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RedShoe 04-14-2007 11:52 AM

good luck in finding him Shap.. now you gotta definitely keep us posted on his whereabouts.

Nasty 04-14-2007 12:02 PM

Shap, This is from a PI friend of mine, good luck

Obviously (unfortunately) it sounds like fowl play because of the groceries in the car - and the car still there, door open, the credit card, etc. Was the car door open too? Any blood at the scene? Anything that could have been used as a weapon - rock, pipe, bullet casings, drag marks.....

Does he live near the water? - I know it's an island, but how close to the water? Any footprints leading away from the house. Any lights on ? (like he actually went inside the house?) Was the car in the driveway or a garage or carport?

Does he have a girlfriend, wife, etc. any friends at all? anyone on the mainland? Have they checked with them, relatives, etc. Who was the last to see him? Is it an apartment or regular home. Any neighbors?

Anyone at work mad at him (someone who wanted promotion, etc. anyone fired lately by him, or because of him? )

Where was he going for the new promotion? Obviously he didn't leave with the door open and the groceries in the car voluntarily. Do you know if there was any blood on the scene? Did they dust for prints on the car and front door. Where the cards were used, are there cameras (almost every ATM has them) and if they were used for purchases, did they check with the people where the goods were purchased? WHERE was the card used? Was anyone else (wife, kid, girlfriend, etc.) on the card (someone else that could use it)?

What about a cell phone - does he have one? Did they check the cell and home phones for any calls?
Has anyone called the cell? Check at his office - look for a calendar with any meetings, etc. that he may have put down. Does he have a secretary? Who was the last person to see him on Tuesday.

Go to the grocery store where he got the groceries. did he pay with the same credit card or cash.

Was he despondent, have a bad breakup (wife, girlfriend, or "significant" other?
any financial problems?
Was the car his? or a rental, company car, etc. Has his company (the hotel) done anything to check out all this?

They need a good forensic person. Hell, I'd consider calling someone like Mark Ferman (OJ trial cop - he IS a good guy)

The FIRST thing is check the film at the banks to see if it was HIM making the withdrawls! Check with businesses around the bank and see if they have any surveillance cameras also.

I don't think it would do any good to check airlines, etc. My instincts say fowl play - from the circumstances.

Any recent criminal activity in the neighborhood?

After 24 hours - NOT a good sign. But if someone can check with the bank - does he have a substantial amount of $ in the account being used?

Alex 04-14-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB (Post 12252221)
Shap,

I am sorry to hear about this situation. I would search around the immediate area around his last assumed location - his car with his groceries. Look everywhere inside and outside the house and around that immediate area.

Next, if you can find the area of the first ATM withdrawl, go to that location and look for any clues. Be throrough, look everywhere you can think of.

Those are also excellent areas to post Missing flyers - maybe someone saw something. Knowing that you are doing everything you can may be of some comfort to you. I wish you well and hope he is found, safe and sound.

Mike

I am sure you are doing everything a P.I would do.

Sad to say, but you really cannot do much better than a P.I

Spunky 04-14-2007 12:55 PM

Doesn't sound good..probably murdered unfortunately :( Hopefully not but you hear about that happening all the time

rapmaster 04-14-2007 12:58 PM

I'd hire a press agent or someone who can get the story out and make it on the news... if he's alive that's probably your best shot

Shap 04-14-2007 01:03 PM

Great info Nasty. Thanks. Apparently the latest is the police have some stakeouts in place and may be close to getting the guys using his Atm card which would be a start.

Local media is finally going to run the story tonight. The support and fight of the ex-pats to find him is really starting to come together and hopefully help the cause.

rapmaster 04-14-2007 01:06 PM

Good luck with everything, I really wish you the best. It sounds like such a horrible situation, I hope they find him unharmed.

fuzebox 04-14-2007 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dveron (Post 12252421)
Possible kidnapping for ransom also. Does this guy have money or the company he works for have any kind of history on paying out ransoms?

That's what I was thinking also... Sounds like a kidnapping, I met a guy once who had been held a prisoner in colombia for almost a year while they drained all his accounts via ATMs and stuff... :(

GTS Mark 04-14-2007 02:53 PM

Ahhhh sorry to hear about this Shap, I really hope the authorities find him on a crazy drinking binge trip down in the exhumas instead of the latter more negative option.

Does he have family down in the Bahammas assisting the authorities. I think you should blow the lid off this affair and call City TV in Toronto. The Bahammians can't afford to be in the same light as Mexico right now so the media pressure will surely help the Bahammian authorities get their act in gear (if they aren't already).

Anyways I hope your friend comes home safe, money is inconsequential we can always make more...

DH

LiveDose 04-14-2007 02:58 PM

Personally I would hire outside investigators to cut through all the bureaucratic bs.:2 cents:

Axeman 04-15-2007 12:23 PM

Any further news on this Shap?

crockett 04-15-2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 12252189)
We are putting together a reward for him today actually.

What country is he a citizen of? I'd try to contact as many news agency's in that country of which he was a citizen of and try to get a ball rolling on a international story.

Sucks though, because it's a single male and he likely would be hard to get much interest. Good luck in finding your friend but doesn't sound too good to me sorry to say.

Anyway I'd try to contact as many news agency's as you can as I posted about and really play the "cover up" card as much as you can. Reporters seem to dig that kinda stuff.

Phoenix 04-15-2007 01:21 PM

private mercs is the answer.
find one person who might know something...and they can help you find the real people
best wishes for your friend

sherie 04-15-2007 01:40 PM

Yikes. Reading through this has me sorry that I even bothered to buy a time-share there. I had no clue that people were that bad off there...

Good luck with your search Shap and good luck to your friend :(

Shap 04-15-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie (Post 12257259)
Yikes. Reading through this has me sorry that I even bothered to buy a time-share there. I had no clue that people were that bad off there...

Good luck with your search Shap and good luck to your friend :(

Hi Sherie. It's just a matter of being smart and limiting your exposure to trouble. We've been here 5+ years without any problems at all :thumbsup


No update yet. Apparently they've arrested the girl on camera using his atm card. No further news yet.

cones 04-15-2007 02:12 PM

Holy shit sounds preety serious. Hope everything is ok for the guy Shap

notabook 04-15-2007 02:20 PM

Very sorry about all this man... if your friend was a hot teen blonde female you wouldn't have to do anything... ;(

Ssv 04-15-2007 02:30 PM

I hope everything turns out well


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