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baddog 03-14-2007 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFK (Post 12076978)
on pg 22 it also states that "fewer than 100 webmasters participated", I was in the room and counted apx 150 people:2 cents:
Still, that was a pretty sad number. I expected to see standing room only like the 2257 seminar.

baddog 03-14-2007 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12077341)

EDIT: what sucks though is that ICM are reading this thread right now probably,
You don't think they have been from the gate?

EZRhino 03-14-2007 02:19 PM
WOW! I could smell the bullshit through my screen.
Fuck dot xxx

davecummings 03-14-2007 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12077341)
nothing against these adresses (don't know most of them) but you're missing the key email adresses of the ICANN board directors there

and personally I don't think sending this thread to ICANN will accomplish anything

IMO a few different people need to take a few hours of their time again to write some longer reply to ICANN regarding the claims and accusations of ICM presented in the newly published documents

EDIT: what sucks though is that ICM are reading this thread right now probably, so we can't really discuss our strategies public on GFY anymore,.... at least not everything....
Wish the owner(s) of GFY could somehow/legally stop the ICM monitoring; in fact, it'd be nice if the GFY owner(s) came out strongly against .xxx publicly ----MANY, MANY, MANY posters/readers of GFY might appreciate it and respect such GFY opposition to .xxx, and be relieved to know that GFY is not part of the so-called group of "24" that ICM counts as supporters??? Just my personal opinion!!! We know that YNOT has long been against .xxx, but can anyone enighted us about the other "leaders" and boards????

baddog 03-14-2007 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12077439)
first of all, that post is already almost one year old

second, it clearly has a :winkwink: next to it, which should be sufficient clarification that it was not serious
I don't think a :winkwink: is going to change anything for someone that wants to be a manipulator.

Quote:

third, after all my fight against .xxx, now you suddenly suggest that i am stupid and want to blame me for some joke I made one year ago?
While it may appear that I was directing my comment to you alone, I wasn't. There have been many dumb suggestions made by many people, you certainly are not alone.

For you to come to the sudden realization that ICM mioght be reading GFY really surprises me.

Did you know the FBI and every other major law enforcement agency does as well?

davecummings 03-14-2007 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12077473)
my email is in my sig, please e-mail me and I'll point you in the right direction

Personally I don't think the email adresses of ICANN CEO and Chairman should be posted here, considering they could be mis-used by some people.

I wasn't referring to potential legal consequences of the words you use when speaking about ICM, rather about the fact that basically we openly discuss everything here and then they monitor it and know our next step.

Just like in the movie that I watched yesterday where the bank robbers were listeting to the police which was surrounding the bank so they knew everything which was planned.

Another concern is that ICM apparently likes to twist words and put things out of context, like they did with quotes from FightThisPatent or myself... But I guess this should be taken care soon, some new detailed email to ICANN should explain the tactics ICM used...
OK, I'll email you in a moment for those email addresses.

Have you any ideas how we can get those published for the many who seem upset here with the latest ICM letters---would it be alraight with you if I added them to my former list once you give them to me, and then post them all here, and possibly elsewhere?

baddog 03-14-2007 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 12077506)
Wish the owner(s) of GFY could somehow/legally stop the ICM monitoring; in fact, it'd be nice if the GFY owner(s) came out strongly against .xxx publicly ----MANY, MANY, MANY posters/readers of GFY might appreciate it and respect such GFY opposition to .xxx, and be relieved to know that GFY is not part of the so-called group of "24" that ICM counts as supporters??? Just my personal opinion!!! We know that YNOT has long been against .xxx, but can anyone enighted us about the other "leaders" and boards????
I think there is a reason why they don't come out against .xxx, but that is based primarily on hearsay and supposition.

pornguy 03-14-2007 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 12073941)
wondered about that too


and on that note. . who be the big players who be having deals with ICM for the 'good' names ??


or ya think those deals dont exist? ! :warning :warning
You and I, and everyone here knows that answer, but no one wants to say it.

Bossman 03-14-2007 03:06 PM
Will forward this to the party groups in the European Parliament. They are following this closely, since they see the possible approval of the .xxx tld as "the straw that broke the camel's back". If the .xxx tld will be approved then they will use it to get ICANN into a international (probably UN) controlled body/organization - away from US control. The US only kept control after intens lobbying effort, something the US is about to throw away with the approval of a .xxx tld (see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...et_governance/ for a report from the meeting in 2005).

If the .xxx tld is approved, then the US looses control of the internet in 2010 :2 cents:

davecummings 03-14-2007 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 12077807)
Will forward this to the party groups in the European Parliament. They are following this closely, since they see the possible approval of the .xxx tld as "the straw that broke the camel's back". If the .xxx tld will be approved then they will use it to get ICANN into a international (probably UN) controlled body/organization - away from US control. The US only kept control after intens lobbying effort, something the US is about to throw away with the approval of a .xxx tld (see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...et_governance/ for a report from the meeting in 2005).

If the .xxx tld is approved, then the US looses control of the internet in 2010 :2 cents:

Nice, VERY nice!!! Thanks for forwarding it!!!

tony286 03-14-2007 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12077474)
Still, that was a pretty sad number. I expected to see standing room only like the 2257 seminar.
I could see it having a low turn out because people know icm will not tell the truth,they didnt at internext and they were very vague,with a trust us mantra. I could see people seeing it as a waste of time.

tony286 03-14-2007 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 12077506)
Wish the owner(s) of GFY could somehow/legally stop the ICM monitoring; in fact, it'd be nice if the GFY owner(s) came out strongly against .xxx publicly ----MANY, MANY, MANY posters/readers of GFY might appreciate it and respect such GFY opposition to .xxx, and be relieved to know that GFY is not part of the so-called group of "24" that ICM counts as supporters??? Just my personal opinion!!! We know that YNOT has long been against .xxx, but can anyone enighted us about the other "leaders" and boards????
Xbiz did the show here but when it came to actually writing a letter to icann.Nothing from the owner,where AVN's owner has given a official statement to Icann.

davecummings 03-14-2007 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 12077644)
You and I, and everyone here knows that answer, but no one wants to say it.
Did I possibly say "it" in my posting #54 (above), at least for one?

mikesouth 03-14-2007 07:12 PM
I know one big player in favor of .XXX is ron levi...rooted him out.

I can also tell you that gfy wont likely come out against it...at least in the begining lensman was for it dunno if he still is

davecummings 03-14-2007 11:00 PM
Evening bump time!

polish_aristocrat 03-15-2007 12:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12077545)

For you to come to the sudden realization that ICM mioght be reading GFY really surprises me.
I was under the impression they are watching GFY, but didn't realize they are reading each thread carefully related to .xxx. Now it's apparent than they do.

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Did you know the FBI and every other major law enforcement agency does as well?
yeah, I hear it, but then again, we have people here who first brag about buying a new BMW or even two... and then few months later they start a thread "how the fuck do you pay taxes, i never did it yet" etc....If law enforcement reads GFY carefully, then such people would be already charged...

polish_aristocrat 03-15-2007 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 12077557)
OK, I'll email you in a moment for those email addresses.
got your email, will reply now, sorry for the delay

Quote:
Have you any ideas how we can get those published for the many who seem upset here with the latest ICM letters---would it be alraight with you if I added them to my former list once you give them to me, and then post them all here, and possibly elsewhere?
I will reply to that in my email as well

Bossman 03-15-2007 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12080552)
If law enforcement reads GFY carefully, then such people would be already charged...
I know "they" are monitoring the different channels where the industry speaks - including boards. However since there are many different branches and jurisdictions of law enforcement, then we will not see a "stasi" like system in place, where every board persona has a dossier in a dark headquarter.

Always remember that goverment is the most ineffective system ever created by mankind, and if goverments were truly effective, then we would already live as slaves in camps... the seven deadly sins keeps the world from turning into a dark place ruled by bureaucrats/politicians :)

Nikki_Licks 03-15-2007 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeHawk (Post 12074101)
Bullshit....


We will be in Phoenix when this vote goes down...

Last time i was in Toronto for that show, got shot down then...will get shot down again....

This time ....it will be stepped on like a bug..that wont die.
I really hope you are right and we don?t have to hear from this snot sucking piece of shit Lawley and his band of merry cocksucking friends anymore.

I would love to tell you what I really feel should happen to this worthless fuck Lawley, but it would get me banned from here and probably arrested too.....
I guess you can tell I have nothing but contempt I have for Lawley......

Nikki_Licks 03-15-2007 09:34 AM
I will tell ya, I read through it and had to try my best to contain myself. Reading the bullshit lies from ICM is almost too hard to stomach. Is ICANN that dense to not see the forest for the trees? They really can't be this stupid, can they!




Fuck Lawley and .XXX

teksonline 03-15-2007 09:35 AM
Just do this, if they are trying to use this bs of pre-regging .xxx tld's as a sign of support from the industry, simply have to inform them as opposition to say...

"No, we are clearly not in favor and totally oppose this ridiculous TLD
We are in complete fear of what this may lead to via our 1st amendment rights and basically feel like we are being monopilized and cornered into
securing our futures" or some shit

teksonline 03-15-2007 09:38 AM
just think of what will happen if .xxx passes, whats next? .sex .nude .porn .tits
why not? approve this and your hands are going to be seriously full of new tld's you can not dissprove

Barefootsies 03-15-2007 09:39 AM
If people are going to write ICANN on this issue moving forward, address this quote...


Quote:
ICM sets out to demonstrate the support of the sponsored community by stating 76,723 .XXX adult website names have been pre-reserved since June 1, 2006; 1,217 adult webmasters from more than 70 countries have registered on ICM?s site saying that they support .XXX and wish to register a name

Lawley's claiming that because a bunch of chicken little's pre-registered a bunch of domains, that THIS is the basis for the support of the triple X ghetto.

Since I am sure there are a lot of squatters, among others, who've done this pre-registration shit. YOU should post your motivations behind it in your next letter to ICANN so it takes the wind of of Lawley's sail.

JFK 03-15-2007 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12082677)
If people are going to write ICANN on this issue moving forward, address this quote...





Lawley's claiming that because a bunch of chicken little's pre-registered a bunch of domains, that THIS is the basis for the support of the triple X ghetto.

Since I am sure there are a lot of squatters, among others, who've done this pre-registration shit. YOU should post your motivations behind it in your next letter to ICANN so it takes the wind of of Lawley's sail.
Pre registration is just to protect your self from Squatters, has Nothing to do with approval of the Tld. Lawley is Twisting things around to suit his needs:2 cents:

Barefootsies 03-15-2007 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFK (Post 12082840)
Pre registration is just to protect your self from Squatters, has Nothing to do with approval of the Tld. Lawley is Twisting things around to suit his needs:2 cents:
Indeed he is.

Which is the point that the board members are not industry people who would understand that. So on your next letter(s) to ICANN, explain WHY you had preregistered, and then that will eliminate that argument of 'validity' he's claiming.

:2 cents:

LadyMischief 03-15-2007 10:13 AM
Lawley seems to have missed his calling, he should have been a preacher, not whatever he is now. He can take small snippets of the whole and manipulate them to mean anything he wants. Take something out of context and it's open to spin and interpretation. That's a snake move.

DVTimes 03-15-2007 10:55 AM
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/714856-icm-registry-attempts-push-xxx-forward.html

DWB 03-15-2007 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 12073838)
I wonder why ICM doesn't participate much on GFY, given the role they wish to play in the adult industry??
1) Because most real threads do not get looked at here. They would be better off to post a title that says "huge ass, would you hit it?" in order to get people to read a real biz thread.

2) Too many people on GFY (and other boards) act like total assholes. I would not want to deal with *us* either.

FightThisPatent 03-15-2007 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12079326)
Xbiz did the show here but when it came to actually writing a letter to icann.Nothing from the owner,where AVN's owner has given a official statement to Icann.

i haven't seen the letter, but notice xbiz listed here:
http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

I don't post up names unless i was told by the company they are taking a public stance or received documentation (ie. scanned letters) that they are against.


Fight the click challenged!

GeorgeK 03-15-2007 03:09 PM
ICANN's blog had a post today about "Topics of Interest Beyond RegisterFly," see:

http://blog.icann.org/?p=50

I find it interesting that .XXX wasn't on the list. Could it be that the Board made a final decision at the March 13th meeting, for which minutes have not yet been posted??

http://www.icann.org/minutes/

should have the meeting notes within 5 business days of March 13th.

tony286 03-15-2007 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 12083935)
i haven't seen the letter, but notice xbiz listed here:
http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

I don't post up names unless i was told by the company they are taking a public stance or received documentation (ie. scanned letters) that they are against.


Fight the click challenged!
Dude unless they write icann, I dont think it means much. Being on your site and not writing icann to me is like fence sitting but looks good to the little people.It takes how long to send a email off to icann maybe two minutes.

polish_aristocrat 03-16-2007 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeK (Post 12084897)
ICANN's blog had a post today about "Topics of Interest Beyond RegisterFly," see:

http://blog.icann.org/?p=50

I find it interesting that .XXX wasn't on the list. Could it be that the Board made a final decision at the March 13th meeting, for which minutes have not yet been posted??

http://www.icann.org/minutes/

should have the meeting notes within 5 business days of March 13th.
IMO if there was a decision already, we would hear about it asap, like last year

last year the WSJ.com website posted about ICANN rejecting .xxx 20 minutes after they did it

and 2-3 hours later, an official statement on www.icann.org was present

interesting though that back then it seemed really like it was the final decision... so it was quite a surprise when .xxx was relived in January this year and ICANN said in May 2006 "the board voted to not accept .xxx, but didn't reject it"...

polish_aristocrat 03-16-2007 01:35 AM
looks like I was right

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...4#post12088104

.xxx should be decided in less than 2 weeks at the open meeting in Lisbon

perhaps I should go there? could be fun :glugglug


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