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You and Sagi have always been nice to me:thumbsup
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Perhaps we need another thread where we discuss "if you don't wish someone was dead, then you're an ass kisser" so that we can properly define how much hatred you need to have towards someone to be considered neutral.
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Was good finally to meet you. I was the guy with JenniDahling in that lil store. Perhaps more words next time. |
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Grow up people. This isn't remedial school. What has "hating" got to do with anything?
Online porn is growing up. That's an inevitability. In another decade or so, it won't be recognizable as the same industry as today and most of the people who are here today will be gone and forgotten. In the long run, the only impact AFF's business "ethics" will have on anyone but themselves, is that the process might take a couple of years longer than it would if someone with their influence on the industry were pushing for higher standards and not trying to hold us back to lower ones. In the short term, if anything emotional is involved at all, it's respect. You want to respect someone who apparently thinks that both this industry and the company of which it is part are unique? Go ahead. I'm damn glad I'm on the other "side", not least because the whole time Lars was laying low, barely a handful of people had anything good to say about him. Now he is back, they come out of the woodwork. In my book that makes them gutless, as well as stupid. Lesson #1: no industry has ever stayed long in its wild west phase. Not one. Ever. Don't take my word for it, you can check for yourself. Lesson #2: being a pioneer only gets you a place in the history books so long as you make it to the next phase. In every mature industry, you can about count on one hand, the number who were smart enough to know when to stop breaking rules and start using them. Again, check for yourself. And you know what is the dumbest thing of all? This is supposed to be about money, but another inevitability of economic development cycles is that the real money starts when an industry gets to the next level. You want to be really smart? Forget about stealing from each other and get back to the business of selling. Sure it's harder, but it's going to get a lot harder. Where do you think you will be in 5 or 10 years, if you keep playing at the same-old, same-old, while new people are coming up who from day one have needed to be good enough to compete in today's market? |
Not really. Franck, SquishyPimp, Splum, dissipate, and I all have detractors.
But good work on the ego. :thumbsup |
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you struck me as a cocky, arrogant asshole, with a (previously) good pr campaign, just wanted the chance to say that |
Its worth pointing out Lars that 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, you would have had 100 people posting about how great you are within minutes, they would be babbling on and on about how great cams.com is and supporting you. If the recent lack of support even from sigwhores doesn't make you start asking questions or wake you up, then you are beyond saving.
the worst part is that you could turn things around in an afternoon. you could be one of the industries saviors. you could be a leader. you could use your substantial resources and influence to start fighting problems rather than taking a stance like "well, as the industries major players, we are just going to start fucking over everyone pre-emptively" - you could fight the problem. you could clean the business up. you could take an ethical stand and fight for whats right. you could take a stand and fight for the affiliates that send you traffic rather than supporting every scammer on the net that shares stolen content... you still have the power to make a huge difference. its a shame for this industry that you choose to act like a bitter, stubborn child instead. |
Pointing out someone is a thief isn't "hating". Would you say the person that identified the robber at a convenience store is a "hater" because they pointed out the thief?
You made your money stealing music and now stealing traffic. It's natural for you. |
will you make me the highest paid sigwhore in history pleaseee:)
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67 kiss assers in here!
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People with little or no ethics will remain so.. Their money buys them friends, attention, and cool, "Look at me!" things. This is more important to them than respect or ethics.. There are a number of them out & about.. They know who they are.. If they can live with it, I can live without it.. |
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It's simply astounding the few that actually defend a model that steals from affiliates. Bizarre really. |
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I think he does make one valid point here; that the sexsearch rats have gone virtually unscathed by simply laying low in the sewers and not addressing the issue in ANY capacity. I'm sure they are reading this post along with the dozens of other ones where people ask sexsearch's position and they avoided it. Just another reminder that it's not going away, sexsearch. |
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Add em to the list of mine and they can have a party!:thumbsup Last time I heard I was a tranny:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
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i'm always late in these threads
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starts a thread and acts like ripping affiliates off is ok lol
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BUT... lets assume i am in fact "angry" - like every other post you and Lars have made, that still has nothing to do with the issues at hand, or the facts as they unfolded. so... ok... i am angry. well, you are an employee of what is most likely the webs biggest supporter of stolen content, password trading and warez... and have a company that has been more than open about the fact that it won't change anytime soon. i can always get over my "anger" BUT can you guys stop your unethical behavior? can you guys stop supporting spyware? can you guys stop stealing peoples traffic with spyware? can you guys stop supporting password traders? can you guys stop supporting warez sites? can you guys stop supporting forums with stolen content and all those building sites/pages with stolen content? you steal from hardworking webmasters. that has always been an issue that comes up from time to time, over the years... but wow... seeing someone point out how you are robbing affiliates and then watching you guys publically say "yeah, well... get used to it" was beyond bizarre. and hopefully, its time for people to be upset enough about what they are losing, and start seeing the big picture, rather than caring about the "cool factor", who buys the drinks and what car the guy they try to suck up to drives. you guys use more than zango... care to talk about that? |
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I've met and talked with Lars a couple of times and he is not cocky or arrogant. He doesnt care whether you make $10,000/year or $10,000,000, he still makes the time to talk with you and treats you with respect. He struck me as being very "down to earth." |
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Thanks I appreciate that, I found a few people approch me with hesitation, but when they spoke with me they found that I am actually a very nice guy. I totally disagree with many of the posts in here, about my ethics or my integrity, I believe those who question my ethics or integrity really dont ahave a clue as to who I really am or what I really stand for. I have turned down huge ammounts of money in the past on stuff in this industry I thought was shady or unethical. Anyone who has been around for more than 5 years can attest to the fact that I have always been more above board than many of my peers. A few of you are dilusional as to the facts and I disagree with many of your viewpoints. You continue to beat a dead horse to fit whatever sick agenda you have. I think its about time I got back to making money hand over fist and forget once again the haters on this board, as they have little to no impact on my life as a whole. |
Best month EVAR !!
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show me the moneyyyyyyyyyyy
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Those other companies have ignored the issue. If you wouldn't have made SEVERAL posts insulting people, trying to defand your use of zango, down playing it as no big deal, etc... than you wouldn't have seen a fraction of the hate you received. YOU added the fuel to the fire. YOU put focus on yourself. Thank your buddy Zango too for "outing" you. You got bashed more because of *YOUR* actions than the fact that AFF used zango. You would make one bullshit thread calling people sheep and that would spawn 20 " AFF / LARS / Zango " threads. You still haven't learned because even though AFF has stopped using zango you are still here rubbing it in people's faces, making excuses for it, and you are still worried about what people are saying about the other companies and not about your own. It's one thing to support a company that takes 1% of people's sales but it's another thing to laugh and insult someone as you steal from them. Unfortunetly it's the nature of most people, take a few bucks from them, they might look the other way or not say much about it, spit in their face and take .50 cents from them and they will hate you forever. For me it's enough to piss me off that I am being stolen from, but most people are how I explained above. Here is proof to what I am saying, Back in November you were making all your bull shit post there were 100's of AFF / Zango threads, then Andrew took away your keyboard for 4 months, the AFF / Zango posts here all but disapeared. Here Lars pops back up with all his bullshit threads again rubbing it everyone's face and look, more bashing threads are started. You will never learn and until you admitt what you did was wrong, and let it go, ignore the posts and try to move on it is never going to get any better for you. You seem to like the attention but not the criticism. Is zango still happening the same, most likely. Is other companies getting the same amount of attention ? no, but they also don't have a moron spokesman rubbing shit in everyone's face either. I can assure you if sex search responded the same way you did they would get the same amount of attention. And besides what do you care, you have said all this attention makes you more money, so why do you want us to put more attention on your competition, per your logic that would make them more money. So it seems like your were just lieing again with those comments as well. |
hello LegendaryLars aka axis of evil aka iran
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you got caught stealing Fact 2: it took you several days to even think about how to address the issue and when you did, you posted a response that was obviously not written by you Fact 3: you defending using Zango by stating that you had no choice because you were doing it to protect your own trademarks Fact 4: you then began insulting people that were pointing out what was going on. Fact 5: your defense of your behavior was completely irrational and illogical because you are just one person bidding on your own URL's - meaning that there are still many more people bidding on your URL's... so you aren't "protecting your trademarks" at all. if there was ANY intention of actually protecting the trademarks of a 200,000,000.00 a year company... it could be done with a simple legal letter. Fact 6: it was then discovered that you were bidding on many adult URL's... including those who were defending you (much to their own shock and dismay) thats because you are a standup guy and "genuine" friend Fact 7: you continued to defend that behavior Fact 8: in what will prove to be the most insane PR mistep of the year, you announce months later that you are not going to use Zango anymore because its unprofitable. this was supposed to be a dig at Will and those against it. ironically, it was also a bizarre way of stating that you would gleefully continue to hijack peoples traffic had it been profitable to do so Fact 9: arguing as to the profitabiliy of using Zango contradicts your original stated purpose of why you were doing it - to protect your trademarks Fact 10: you can't directly dispute any facts or events as they unfolded. you fucked up bad. you are no longer the GFY Golden Promo boy... you can only keep calling people "haters", keep alluding to the notion that people "don't have all the facts" (which also gives the sycophants an out) and keep calling those who call you out on what your doing "sheep" - and keep talking about making bazillions of dollars to impress the ass kissers. Fact 11: You were busted. Cams.com was busted. on top of the zango fiasco, AFF is still the biggest supporter of illegal behavior on the internet and you still refuse to even so much as admit or accept any responsibility for anything you have done to hurt everyone in this industry. |
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naw, i saw him being an ass to somebody. thats the cool thing about these boards, i can comment on that. i have no agenda at all, i wanted to like him but he started this thread pointing out that he has haters, and i pointed out 1 of the reasons that he might |
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Really who was I an ass to I would like to know so I can appologize to that person. |
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Really who was I an ass to I would like to know so I can appologize to that person. |
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all is well. no one defends you anymore, you have obviously lost almost all influence you had in this community and no one is fooled by your bullshit.... but i am sure you have no trouble explaining that away too. here's a great idea... why don't you sue someone for libel for calling you guys out. then we'll get a chance to crawl through your servers, affiliate software and traffic logs and depose your employees to prove what a standup guy you are and what an ethical guy you are. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh |
its sad really though that I only have like 5-10 haters the ones who have been the most vocal these last few months. But I am certain that now we will not hear much if anything about zango as this really had nothing to do with zango it had to do with bashing me and my company. Where are all the threads with screencaps of the companies who are now popping up over Adult Friend Finder affilaites. I prolly should start a few :)
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That makes 0 sense. Stop trying to deflect the fact that you dug your own hole, you got caught and exposed, and people do not like you because of what YOU did and how YOU responded to it. |
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then you compound it by saying "we decided to stop because its not profitable to hijack your traffic anymore" as if that made perfect sense. must be a lot of great weed in Santa Cruz. |
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great attitude. :Oh crap |
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your agenda? make moronic statements in a weak attempt to direct attention away from the facts. the fact is you got busted... then you attacked those who were upset about thier traffic being stolen, then you defended stealing traffic.. then you later say "we stopped using zango because its not profitable to steal your traffic anymore". make more money. make all the money you need, using any and all means possible if you think it will fill the hole inside you. you sound more like someone that desperately needs a hug or larger dick. hopefully, this issue will never die. if you are going to be unapologetic about blatent theft, then others should be unapologetic about constantly raising the issue |
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