saying ?

:thumbsup

I bet if you were a photographer /journalist in africa and asked a dcotor what they would do if they were a photographer/journalist in the same situation, they would prob say the same thing.. You could drive around for 10 years straight picking up starving children about to be picked off by vultures and not put a dent in the problem (if you didnt die of disease first ) , but a picture of one can make a much bigger difference.

Its sort of ironic that many people can't see the correlation between that photo and the news reporters during hurricane katrina.. flying in air conditioned choppers to do interviews while people died inside the stadium and in hospitals. in terms of numbers its even more suprising , in africa the death from starvation is enormous , so its easy to see how little your intervention would help.. whereas during katrina , any of those reporters could have said " you know what , this story isn't important. saving people is, lets go save people"

USA is doing the least :)

Per GDP:
#1 Denmark: $8.23 per $1,000 of GDP
#2 Luxembourg: $7.57 per $1,000 of GDP
#3 Netherlands: $6.93 per $1,000 of GDP
#4 Norway: $5.60 per $1,000 of GDP
#5 Sweden: $4.91 per $1,000 of GDP
#6 United Kingdom: $3.69 per $1,000 of GDP
#7 Ireland: $3.31 per $1,000 of GDP
#8 Lesotho: $3.20 per $1,000 of GDP
#9 Belgium: $3.06 per $1,000 of GDP
#10 Switzerland: $3.06 per $1,000 of GDP
#11 France: $2.70 per $1,000 of GDP
#12 Canada: $2.65 per $1,000 of GDP
#13 Austria: $2.35 per $1,000 of GDP
#14 Germany: $2.06 per $1,000 of GDP
#15 Finland: $2.03 per $1,000 of GDP
#16 Japan: $1.93 per $1,000 of GDP
#17 Portugal: $1.61 per $1,000 of GDP
#18 Australia: $1.42 per $1,000 of GDP
#19 Spain: $1.34 per $1,000 of GDP
#20 New Zealand: $1.00 per $1,000 of GDP
#21 Korea, South: $0.62 per $1,000 of GDP
#22 Italy: $0.60 per $1,000 of GDP
#23 United States: $0.59 per $1,000 of GDP

Per capita:
#1 Luxembourg: $496.59 per capita
#2 Denmark: $366.93 per capita
#3 Norway: $303.63 per capita
#4 Netherlands: $242.55 per capita
#5 Sweden: $188.54 per capita
#6 Ireland: $149.43 per capita
#7 Switzerland: $146.20 per capita
#8 United Kingdom: $130.34 per capita
#9 Belgium: $103.29 per capita
#10 France: $88.71 per capita
#11 Austria: $83.12 per capita
#12 Canada: $78.55 per capita
#13 Finland: $72.45 per capita
#14 Japan: $69.82 per capita
#15 Germany: $67.94 per capita
#16 Australia: $44.12 per capita
#17 Spain: $32.92 per capita
#18 Portugal: $25.55 per capita
#19 New Zealand: $24.46 per capita
#20 United States: $23.12 per capita
#21 Italy: $17.20 per capita
#22 Korea, South: $8.67 per capita
#23 Lesotho: $2.18 per capita

Total:
#1 Japan: $8,900,000,000.00
#2 United Kingdom: $7,900,000,000.00
#3 United States: $6,900,000,000.00
#4 Germany: $5,600,000,000.00
#5 France: $5,400,000,000.00
#6 Netherlands: $4,000,000,000.00
#7 Canada: $2,600,000,000.00
#8 Denmark: $2,000,000,000.00
#9 Sweden: $1,700,000,000.00
#10 Norway: $1,400,000,000.00
#11 Spain: $1,330,000,000.00
#12 Switzerland: $1,100,000,000.00
#13 Belgium: $1,072,000,000.00
#14 Italy: $1,000,000,000.00
#15 Australia: $894,000,000.00
#16 Austria: $681,000,000.00
#17 Ireland: $607,000,000.00
#18 Korea, South: $423,300,000.00
#19 Finland: $379,000,000.00
#20 Portugal: $271,000,000.00
#21 Luxembourg: $235,590,000.00
#22 New Zealand: $99,700,000.00
#23 Lesotho: $4,400,000.00

it fucked up.

"least" is a bit harsh, considering they're in the top 25.

Ok, least of the rich industrial countries. I don't expect Rwanda to give any aid :)

It just pisses me off to hear Americans talk about how much USA gives. They acctually belive in their own lies...

For every 1 you might save...

? 2 more are borne.

samp!!!!!!!!!

Rational thinking has no place on GFY.

You must react on pure emotion at all times, particularly negative emotion.

this is old I've seen this before and read the article that came with it ... the photographer that took this shot was never the same after ...

europeans and americans ruined africa and destroyed their homeland.

I don't understand what you people expected this guy to do to save this child. She was obviously on death's door. Was he supposed to pull a magic Big Mac out of his pocket and ram it down her throat, healing her instantly?

He got rid of the bird, what more could he do? Was he supposed to stop and save all the other thousands of starving people as he walked around Africa?...using the miracle healing power of his magic bag of Big Macs? You can't just pick these people up and brush the dust off of them and tell them they're going to be OK now.

There was no food and clean water for these people. That is what killed them. Not some guy with a camera that took a picture of one of them.

All of you have seen the picture. Why aren't you boarding a plane to Africa right now to save these people? You're just as guilty as this guy was.

What's amusing is that some of you act as though the vulture was a tiger or something. It doesn't attack, it waits for animals/people to die.

That's the very nature of a vulture, it eats dead animals. The child was never in any danger from the thing.

That's why the picture is so powerful. The bird is waiting for the child to die. Yet the entire focus is how the guy waited 20 minutes to stop the bird from.... what? Waiting longer?

It's a fuckedup world, this pic makes me sad and angry at the same time...

First off Per GDP is BS when you look at the amount of money total. lol did you even look at the totals before you posted? The US is far from last.

#1 Japan: $8,900,000,000.00
#2 United Kingdom: $7,900,000,000.00
#3 United States: $6,900,000,000.00

Second, the US is busy being world police, so it's time for someone else to step up to the plate and take something like this on. Why should the US have to lead everything?

If anyone should be stepping up to the plate, it should be the Brits,the Chinese or Europe as a whole. After all the the Sudan was part of the British colonial empire, so they have a lot to do with what has happened in the Sudan over the last century. That and a genocide should touch a nerve with most Europeans being what happened during ww2.

As of today it's the Chinese whom are the top dogs of that country, so why does the world not pressure them to do something about the problem? Where are all those people, that protested against the US for going to war? Why are they not protesting the Chinese and the Olympics because of the issues in Sudan?

Or is it only popular to hate on the US?

Actually we are #3 when you look at the total. :winkwink:

Having kids myself, it makes me more sensitive to things like this.

Very sad/disturbing :(

post the full note, asswipe

"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky"

but sure, as the "porno jew" you were just interested in the money part

perspective...

I see ?GDP? and ?per capita? is to much for you too understand. I would love to explain it to you, but I am afraid you wouldn?t understand it anyway. After all you have to have at least a high school degree to understand such a complex concepts as ?GDP? and ?per capita?.

:Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap

I hate rich people :Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap


j/k

but still its so depessing.

Well sorry but now your creating "straw men"


In this case there clearly was no immediate danger to Carter as there would be in a scenario where there would be other hazzards such as fire. The very least he could have done would have been to chase the vulture away and try to communicate with the girl to give her some moral support.

From Carters own testimony "nothing" is exactly what he does.

Well thats just speculation. I can only base my opinion on Carters actions from the available evidence where it's very clear that Carter took on the role of passive observer rather than choose to become involved in the little girls plight in any way.

Sorry my friend but thats one guilt trip you have no right to lay on me.

For all of you making comments that the guy that took the picture should've saved him, what about the parents of the child ??? where the fuck are they ??

AND to go more into it, if you didn't have enough food to feed yourselves, why would you bring a child into the same conditions ??? They're starving, but they muster up the energy to fuck and not pull out.

You can jump on me and say it's their belief or make up whatever excuses you'd like for those people, but I think it's just wrong to keep fucking and having kids only to have many of them end up like the child in the picture.

You call that the least? You are nothing but a fucking anti-American piece of shit. Show me your source by the way.

If he chose to save one child..he would then probably feel compelled to help all the starving children he was witnessing or expected to .. that was not the only starving child in the village he took photographs of.. its just the one that got published.

No , im pointing out an alternative scenario that is just as good as the guesses you have made , but alot more realistic.

umm typhoid , ebola , worms , dyptheria, thse are IMMEDIATE dangers that cause DEATH , thats why they warn them NOT TO TOUCH FAMINE VICTIMS
we dont know he didnt do that.. you assume he didnt ,

paraquoting someone doesnt make it fact..


sort of like you..


If someone tells you " dont touch that person , you will get sick and die and your not helping them.. would you help them ?

I didnt lay any guilt trip on you. you did it yourself.. You called someone who helped by letting us all know the problem an "utter bastard" yet you haven't done ANYTHING and your somehow better than him ? I think people in glass houses , shouldn't throw stones..

Lets list all the things carter did to save starving african children.

#1 ) he brought the images of suffering into the homes of america, undoubtedly helping spurn thousand of people to donate money, if thepicture is right or wrong is a moot point as you HAVE to agree his picture has HELPED

Now you list all the things you have done to save starving african children.

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It sure didnt help Carter when he decided to gas himself to death because of it.

here is a great way to help...remove all their weapons and force sterilization....

Yet another idiot who can?t comprehend concept of ?GDP? and ?per capita?.

I will explain so that even a monkey like you can understand:

We have $1000 each you and me. There are poor people who need money/food. I give $500. You give $1. There are still poor people in need.
IF you also give $500 there are no more poor people.

I told you not to reply in the same thread where I am. For your own good. I can make you look stupid with just one word.

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