every censor is bad, anyway its googles decission and i dont think "somebody told them to stop the account" :2 cents:

No I didn't ask that. I asked what the legislation and regulations that come from this global warming movement does to affect YOUR life.

As you yourself claim, it's 1 set of data that is being interpreted two different ways by two different groups of people. That is not a 'lie' it's a disagreement. My question to those people was - what does anyone stand to gain by saying that we should do nothing about pollution and harmful emissions?

I wrote all of that myself, I realize it's tough to understand that someone is capable of digesting a variety of sources of information and generating their own set of thoughts and beliefs as a result. You should try it.

The Al Gore agenda is to help the US and others reduce CO2 emissions and other forms of pollution. Do you disagree that this is a good course of action? If so, why?

It's easy to poke holes in the theories/plans of others and offer no solution. So far that's all I am seeing here.

It harkens back to the debate over the Iraq war. The US Democrats (who happen to reside in about the only country that still has to DEBATE whether Iraq is a complete disaster) poked all sorts of holes in the Bush administration's plan for Iraq. The US Repubs kept asking them 'well what is YOUR plan?' and implying that the Democrats were only seeking political gain and offered no real solution.

So I ask the other side of the global warming debate. You are a vocal minority, so what is your plan?

i think your "friend" should stay with adult. :2 cents:

http://www.adbrite.com/mb/commerce/p...277508&afsid=1

Who is Google to tell someone about Copyright when their own site's are the very focus of several high profile Copyright lawsuits?

What do you think a fucking blog is dumbass lol. Show me a blog that DOESNT use news stories lol. That isnt the reason the reason is because some liberal hippie clicked on this guys links enough to make it look bad. Thats ok I just fucked a couple of liberal sites up by hitbotting their ads. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Because it costs money to our corporations who pass that cost on to consumers. Also other countries like China and India will not be handicapped by these reductions and will become stronger, which makes the United States weaker.

What "PLAN" are you thinking we need here? We already have plenty of environmental rules that make sense, many of us recycle, there are many conservation programs across the United States. Why do you think the status quo isnt good enough?

HUMANS are not causing global warming so why should we try to prevent what we arent causing?

most real blogs quote news and comment on it like the great http://www.jihadwatch.org/ but your "friend's" blog looks like it's wholly scraped content.

here's something you should read next time before you jump to conclusions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor

So you are the one that is hitbotting all those global warming debunking sites? Shouldnt you be busy shooting Palestinian kids, nailing Christians to a cross or something?

did it 2000 years ago.

I really don't give a flying fuck about global warming. If, and that's a big fucking if, it is real, I'll be dead long before it happens, and then, being that I'm dead, I won't give two shits about it. And my kids? Oh fucking well. I'll be dead, and with that, comes no responsibility and no cares. :)

50 dead polar bears

And you still couldnt kill him.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ya know.. as soon as ya bust out with FUCK FACE, you lose credibility
it's not so much an edjumacated choice of wordage :tongue:

Oh and I suppose him calling me a jackass first made much him sound much more credible. Stop reaching beyond the point that human induced global warming is a LIE.

Im an equal opportunity asshole... fuck face.

not me. don't believe in global warming either. soon the third temple will be rebuilt and all this will be academic. :)

I think it will show up as warmer in some places, colder in some places, wetter in some places and dryer in others. I think the whole point is that balance that nature had is being forced to extremes.

The realms of your stupidity reach new depths the more you open your mouth.

OMG please dont hurt me with your Southpark quotes kid. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://myspace.com/myboringlife

Haha NICE anyone that wants to meet Nick Sterling is OK in my book. HAHAHAHA.

Apathy is worse than hatred.

To your corporations in the US? Is that why the European nations who have enacted similar or more restrictive legislation (Kyoto?) are gaining strength while the dollar gets weaker? I hate to tell you Americans this, but you are (once again) the last ones to get on the boat, while the rest of the world points and laughs.

These arguments of 'the cost of goods will go up' and 'China/3rd World will continue to take our jobs' are decades old. Yet America appears to be doing okay. I'd worry about your massive trade defecit with China, something tells me that has more to do with the issues you are concerned about than CO2.

I do find it interesting that you used 2 of the arguments I had predicted you would. Let's examine those:

1 - Greater controls on emissions would raise the prices on consumer goods. That's been said about every environmental policy affecting big business for literally decades. Who pays for the commercials and lobbying to tell you that? You guessed it. If big businesses spent the money on reform instead of lobbying, they'd be emission-free by now. This applies to a lot of countries, but especially to America because your policymakers are in the pockets of the big corporations.

2 - Countries who have less regulation will grow stronger. The cost of making a country cleaner is negligible. For less than 1% of the annual US military budget, auto makers could retrofit their cars with low emission devices. For less than 1% livestock farmers (livestock release more greenhouse gasses than automobiles) could work on reclamation and recycling devices. The amount of money to see a noticable change is so negligible, the only excuse for not doing it is ignorance, or the desire by money-laden interests to save pennies on the dollar.

I think it is extremely arrogant when Americans deride policies widely accepted by the REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD and assume that because 50 other countries have examined the same data and reached the opposite conclusion, that we are clearly delusional.

In other words, do some of your own research. You will find that the cost of making changes to CO2 and other emissions is negligible. Your country spends trillions on defense and weapons. Making the air cleaner and the environment more habitable would be a drop in the bucket.

When all else fails and you realize that your leaders are more interested in protecting their corporate sponsors than they are their citizens, you can resort to the Cold War Era arguments that by weakening our corporations we are letting the Communists and Muslims win.

Tell friend to try exoclick.com.

Are you smart enough to be able to render scientific theory from 500,000 years of weather data if made available to you?

If so, good for you man.

I'd have to think, though, you shouldn't be posting here if you're that bad ass.

i love how every thread splum posts in turns into a bullshit internet political debate.

However, I do have to give you credit for your unintentionally correct statement.

I found the article I was looking for. If you thought those Chinese were insidious, you were right! They are actually polluting your cities for you!

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...0,661397.story

I am all for exposing lies that reap political gain for one group or another. But in this case, I have to argue that reducing pollution is a cause we should all be behind. It's easy to bicker over the details, but ignoring the reality that humans are (at the very least) making parts of the world dangerous to live in, killing off animal and plant species, and posing health risks to one another, is simply foolish.

In some European countries, endangering the lives of citizens via corporate pollution is a felony offense. Corporate leaders can be imprisoned. Making the penalties for screwing up our planet more severe is one step in the right direction to stopping all this B.S. spin and having a meaningful debate about protecting the environment.

Thats why they call it capitolism, the system only works if you let it work on its own without overbearing and unnecessary regulations.
You obviously have a completely different mindset, and probably one that doesnt have the American people in its best interests.
Human induced global warming is a lie and not worthy of altering our policies wholesale.
That being said like I mentioned before America has enough policies already in place to help with conservation, but it must not come at the cost of human productivity or advancement.

You stupid, ignorant tosser.

As you clearly don't have the intelect to read raw scientific data, who then can read it to you?

Because Splum is a lowlife troll who keeps stirring the pot, regardless of others showing him how stupid he is.

Some people cannot see the wood for the trees.

And to boot, I'm a French liberal, according to my ICQ alias that Splum has for me in his 'buddies' list :1orglaugh

Ahh its the coder. One word for you mr "borked"(how appropriate nickname for a coder). Backdoor.

Oh also what kind of homo uses the word "tosser" lol?

99.99% of the time it has to do with clicking their own ads.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
it must be true then

As you can't read, Splum, go watch Are We Changing Planet Earth by Sir David Attenborough. He's a scientist that translates raw science into a language even idiots like you can understand. Go watch his 2-part series.

Backdoor? Are you implying I open backdoors in my programmes?
I have the ICQ log from that conversation - I can't get you banned from a private accusation, but if you care to make it public....

I highly doubt that he was banned for his views on global warming.

For one idiot Attenborough isnt a scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough

For two Attenborough IS a broadcaster(aka guy who gets paid to make broadcasts)

Just click on my sig to watch a movie that was made by REAL scientists who have no fiscal stake.

Oh Im sorry I didnt speak your language here... Baaa baaa baaaa

I hope BoyAlley backdoors your ass.

wow, does splum seem like the type of guy to have friends???
i mean does he seem like the type of guy to have friends who would do such a thing?!?!!

the title of FRS doesn't come without a scientific background idiot.

Scientists have agendas as well ya know. It's what the.... wait for it.... MAJORITY of scientists in this field think. Not one frikken layman.

Oh Karen honey I am so hurt I am not in your Myspace top 8.
http://www.myspace.com/myboringlife

He can backdoor my ass any time.

There are some that give it, others only take it.

I have never backdoored anyone and if you care to accuse me otherwise, go ahead....

I dont see anything scientific about "Fucking Really Stupid".

So which one is it? Google hates blogs that rant about global warming or a hippie hitbotting your friends site?