It was great seeing you last night. Definitely good times.

Jay,

Just an fyi, I dropped out of this seminar. So if you had suggestions for better selections (as you mentioned earlier), I think you should contact CCBill. I am always available to answer questions in regards to Weg, our marketing and our product development; However for this panel, I don't see myself as a good fit. As I said before, I was under the assumption that this was a discussion involving viral products / consumers / money made with blogs and syndication / etc.

Good luck on everything and I hope it ends up serving everyone well. The Phoenix Forum is a leader among leaders, I look forward to seeing everyone.

its pretty tactless and insulting to the panelists to publicly say that you dont agree that they should be on that panel, when you are moderating it

While it certainly made my decision to drop an easier one, I do see why the speakers were selected.

I think the Phoenix Forum does a good job selecting speakers and organizing a show that is as business driven as possible. What they do isn't easy and I am looking forward to it once again this year.

who are the panelists anyhow? what is the panel really about? branding? personality marketing? this is actually the first time i've really paid attention to that term. i'll still go and check it out for sure. even if i'm hung over and reaking of jaegermeister and dirty girls.

btw, get those two movies i told you about last night. was great hanging out with everyone, was a perfect night. lots of fun.

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Will do on the movies, Thanks. Good seeing you as well.

And great picture. Good times for sure. :thumbsup

Why? I honestly think there are a few more prolific marketing people in this biz who I know love to be on panels that I think would be a better match for this particular seminar. I'm sure the same could be said about me and moderating it.

I feel the same way about a few speakers on other seminars as well. I've been organizing seminars for Cybernet Expo for going on 5 years... I have my way of doing things... Phoenix Forum has theirs. Neither is 100% correct. It is what it is.

here is why

first of all, you have been asked to participate and your hurting the seminar by saying that it could have been set up better rather than helping it

i dont see what that statement gained you versus what it cost, just expected a little more professionality from a guy that helps organize competing shows

just struck me as a pretty pussy thing to say, when you got a little pushback, "oh i had nothing to do with it, i would have done it differently"

as for your experience with cybernet, since you brought it up, last years show was the worse run/planned show i had ever been to, all around, so your mention of that did not gain you much ground

by the way, its not about putting people on panels that want to be on panels, im sure if you took a poll, youll find half or more of the attendees willing to sit on a panel to market themselves and their products to a thousand people, its about putting people on panels that are of value to the audience

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Well said, LAJ --thanks!

Dave

I'd like to contribute by saying that there is another tier to personality based marketing over nick, antics, and style - one can build a reputation and name for themselves by becoming well known for their area of expertise and having the ability to communicate that knowledge, help others, and showing a path of being sucessful at it. By being resourceful, ones name can become well known. But this takes effort, time, and a level of professionalism beyond just board postings and 'looks' to become well known. The ones that are paying attention will always think of your name first when the topic of who is knowledable about that field and will always come to you when the time is right.

I'm not feeling great about being on this panel now because of this either. Wtf Jay? Maybe you should remove yourself from this one since you are so unhappy with the setup?

Steve Lightspeed

yeah, not sure where he was going with that post.

does he need to go ANYWHERE?:thumbsup .................... Draw your own conclusions??

Seminars suck balls.

Seminars are a waste of quality sleeping time.

If you need to go to a seminar to learn shit, or better yet, If you think your going to learn something at a seminar, then its probably time to find another line of work.

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lol...

Hey a big thumbs up to all those popular people....:thumbsup :thumbsup

You were profiled in the wall street journal and your that sensitive? Stop this is your show:)

nice, here comes the unpopular crowd now. :winkwink:

what name did you used to go by before this one?

I'm not that "sensitive", but I too thought this seminar was supposed to be about branding and viral marketing. I'm surprised that LAJ would publicly criticize CCBill's selection of panelists so adamantly. And I think it is discourteous to The Phoenix Forum to suggest that Cybernet does a better job, whether it does or not.

Steve Lightspeed

You dont think its a fake nick, do you??:Graucho

learn... :winkwink: shit i got that one down pretty good already.

Why doesn't someone ban this bitch?

can i put kitty in to replace cory? kitty has madddddd personality. he don't know about branding though. :(

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considering what you said above, perhaps you should honorably tender the reigns to somebody better suited to make the seminar the best it can be

I'll get us an XXXL sweatshirt we can wear and share the seat on the panel

Wow Steve, that is a pretty fucking exaggerated account of what Jay posted. I agree completely with Tony, it seems like you're way too sensitive here. Here's an idea... call me radical, but if you didn't like what Jay posted, why not simply call him and ask him PRIVATELY to explain what he meant and possibly reconsider it, rather then calling for a public lynch mob on GFY?

conner, your obviously biased because you work with jay, he should have kept his mouth shut if he didnt want to insult anybody, isnt that a novel idea?

call me radical, he said it publicly, he should deal with it publicly, lightspeeds not the only person that read what he wrote, why should he get the private explanation?

true SOS was a funny character:pimp

Well folks... I certainly meant no harm by my earlier statements, I'm not a vindictive person, but clearly feelings were hurt and unfortunately comments were misinterpreted. I essentially meant that every show is different which incidentally in my opinion is one of the strengths of the industry and why so many people attend all of the various shows and not just one.

I know how hard CCBill has been working on the Phoenix Forum and I know personally how hard it is to put a trade show together... so the last thing I want to do is be the cause of any bad feelings at the marketing seminar. My interests here are for the Phoenix Forum to be the best it possibly can be.

I feel at this point it's probably best for me to recuse myself as moderator of the marketing panel. Thanks to CCBill for providing me with the opportunity in the first place and I have no doubt they will find a great replacement moderator.

So hopefully we've cleared this up now, and everyone can just concentrate on having a good time in Phoenix. See you all at the show.

LAJ, thanks, looking forward to seeing you in a few days

LAJ i know i am a few days late and a few dollars short here but i would like to say that was a very intresting article, i cannot count the number of emails i get daily where people send me mail from the various boards that i frequent where they want to party and hang out with good ole' chopper, what they do not realize is that chopperboy has a name offline and though his personality is not much different at all, i do my very best to be business oriented and try to find and reasearch the right answers for my questions and i also encourage others to do the same , because as it said in the article some base business on a post count or a name, i base it on what i read see and research. as i said nice article and maybe one day i will be sucessful enough to attend an expo or forum and hear one of your seminars or one of those from the others in this biz i trust.