did peaches mention her free sites again?

saddest thing i've read on this board :2 cents:

We all choose the level of ethics we wish to incorporate into our own businesses, and judging by some of your past posts I've read I would hazard a guess that you have a bit more moral fiber than you sometimes let on. I'm sorry but I 100% disagree with your above statement. If that were true I would not have stayed in this business 9 seconds let alone 9 years.

There are plenty of individuals in our community whom I have enjoyed doing business with, I wouldn't hesitate to invite most of them into my home or spend time socializing with. I would not be saying that if I thought everyone was basically a thief devoid of any ethics or moral compass.

Your rationale is flawed I'm afraid. You were attempting to say that it takes a thief to succeed big in adult, in attempts of basically saying that what Lars is doing is okay because that's the way things are done. So everyone should leave the guy alone for that reason.... but I'm sorry, it just doesn't wash. There are simply too many examples of successful people who aren't screwing everyone they can to get ahead and stay ahead, and I for one am thankful for that.

i corrected myself a few posts later, after my internet friend tony404 called me out on that. there are good people in adult. its the cocksuckers that i'm fed up with that i so briefly allowed to take over my state of mind. for that i apologize. your post is on the money. 7 years in this biz, the bad shit can easily appear to override the good people.

for the second time. my apologies to those of you that are not lying, stealing, unethical cock smokers that will steal your moms last breath of air to live longer. there are many of you out there that deserve my respect.

better? :)

and you're right, i've got a lot of ethics and heart. thank you for noticing. :)

Not only is that patently true - all anyone needs do is look around outside and even inside our industry - but promoting the idea that the reality is different is only the beginning of how foolish many in this business are. I don't know... it's almost as if some people want to believe this is a bad-boys industry, so that their being part of it makes them cool or whatever.

If someone is unethical and/or doesn't care about others' ethics, then - for example - he might not have an issue about sitting with a bunch of sponsors and having a good laugh over how affiliates get screwed.

But Lars is doing at least as much damage to other sponsors as to affiliates: a heck of a lot more if you relate the percentage of traffic "Zango'd" to their turnover. The content-theft sites that AFF helps monetize, for sure maybe they generate a few type-in sales. But is anyone really stupid enough to believe that number is greater than the number of sales being lost because all this member-area content is floating around?

It's not only a nonsense to claim this industry is made up of unethical people, but we make ourselves look even more foolish by letting those who are and who prey on the rest of us be a part of our industry. "A part" in the sense that they can advertise on boards, they are welcomed at shows. They are invited to speak on panels!

How stupid is that? If you get burglarized, are you going to invite the burglar round for tea?

I guess I see it differently: If I was posting every few days how much I hated Lars and everything he stood for with a vengance, I would WELCOME having a "Come to Jesus" talk with him in a public place in a room full of my peers. Would I invite a burglar over for tea? No, but I'd sure enjoy interogating the hell out of him in front of my friends and fellow neighbors. :)

i hope with your mathematics you don't do the accounting at MM :1orglaugh

i see your anti-racist workshop does not work too well :1orglaugh

For the record I don't harbor any hate for Lars. From what I've come to know of him he's a pretty fun guy to be around, and a very personable fellow. Beyond his stance on zango and a few of his business practices I have no problem with him at all.

Hate doesn't factor into it.


Hopefully a few people at that seminar will choose to speak up and take him to task, I guess we'll soon see.

some people need to read threads before posting. they do take turns. meow.

I probably used the wrong word, lol. But you know what I mean, smartass <----- right word :winkwink:

I think people need to separate business relationships from personal relationships. I hear how fun and great Lars is, and I'm sure he is. I'm sure he buys tons of beers, parties like a rockstar, and is very enjoyable to be around. But that has nothing to do with business. Handshakes, beers, and "bros" don't pay the bills. I don't think there is any problem liking a guy personally, but disliking his business ethics, especially if it is hurting your pocketbook.

cool nice to know
thanks

I don't necessarily harbor any smartass for him either. :D

Wow, yeah, throwing parties, giving away cars with money earned from stolen content. SWEET!

yeah and I am sure that is exactly what the people thought who put the show together. Lets trick Lars into coming to a panel so everyone can drill him.... :upsidedow

I wouldn't be surprised if Lars shows up with a couple kegs before the seminar starts, starts passing out drinks and giving everyone hundreds.... by doing that 99% of them people in the room will think he is cool, a true bro, and all previous bad doings on his part would have been forgotten.