Montreal is in Canada, but they like pretend they aren't. :1orglaugh

It's a shame for all the parents who are waiting to hear if is was their child/ren who are among the casualites. I don't have any children but I can feel for these parents who are living out their worst nightmare.

Dont get me wrong. I believe that we all have a right to bear arms. But I do think that we should do the same thing with guns that we do with a car.
We dont just sell you a car and say go ahead and drive.
We make sure that you know the law and go though tests that say that you a deemed to be safe to use what could be a deadly machine in public.
WE should do the same with guns. Thats all I am saying. It will not stop all of this. but would cut down on it.

Latest news 29 dead. Biggest mass shooting in U.S. history. 7:15 this morning first shooting. One fatality at that point. Shooter then went to Norris hall, and then killed 20+. Shooter dead. Not all dead are students.

Maybe as much as 32 dead according to FBI.

Maybe an incident off campus that spilled onto the campus that led to shootings. All weapons were handguns, semi-automatic handguns.

One shooter, possibly the result of an off campus incident where a
shooting occured.

Police 'believe' not confirmed that the shooter took his own life.

Well said!

sure believe what you want

Imbecile, what about if nobody had a gun? Maybe not 32 people would have died? Can you imagine if all those kids had guns there what wouldve happened? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

God, you live in one fucked up fantasy world.

No telling who or what race the shooter is. Pins and needles as details come out.

32 dead now. :(

haha..


Shooting on the Virginia Tech campus leaves one dead and the shooter at large

At least one person is dead and up to nine more were wounded in two shootings this morning at Virginia Tech. Officials say a gunman has been arrested. (April 16)

In the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, officials at Virginia Tech say at least 25 are dead and many more are wounded after a gunman opened fire on campus. ABC News(the headlines say at least 29n dead)

to many confilcting stories. i could care less about any of it...so i'm done

As stated on page one, you don't know shit.

:1orglaugh

This is GFY, facts are made on the fly.

Oh, because you don't think so, it must be accurate.

They listen to people like Franck and Bryan.

Real tragedy.

If everyone had a gun MORE people would be dead, but the vast majority do not only not know how to fire a gun properly they also have bad aim. Not to mention the Dirty Harrys among them and people just firing hysterically.


Gun safety and maintenance? People don't even take those classes now? Even suggesting one should take a gun safety and maintenance course before getting gun will get the NRA is a hissy.

if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.

I'm the one in a fantasy world?

Just because the world doesn't run on your Lucky Charms cereal box logic you feel you can evaluate for others?

Here's a hint on reality: Have a gun, no need for one.

The U.S. is looking like Iraq.

what is out world coming to.

this country is out of control.

Franck you are a fucking idiot, you were easier to own then spacedog.

COMPLETE TOOL. :1orglaugh

Yes MORE bullets flying = LESS deaths. You earn retard of the day award. Take your gun and shoot yourself now.

Someday someone is likely to slap the taste out of your mouth....

You live in a very strange world.

But it is far more important to spend millions on stopping porn.

Without people like Franck, GatorB and PlatinumBryan there would be no victims in massacres like this. :2 cents:

That was a pretty stupid comment coming from someone I thought was somewhat intelligent.

What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?

Gun control is why this shit can happen. Can you imagine if this wasn't a "gun free" zone? Some of those students would have had their own guns. But since gun control laws prevented that, the good guys got shot. Bad guys don't obey gun control laws apparently.

so you think university students should be allowed to bring guns to class?? guns laws or not, that would never happen. thats just retarded.

granted, the shooter eventually has to reload, but there are probably not that many heroes willing to take one for the team while they wait for him to get to that point

Jesus H. Christ...

This is just unreal.

So then 30 people "take one for the team"?

Well, if the post by Anthony is accurate there were not 30 in one spot.

It was an American university, these kids are brainwashed into being non-violent pacifists, these poor kids probably had no clue what to do.

yes only way people could be killed in a school is with a gun. Take them all away and the children will be safe....


http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/as....02/index.html


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...killings_x.htm

http://www.sptimes.com/News/060801/W...s_four_a.shtml

Retard..

If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

Your Scottish right?

Only in America eh?

That was pretty much the reason I posted that comment. The sad truth, is CNN is loving this incident. Reporters have no morality. This is gold to them. The Imus story was dead 3 days after it happenned, yet they streched it for a week.

Why? Because people are sick of hearing yet another Iraq failure story. Now, CNN is foaming at the mouth with this new story. Weeks of shooting news, comparisons to Columbine, and other similar style shootings. By the evening, they'll have the perfect tagline for the tragedy, with a whole week of programming laid out, ensuring you do not miss one detail of this tragedy.

By July, the made for TV movie will be out.

Just plain sick what the media does.

Problem with a 9mm round is that they can 'travel' meaning
they go through one body and go through another and etc.

That was the argument years ago in NY when cops were wanting
9 millies instead of those .38s. .38 slug would knock a man down but
not always kill him. I've seen men hit with a .38 round, get up and
kick someone's ass or draw their own gun.

9mm rounds richochet too. The gunman had the element of surprise.

He may have shot most of his victims in the back. Not face to face
to see them suffer.

When people are that bunched up, a gunman with an automatic can
let off a clip in a matter of seconds. One's first instinct is to run or
hit the dirt.

Let's say he had 9 in the clip and 1 round chambered. That clip is
emptied in like 3 seconds. That's the problem with automatics.
You spend all day loading clips, go to the target range and in
a matter of a few minutes you've emptied the clips and are back
to loading them fuckers again.

This killer had a choice range of control. What his true motives
are will be the stuff that talk shows are made of.

Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

NOT EVERYONE is a coward.:2 cents:

disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.

wow this is horrible

You should be allowed ot have a gun if you are an adult. If not, then don't complain when a crazy guy shoots your unarmed masses.

Pandora's box has already been open, you can't stop the proliferation of firearms. By ensuring that citizens with the legal right to carry firearms has shown to be the biggest detriment to crime in the US.

Florida has a reciprocal CCW license with Virginia, if you pass backround tests, you will get a concealed permit (CCW). The laws are similliar, you cannot carry onto a school campus.

Which doesn't matter one bit to a physcho who decides he wants to shoot everyone dead.

Why do you think shootings happen in places that you can't carry a gun in to protect yourself?!

Schools
Goverment Buildings
Post Offices

No one there can shoot back.

even if guns were banned, people could still get then, drugs are banned - that didnt stop anyone

You don't own a gun and know how to use it right?

News says dude first went classroom to classroom shooting and killing. Then TWO FUCKING HOURS LATER he hits the other end of the campus???

WTF????

News says the campus has 28,000 students.

Says shooter is Asian-American.

See? I was right. The campus WAS on lockdown after first shooting causing the others to get bunched up says ABC news.

It's only a matter of time. It's ALWAYS only a matter of time. Gun laws or not, it'll happen again when someone REALLY wants to do it. At best it'll slow down the process.

Ask the person who proposed the law and I'll bet anything even THEY would admit that.

I'm not a coward, just because I don't own a gun does not make me less of a person.

You cannot carry a gun in a school or college unless you are a federal agent. So your theory is wrong.

And you've never been in that situation, every time something like this happens, everyone would of had a gun, everyone would have stopped him before he killed more etc etc.

I know how to use one just fine, I don't own one as I have no reason to.

School faculty should be required to have and know how to use non-lethal arms like tasers and such, matter of fact I think I am going to go to my local school board and propose this idea.

News now says Asian American male, looking for girlfriend who had broken up with him is reason for shootings.