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Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtone68 (Post 12197271)
I spoke with Dan directly from 365. He gave me the official word today, but I wanted to see if anyone else had any insider details. I am looking at a few options.

Verotel and CCBill. If you need tangibles, BHE Bill.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:40 AM

Did you say CROOK?!??
 
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12197351)
I dont understand how these company dont have the common courtesy to let us know whats happening especially when we depend on them for our living.

They learned from Howard Cohen of iMonde


Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra (Post 12197713)
reminds me a lot of when i found out about paymonde going tits up here instead of in their own admin..

:(


Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaisonet (Post 12198363)
The World Is Yours!!!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Sharky 04-05-2007 06:07 AM

Interesting news. I'd wait for an announcement before jumping to conclusions though. It may very well be true, but I've learned to be careful what you read on the boards.

bigtone68 04-05-2007 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sharky (Post 12199937)
Interesting news. I'd wait for an announcement before jumping to conclusions though. It may very well be true, but I've learned to be careful what you read on the boards.

I'm not suggesting that 365 is headed down the tubes, but I can say that I have not processed a new sale or rebill in more than 3 days now. The one good thing I can say is that they are working hard to find me an alternative with their partner/parent Jettis. I'm just concerned because as a 365 client, I'm sure I'm not getting the full story and we don't truly know the financial health of the company long-term. I'm just crossing my fingers that this will works its way out in a positive way. :helpme

avolongold 04-05-2007 06:48 AM

Whatever the case may be with 365, i may be thinking it's a good thing no one from their office responded to any of my inquiries about using them to process payments for my paysites.

webmasterchecks 04-05-2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sharky (Post 12199937)
Interesting news. I'd wait for an announcement before jumping to conclusions though. It may very well be true, but I've learned to be careful what you read on the boards.

sharky, this is now a verified fact. the 365 guys will not deny it, their announcement will come soon, they are probably preparing it now

vicki 04-05-2007 08:00 AM

the best business advice you'll ever hear is ... DIVERSIFY

ccbill and back it with your OWN merchant account (or two if your volumes justify)!

bigtone68 04-05-2007 08:44 AM

I just spoke with Jeff the "former" CEO of 365 Billing and he comfirmed it as well. He said that they are working with Inteca to get all monies returned to webmasters over the next few weeks.

Sharky 04-05-2007 08:45 AM

Ok. I've also verified they closed their account. I'm told it's US only accounts and does not effect the EU based accounts.

bigtone68 04-05-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sharky (Post 12200665)
Ok. I've also verified they closed their account. I'm told it's US only accounts and does not effect the EU based accounts.

I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.

Anthony 04-05-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtone68 (Post 12200690)
I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.

We are not closing 365Billing.com

Our statement. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721399

NETbilling 04-05-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12199824)
Verotel and CCBill. If you need tangibles, BHE Bill.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Who is BHEbill?

Mitch

jcsike 04-05-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtone68 (Post 12200690)
I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.


inteca is an ibill-based company

haha, the 365 guys have "nothing" to do with ibill, huh?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=Inteca

MissMina 04-05-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon (Post 12197729)
wow... stick with the tried and true: PAYCOM & CCBILL.... jmho

That's what I got.. :thumbsup

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JD 04-05-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 12201155)
inteca is an ibill-based company

haha, the 365 guys have "nothing" to do with ibill, huh?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=Inteca

oh shit....

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 12200907)
Who is BHEbill?

Mitch

http://b-h-e.com/

Brad Mitchell 04-05-2007 02:41 PM

Bad news for their clients, thousands of affiliate and the industry as a whole. I wish the best of luck to all of the sites relying on them for their processing in finding their solution with either CCBill or Epoch.

Brad

vicki 04-05-2007 02:51 PM

whats odd to me is that nobody has asked WHY their account was closed.
Banks do not close accounts willy-nilly, they have a REASON for it.
(remember back to the CE days?)

even though its 'only' the US thats affected, if the account was closed on them it makes one wonder about the business practices that caused the closure ... and how long before it affects the EU banking relationships

---------
on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki (Post 12203038)
on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??

Who the hell is M.L.?

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 12202965)
Bad news for their clients, thousands of affiliate and the industry as a whole. I wish the best of luck to all of the sites relying on them for their processing in finding their solution with either CCBill or Epoch.

Brad

or Verotel

:winkwink:

vicki 04-05-2007 03:07 PM

barefootsies .... he'll know who I mean if its him (as I suspect it is)

Nad 04-05-2007 03:09 PM

Vicki - as per our statement on this matter the account was NOT closed by the bank. The account was in excellent standing, and as such monies will continue to be released. Our organization has simply parted ways with the CEO of 365BillingUS, Jeff Foster.

365Billing EU and the Parent Company are strong, stable and continue to grow... if anyone has any questions, do not hesitate to contact your representative or myself directly.

Read our official statement here:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721399




Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki (Post 12203038)
whats odd to me is that nobody has asked WHY their account was closed.
Banks do not close accounts willy-nilly, they have a REASON for it.
(remember back to the CE days?)

even though its 'only' the US thats affected, if the account was closed on them it makes one wonder about the business practices that caused the closure ... and how long before it affects the EU banking relationships

---------
on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??


Barefootsies 04-05-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki (Post 12203160)
barefootsies .... he'll know who I mean if its him (as I suspect it is)

Ah ok. Must be some code talk. No clue who that, or those initials, stand for.

Maybe I need to get out more.

:Oh crap

GigoloMason 04-05-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 12199466)
Mason is a good, smart guy.

Aww <3 Was good getting to hang with you in phx!

RegUser 04-05-2007 04:17 PM

good bloody lord
I have been trying to get payment for past several days from these guys
not a damn dime
has anyone been paid recently ?

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 12203718)
good bloody lord
I have been trying to get payment for past several days from these guys
not a damn dime
has anyone been paid recently ?

:Oh crap :Oh crap

RegUser 04-05-2007 04:24 PM

comeon barefoot bro
not both of us again....we are still licking wounds inflicted by mister cohen

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 12203788)
comeon barefoot bro
not both of us again....we are still licking wounds inflicted by mister cohen

Well in this case, I am sorry to see you are burned again. I recognized the name. Luckily I have been happy with adding in CCBill as a secondary on my cascade, and Verotel as main on everything except tangibles, and custom orders (over $100).

I did not get burned this time, but I see you, and some of the others I recognize from Howie Nixon era. My sincerest condolences on this my friend.

:(

Webby 04-05-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12204100)
Well in this case, I am sorry to see you are burned again. I recognized the name. Luckily I have been happy with adding in CCBill as a secondary on my cascade, and Verotel as main on everything except tangibles, and custom orders (over $100).

I did not get burned this time, but I see you, and some of the others I recognize from Howie Nixon era. My sincerest condolences on this my friend.

:(

Ah.. the Howie era :winkwink:

Whatever the reasons and excuses this time, and irrespective of what future 365billing may have or not, and how accurate or otherwise their "press releases" are - the fundamental issue remains that most TPP's do not or will not provide *any* form of security for the funds they hold on behalf of webmasters.

The only two processors I know of who do provide an element of security as part of their biz model are SegPay and Verotel (you chose well!).

It's amazing that *any* processor even exists today where they cannot provide a biz model to secure client funds in the event of their demise - even more surprising are the so-called "big names" who still do not provide this. But again... iBill was a big name at one time, and time seems to be a leveller :)

Barefootsies 04-05-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12204165)
Ah.. the Howie era :winkwink:

:winkwink: :winkwink:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12204165)
The only two processors I know of who do provide an element of security as part of their biz model are SegPay and Verotel (you chose well!).

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12204165)
It's amazing that *any* processor even exists today where they cannot provide a biz model to secure client funds in the event of their demise - even more surprising are the so-called "big names" who still do not provide this. But again... iBill was a big name at one time, and time seems to be a leveller :)


count of monte cristo 04-05-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mmaisonet (Post 12198363)
Thanks for the kind words Jake. Anyone looking for alternatives, please hit me up on icq or email me at [email protected].

you fuckin rat

chupacabra 04-05-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by count of monte cristo (Post 12204714)
you fuckin rat

i believe the word you are looking for friend is 'vulture', not rat..

count of monte cristo 04-05-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra (Post 12204853)
i believe the word you are looking for friend is 'vulture', not rat..


good point, and i admit this was an afterthought, but 365 are still processing in the eu, so they are not carrion at this point. rats will nibble at you when you are alive.

Major (Tom) 04-06-2007 03:02 AM

didnt two big sponsors make obvious set up plugs for 365 like 4 months ago?
i knew it would go tits shining.
Duke

Barefootsies 04-06-2007 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 12206694)
didnt two big sponsors make obvious set up plugs for 365 like 4 months ago?
i knew it would go tits shining.
Duke

:Oh crap

RegUser 04-06-2007 11:06 AM

has anyone been paid by 365 lately?

Pete-KT 04-06-2007 11:11 AM

wow hope anyone with them has stopped using them already


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