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pornguy 04-16-2007 10:48 AM

But it is far more important to spend millions on stopping porn.

Splum 04-16-2007 10:49 AM

Without people like Franck, GatorB and PlatinumBryan there would be no victims in massacres like this. :2 cents:

baddog 04-16-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 12261852)
The U.S. is looking like Iraq.

what is out world coming to.

this country is out of control.

That was a pretty stupid comment coming from someone I thought was somewhat intelligent.

ChandieGirl 04-16-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xroach (Post 12261844)
if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.


What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?

scardog 04-16-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 12261429)
Think its about time for some gun contol in the US, fucking insane

Gun control is why this shit can happen. Can you imagine if this wasn't a "gun free" zone? Some of those students would have had their own guns. But since gun control laws prevented that, the good guys got shot. Bad guys don't obey gun control laws apparently.

BlackCrayon 04-16-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by scardog (Post 12261878)
Gun control is why this shit can happen. Can you imagine if this wasn't a "gun free" zone? Some of those students would have had their own guns. But since gun control laws prevented that, the good guys got shot. Bad guys don't obey gun control laws apparently.

so you think university students should be allowed to bring guns to class?? guns laws or not, that would never happen. thats just retarded.

baddog 04-16-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandiegirl (Post 12261879)
What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?

granted, the shooter eventually has to reload, but there are probably not that many heroes willing to take one for the team while they wait for him to get to that point

Anthony 04-16-2007 10:53 AM

Jesus H. Christ...

This is just unreal.

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The students and faculty were barricading themselves in their classrooms after what one person described as an Asian student wearing a vest opened fire.

The shooter was "wearing a vest covered in clips was just unloading on their door, going from classroom to classroom … they said it never seemed like it was going to stop and there was just blood all over," Harrison said.

ChandieGirl 04-16-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12261898)
granted, the shooter eventually has to reload, but there are probably not that many heroes willing to take one for the team while they wait for him to get to that point



So then 30 people "take one for the team"?

baddog 04-16-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandiegirl (Post 12261909)
So then 30 people "take one for the team"?

Well, if the post by Anthony is accurate there were not 30 in one spot.

Splum 04-16-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandiegirl (Post 12261879)
What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?

It was an American university, these kids are brainwashed into being non-violent pacifists, these poor kids probably had no clue what to do.

stickyfingerz 04-16-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12261601)
Just buy them a gun for self protection. Isnt this what everybody does in the first place and why there is a HUGE gun problem in the US?

yes only way people could be killed in a school is with a gun. Take them all away and the children will be safe....


http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/as....02/index.html


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...killings_x.htm

http://www.sptimes.com/News/060801/W...s_four_a.shtml

Retard..

»Rob Content« 04-16-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xroach (Post 12261844)
if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.


If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

stickyfingerz 04-16-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 12261796)
sure believe what you want

Your Scottish right?

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March 13, 1996 -- Dunblane, Scotland

Armed with four handguns, Thomas Hamilton entered an elementary school in the small Scottish town of Dunblane and killed 16 children, all ages 5 and 6, and a 44-year-old kindergarten teacher before killing himself. Eight other children and two adults were wounded in the attack.
Only in America eh?

Ravage 04-16-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12261539)
Note-I quoted the first line, because had this incident happened LAST week, Imus would probably still be employed, because the news coverage wouldn't have been there.

That was pretty much the reason I posted that comment. The sad truth, is CNN is loving this incident. Reporters have no morality. This is gold to them. The Imus story was dead 3 days after it happenned, yet they streched it for a week.

Why? Because people are sick of hearing yet another Iraq failure story. Now, CNN is foaming at the mouth with this new story. Weeks of shooting news, comparisons to Columbine, and other similar style shootings. By the evening, they'll have the perfect tagline for the tragedy, with a whole week of programming laid out, ensuring you do not miss one detail of this tragedy.

By July, the made for TV movie will be out.

Just plain sick what the media does.

DOCTOR 30 04-16-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandiegirl (Post 12261879)
What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?

Problem with a 9mm round is that they can 'travel' meaning
they go through one body and go through another and etc.

That was the argument years ago in NY when cops were wanting
9 millies instead of those .38s. .38 slug would knock a man down but
not always kill him. I've seen men hit with a .38 round, get up and
kick someone's ass or draw their own gun.

9mm rounds richochet too. The gunman had the element of surprise.

He may have shot most of his victims in the back. Not face to face
to see them suffer.

When people are that bunched up, a gunman with an automatic can
let off a clip in a matter of seconds. One's first instinct is to run or
hit the dirt.

Let's say he had 9 in the clip and 1 round chambered. That clip is
emptied in like 3 seconds. That's the problem with automatics.
You spend all day loading clips, go to the target range and in
a matter of a few minutes you've emptied the clips and are back
to loading them fuckers again.

This killer had a choice range of control. What his true motives
are will be the stuff that talk shows are made of.

Gregory Black 04-16-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12261929)
If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

NOT EVERYONE is a coward.:2 cents:

scottybuzz 04-16-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 12261456)
That will only affect law abiding citizens.. wackos and criminals always get their guns.. or their drugs which is illegal btw... Criminals in Brazil are having a good laugh about their gun control laws, nobody to shoot at them now.. lol

disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.

mattz 04-16-2007 11:02 AM

wow this is horrible

scardog 04-16-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12261894)
so you think university students should be allowed to bring guns to class?? guns laws or not, that would never happen. thats just retarded.


You should be allowed ot have a gun if you are an adult. If not, then don't complain when a crazy guy shoots your unarmed masses.

Anthony 04-16-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12261929)
If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

Pandora's box has already been open, you can't stop the proliferation of firearms. By ensuring that citizens with the legal right to carry firearms has shown to be the biggest detriment to crime in the US.

Florida has a reciprocal CCW license with Virginia, if you pass backround tests, you will get a concealed permit (CCW). The laws are similliar, you cannot carry onto a school campus.

Which doesn't matter one bit to a physcho who decides he wants to shoot everyone dead.

Why do you think shootings happen in places that you can't carry a gun in to protect yourself?!

Schools
Goverment Buildings
Post Offices

No one there can shoot back.

mattz 04-16-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12261955)
disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.

even if guns were banned, people could still get then, drugs are banned - that didnt stop anyone

scardog 04-16-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12261929)
If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

You don't own a gun and know how to use it right?

DOCTOR 30 04-16-2007 11:03 AM

News says dude first went classroom to classroom shooting and killing. Then TWO FUCKING HOURS LATER he hits the other end of the campus???

WTF????

News says the campus has 28,000 students.

Says shooter is Asian-American.

DOCTOR 30 04-16-2007 11:04 AM

See? I was right. The campus WAS on lockdown after first shooting causing the others to get bunched up says ABC news.

ronaldo 04-16-2007 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12261955)
disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.

It's only a matter of time. It's ALWAYS only a matter of time. Gun laws or not, it'll happen again when someone REALLY wants to do it. At best it'll slow down the process.

Ask the person who proposed the law and I'll bet anything even THEY would admit that.

»Rob Content« 04-16-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregory Black (Post 12261953)
Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

NOT EVERYONE is a coward.:2 cents:

I'm not a coward, just because I don't own a gun does not make me less of a person.

You cannot carry a gun in a school or college unless you are a federal agent. So your theory is wrong.

And you've never been in that situation, every time something like this happens, everyone would of had a gun, everyone would have stopped him before he killed more etc etc.

»Rob Content« 04-16-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scardog (Post 12261971)
You don't own a gun and know how to use it right?

I know how to use one just fine, I don't own one as I have no reason to.

Splum 04-16-2007 11:09 AM

School faculty should be required to have and know how to use non-lethal arms like tasers and such, matter of fact I think I am going to go to my local school board and propose this idea.

DOCTOR 30 04-16-2007 11:10 AM

News now says Asian American male, looking for girlfriend who had broken up with him is reason for shootings.

scottybuzz 04-16-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12261970)
even if guns were banned, people could still get then, drugs are banned - that didnt stop anyone

yeh i see the logic 100% there, but im going purely by statistics.

obviously england has a different culture thats not like americas one bit, but since guns have been banned there hasnt been one.

sure there has been gun crime, but no school shootings.

madawgz 04-16-2007 11:12 AM

damn this is fucked up :(

scottybuzz 04-16-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12262001)
At best it'll slow down the process.

i dont see any problem in that :2 cents:

it may only be a matter of time, but its best if its slowed down.

scardog 04-16-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12262015)
I know how to use one just fine, I don't own one as I have no reason to.

I don't really believe you. Do you mean point and pull the trigger? How much handgun training have you had? One class and you wouldn't make comments like people would start shooting each other when a crazy guy starts shooting them. If one of the 32 was a family member of yours, you probably wish they would have had a gun.

stickyfingerz 04-16-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12262034)
yeh i see the logic 100% there, but im going purely by statistics.

obviously england has a different culture thats not like americas one bit, but since guns have been banned there hasnt been one.

sure there has been gun crime, but no school shootings.

Hmm weren't you recently concerned about that prostitute killer in your area? ? hmmm

scardog 04-16-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12262034)
yeh i see the logic 100% there, but im going purely by statistics.

obviously england has a different culture thats not like americas one bit, but since guns have been banned there hasnt been one.

sure there has been gun crime, but no school shootings.


Would you bet a million dollars that that there will not ever be another one, thanks to the law? Would you bet your life on it? The governments sure are willing to bet our lives on it.

Bryan G 04-16-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12261933)
Your Scottish right?



Only in America eh?

When did I say it was ONLY in America?? not once.

Anthony 04-16-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scardog (Post 12262050)
I don't really believe you. Do you mean point and pull the trigger? How much handgun training have you had? One class and you wouldn't make comments like people would start shooting each other when a crazy guy starts shooting them. If one of the 32 was a family member of yours, you probably wish they would have had a gun.

It's not even worth arguing scardog, he won't listen.

If anyone person in any of those classes had a firearm, they would have made a difference. Bottom line.

Legally, a law abiding citizen cannot carry a firearm on campus.

Which makes everyone an easy target.

ronaldo 04-16-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12262047)
i dont see any problem in that :2 cents:

it may only be a matter of time, but its best if its slowed down.

Absolutely, I agree. But your statement came across as if it wasn't EVER going to happen again...which simply isn't true.

beemk 04-16-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 12261610)
Tell me why Mass Genocide seems to happen mostly in Africa.

Is there a difference, really?

People are getting killed everywhere.

It doesn't seem that too long ago Tornoto had senseless shootings, was it on Boxing day, if I remember right?

these idiots only know about stuff that happens on the news. plus they are envious of usa, not africa. so why hate on africa?


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