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woj 04-11-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12240362)
I wouldn't say 95%. I know some electricians, plumbers, even frammers who make more buiilding houses for me than a lot of people who went to college. Hell I know some mexicans who can't speak english who make more than some of my college friends. All those skilled jobs require no college degree, and for service related work bill anywhere from 60 - 100$ an hour. I know people who charge over 100 an hour for networking who never went to college but work for a computer company. I know someone who drives rigs and makes more than some people with a college degree. I worked with bartenders who pulled down 200 - 300 a night, worked 3 - 4 nights a week and make more than a lot of people who graduted from college. This is just rambling off the top of my head with out even thinking. I am sure I could name a lot more examples of professions you can good money doing that don't require a college degree.

How many people get out of college and can't find work ?

It's not all about the money though, many people choose a rewarding career with average pay, over a shitty jobs that pay well... Sure you can make 200-300 a night serving drinks to a bunch of drunks, or unclog toilets the whole day, and make 6 figures a year, but come on, would you really want to do that? Those jobs may be great for the first 3 months, $$ is flowing in, you think you are big shot, but then you start getting the "I hate my job" feeling... I don't think the same thing happens quite as often with jobs requiring a college degree...

will76 04-11-2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12240481)
so you sucked at maths and had bad grammar, and you didn't have good enough I.T. facilities at your college. Maybe you went to a sucky college.

Didn't you learn ANY study skills, organisational skills, motivational skills etc. in college?

...damn, Im glad Im at a good Uni in the UK.... :P

I got laid a lot, learned what " drinking with lincoln " meant. Played a lot of intermural sports, had a blast. It taught me next to nothing. I look at it as an excuse to not grow up for another 4 - 5 years after i got out of high school. A lot of people i know that went to college looked at it the same way, most of them didn't even have to work, it was a big joke, big waste of 4 -5 years of your life from actually doing anything productive.

I went to a state college, LSU. No different than any other state college for the most part. I don't think the school as bad as much as the people attending were attending for the wrong reasons, and what they did learn, in most cases didn't help them worth a shit for the " real world ".

lalika 04-11-2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12234637)
I went to college, graduate with a degree and I will be the first to tell people not to go to college. UNLESS you want a career that requires a college degree, like needing a college degree to be admitted into law school so you can become a lawyer. If you don't know what you want to do or if you don't need a college degree to do it, than don't waste your tme and money. Learn a specific trade or try starting your own business first.

how much is it / term over there, in the US!

will76 04-12-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 12240547)
It's not all about the money ...

I am sorry what did you say ?? it's not ^!^!#* #*#*@@ *@* " ... "


I can't understand those words, I don't know what that phrase means :winkwink:

will76 04-12-2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lalika (Post 12240573)
how much is it / term over there, in the US!

When i went it was cheap, like 1200 a semester. Last I heard I think it cost more like 4K a semester and depending if you live in state or out of state the fees could go up a lot more. In general I think most state universities would run about 5K where as a good private university (average) might be more like 20K

quiet 04-12-2007 12:04 AM

um yeah, say away from university or college. yep.

will76 04-12-2007 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 12240547)
It's not all about the money though, many people choose a rewarding career with average pay, over a shitty jobs that pay well... Sure you can make 200-300 a night serving drinks to a bunch of drunks, or unclog toilets the whole day, and make 6 figures a year, but come on, would you really want to do that? Those jobs may be great for the first 3 months, $$ is flowing in, you think you are big shot, but then you start getting the "I hate my job" feeling... I don't think the same thing happens quite as often with jobs requiring a college degree...

Words to the wise, if it is a job ( or for that matter anything you make money doing) 99% of people are not going to enjoy it. I think there are very very few people who can do something that they have to do for income day after day that they can truely enjoy and find rewarding. College degree or not.

The unclog a toilet, sure some plumbing jobs are bad, some have nothing to do with shit actually. The ones i deal with do all the plumbing on new construction. Maybe some people take pride in building something, maybe they do it for the money. Maybe some people enjoy entertaining and like the night life. The people I know who bartend who make really good money, have been doing it for years, 10+ years. Some of them have college degrees :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Matt 26z 04-12-2007 01:05 AM

The biggest problem with attending college is seeing your degree through to an actual career. Looking at the people around me, VERY FEW are actually working in the field they went to school for.

I think a lot of that goes back to kids being forced to make a major career decision, and based on what? They have no life experience.

I saw something on TV about the high school vs. college earnings debate. Everyone says that college grads earn more, but this guy outlined that if you invest your would-be college money and instead enter the workforce at 18 that you'll actually come out ahead of the college grad.

Webby 04-12-2007 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12240736)
The biggest problem with attending college is seeing your degree through to an actual career. Looking at the people around me, VERY FEW are actually working in the field they went to school for.

This is prob very true overall Matt... tho there may be plans etc, folks often change and some of these career changes may not be planned, but more out of sense than otherwise (hopefully).

Did the college time and spent another 3 years at film school - only worked in the mainline media/entertainment industry for a few years and became self employed. But... it was worth the time spent at college in many other ways and sure don't regret it. But.. also never regretted being self-employed :winkwink:

Fap 04-12-2007 01:15 AM

Why didnt you tell me this BEFORE i paid the $60k tuition

BusterBunny 04-12-2007 01:16 AM

50........

SPACE GLIDER 04-15-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12240064)
He's a self made multi millionaire.. I was told he's in the billionaire club now, but I haven't talked to him in a few years

Ouch! That's the relative I'd be sure to keep in contact with

Fap 04-16-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12240064)
He's a self made multi millionaire.. I was told he's in the billionaire club now, but I haven't talked to him in a few years so I don't know if it's true or not. If he is I wouldn't doubt it, some of the stuff he's done amazes the hell out of me.

Ermm my uncle is well off to, a founder of ebay (sold for 500 mill), brought starbucks public (i got to meet Schultz at my uncle's wedding) and owns various other websites... :thumbsup

Although he never told the family to invest in either ebay or starbucks :(

Poon 04-16-2007 12:48 AM

college was a waste for me. I graduate with a degree in psychology, look for legit jobs, cant get hired for more than 26k, said fuck it and started selling porn. College degrees ( or maybe just psych degrees ) are bullshit

rotowa85 04-16-2007 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Poon (Post 12259899)
college was a waste for me. I graduate with a degree in psychology, look for legit jobs, cant get hired for more than 26k, said fuck it and started selling porn. College degrees ( or maybe just psych degrees ) are bullshit

you know what mate maybe if you had done a proper degree you wouldnt have had that problem, i mean a psyche degree are u taking the piss.

SPACE GLIDER 04-17-2007 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by banthis (Post 12259862)
Although he never told the family to invest in either ebay or starbucks :(

Well hell. Did he share the wealth at all?

Fresh_Designs 04-17-2007 02:10 AM

stop selling the guns to crazy people :(

Sexsitesurfer 04-17-2007 02:14 AM

Nothing wrong with a psychology degree... go in to HR or something!

KaliC 04-17-2007 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 12234585)
based on some magazine survey or bullshit ranking. Here's just one analysis of why some newspaper/magazines' school rankings aren't that good or trustworthy: http://www.stats.org/stories/college...y_aug28_06.htm

They are a business like any other, they care about making money off of you.


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