they have too.. background checks and other methods..

Since High School? Last year?

You have no clue, keep pressing your country's values on ours, we'll remember it when we invade for your country's oil and fresh water.

We definately have to worry about the populace having the right or power to defend themselves, unless you are a Paki, Nammer, or Chink gang member.

OK,,, I will go slowly ....

This is in relation to post of Beejeebers:

So, you read that post. Good. Read it again.

Now, under these premises, even if a gun control law was in place, this shooting would have still happened because guns would still have been available, so NO POINT in having a law to that effect.

So, since drugs are readily available everywhere , even tough there IS a law, what is the point of having that law ...

Now, read again : no constitution talking, no first amendment ... just the fucking post.
I understand that some here like to either twist the thruth or refer to what THEY think they understand, but that has no bearing on the post.

Are you mentally retarded?

This is a thread on USA Gun Laws. Your shit is weak, so I should have expected strawman arguments, but damn you take being a moron to the limit.

I read it perfectly fine.

Drugs are illegal. Guns are not to the populace that pass their backround checks.

How hard is that?

Making guns illegal to the US Populace is illegal and protected by our 2nd Amendment.

Drugs are not, and are ILLEGAL by law.

Saying make drugs legal is fucking stupid, at best in this debate.

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ask your dog ... maybe he is able of reasoning....

It's threads like this that show how dumb some american really are.

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I would, but your Mom was busy drinking out the toilet bowl to answer.

last time i checked, americas values was above all else freedom. Freedom doesn't include being in a fox hole looking down a barrel of a gun.

Because you can't understand what i'm trying to tell you, you threaten and wish that you could invade Canada? One of the few friends your country has left? you tell ME that i just got out of highschool?

How's the gun laws in Brasil?

Really slowed down crime, and people getting shot, eh?

Its not just Canadians retard,

weak? you haven't refuted, or recognized, any of my arguments. you don't know my points other than what i've fed this little hissy fit.

your insults only reflect you.

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what about torture, censorship, or any of the other "illegal" acts that require morals to get tossed out the window as soon as it's convenient? this is the first time everyone would applaud you breaking a 'law', and god forbid!

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You have no clue, keep pressing your country's values on ours, we'll remember it when we invade for your country's oil and fresh water.

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Americas answer to everything

Red Herring. Look it up.

[QUOTE=Platinum Bryan;12274747]Thank you for taking the bait.

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sir, honestly, i would be interested in any point you had to say..

but now, couldn't be bothered. You tried reason, then you tried insults, now your trying rhetoric.

If you stuck with reason, and used yours, it would have been fine.

but now.. you're just an example.

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What can I say, I'm bored today, and Splum ran off after starting this thread. :)

The second amendment was designed to get an army quickly and too help protect people during the revolution, the second amendment is a preotection in time of war on U.S. soil.. Not for just carrying one because you like it.

An the war on terror does not count as a war on U.S. soil.

Burgers can't wait... they need to be flipped.
Ask Yan

Are people capable of making a valid argument here? Talking about drugs and the first amendment (when they really meant the second, or maybe they don't even know which one it is). What's the point? Comparing apples to oranges? give me a break, that's not even all that good an analogy considering they are both fruit, they are both round, they both weigh about the same and they both serve the same social purpose; in fact the only significant difference between the two seems to be their colour and the fact that nothing rhymes with orange. This is basically the perfect medium for a debate because you can take as long as you want to formulate your response; yet people just come back by calling someone a retard if they don't agree with their opinion.
For me if you want to see why everyone is so close minded, take a look at gfy because no one here even really reads a post before replying, and they could care less what others think. Instead what could be an interesting exchange quickly turns into useless dribble. Someone said that the FBI or the government trolls this board; I am starting to doubt that because it assumes that they even care what is said here, which I am almost certain they do not (or if they do, those people probably have a hard time justifying their position at whatever organization they work for).

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Maybe you should stop compairing direct number with a country that has 10x the population, and where the cities are more then 2x as densly populated.

Per capita there are almost more gun deaths in Canada then the USA, when you take into account that the US is much more densely populated you would expect more violent gun crimes as there is more conflict.

The Canadian guns laws are the biggest waste of 4 billion dollars EVER!
Trying to control legally owned guns even more is just silly, criminals STILL dont give a shit about laws, so making the laws tighter only effects law abiding citizens.

You can get many DE guns, just not the short barreled ones.

People make guns to be a much bigger deal then it really is. Sure the UK gets along fine without guns, could use some better bomb control though...

The fact that there really isnt any hunting in the UK is a reason for less guns. But really, Shooting is a hobby for lots. There are sanctioned competitions all over the place for many different types of shooting.
Less people are killed and injured in Shooting (as a sport) then chearleading. Maybe we should ban chearleading.


There are many more knife deaths and injuries then gun deaths and injuries in Canada, the US, and the UK, yet no where has any real knife control laws. Should be ban people from buying knifes too?
The actual stats show stabbings are almost 3x more likely then shootings.

Bullshit, prove it. Every time i talk about this i am talking about per capita. Also stabbings are more often than not, non fatal.

Stabbing, shooting, what's the difference?

You are attempting to kill someone. Whether the attempt is fatal or not, the intent is the same.

Damnit Brad, stop.

Making sense on GFY is just plain wrong. :)

So standing 10 feet away from somene and pulling a trigger is the same as the bloody mess that you have to be less than 1-2 feet away from the person to commit? Also i don't need a gun to cut up my carrots.

To me this proves the "if you have it you'll use it" theory. Most likely more people have knives than guns and therefore it follows that they are used more. The thing with knives is that they serve a purpose beyond stabbing and slashing people; where as guns serve only limited purpose - obviously being to kill or wound someone(if you are carrying a gun in the general public). Not to mention it is easier to conceal a knife than a gun and they are easier to access too (I became an expert in operating a knife while working at a camping store when in university...I guarantee that I can get my knife open and out of my pocket before a potential shooter could draw his gun). Moreover, a knife is more effective at close range. So it makes sense that knives are responsible for more deaths than guns. That said, a knife is never really going to be a mass murderers choice of weapon because it is too intimate. And those are the people that start these debates, not the guy who killed one person. The fact remains that guns are more dangerous than knives and they serve a more narrow purpose than a knife and therefore as a society I think we need to look into this problem.

haha, you have got me there Anthony.

I think that calls for a touché. :winkwink:

I just think he quicker they have gun control the better

It takes a really sick individual to look their victim in the eyes when they stab them, feel their blook soaking the hand holding the knife, and knowing up front that they are taking a life. It definately is easier with a gun. That's why it was created.

While both are spatially diverse, they both can accomplish the same thing, killing someone.

I don't use any of my guns to cut up carrots either, they weren't created for that. Knives have multiple uses, but at the end of the day, it can be used to take a life.

You dreaming again Splum???? Wot culture??? *lol*

The phrase "a well regulated militia" is kind of deceiving because it has a different meaning in the 21st century than it did in the 18th. The word "regulated" doesn't quite mean the same thing, and a "militia" is defined in the U.S. Code as males over 17.

Mmmm.. not quite accurate jeffrey :-) The US has more gun deaths than Canada, the EU in total and Japan grouped together.

Murder by guns is over five times higher in the US than in Canada.

Great retort.

There are some bars in BC, Canada, that say on the door, "No Knives" allowed.

When I went through training with my firearm in the early 90's for the goverment, it was always against an assailant with an edge weapon before we went into fire fights. A knife can be pulled out and used within 15 feet faster than I can pull out of a holster and fire. It's actually quite scary.

At the point in our society, we cannot ban the guns. In another thread regarding guns, D posted an excellent breakdown on guns and the American Pysche. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=11

This is a problem where the solution is out of our grasp.

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You are right my bad, Canada doesnt have a culture. :thumbsup

You cannucks are some loud mouthed motherfuckers arent you? I can see why, its gotta be fucking absolutely boring up there. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ya its really boring up here nothing going on in Toronto. Nothing at all. Another shining example of how brilliant you are. Cheers for that!

Na... yet again you got it wrong. You are an obvious joke to be even using the word culture - living proof there is no culture in the US :winkwink:

I suppose many Canadians like to talk about US social issues like this one because such issues are often part and parcel with our own similar problems in Canada. The USA has a huge effect on Canada in certain ways, and what happens in the US and what major changes might be instituted does often affect Canada and Canadians.

As for THIS Canadian, I have always supported the right to bear arms and one's right to own a firearm for protection. I don't presently own one but I would like to think that if I ever again decide to get one that I can.

I may one day buy a house in a rural community or a cabin and live there full time, and if so I will certainly be wanting to keep a firearm or two on the premises. For one thing you never know when a bear will come around and get violent on your front door. Some of you might be content to try and shoo away a pissed off 400 lb bear with a pushbroom but not me.

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you'll be happy to know, as a canadian, that you'll be able to have one when you move into that log cabin of yours! thanks!

R

I've always had this problem with the wildlife CDS :) May not be a bear, but big cats (jaguars etc) have a tendency to get violent on the front door when ya don't answer it :pimp

lol thanks for a good laugh but gun control would do absolutly NOTHING, hey drugs are banned what good did that do except make the problem a lot worse. If guns are banned in America, their will still be a way for the average person to get one

Ya, I know I can get one, but the laws they have in place are so strict that it makes it not even worth the effort. They basically regulate all the fun out of it. I own lots of farm land, if I were to buy a handgun I can't even go outside and shoot it. I have to go to a gun range that allows restricted weapons. I think the closest one is an hour away.

Pretty stupid, considering I can go outside and legally shoot off one of my rifles, which would most likely still be lethal to my neighbour if I decided to pop one off towards his front door, unlike the handguns.

Good point. If a person really wants something they will find a way to get it. It is so easy to find drugs here. If they did put more restrictions on guns here, people will just buy them illegally. It is not like it would be hard to do. As for Canada, a lot of Americans order their drugs without a perscription from a doctor from your online pharmacies. So maybe you guys should worry about that. Your country is allowing people to buy drugs illegally and then mail it to the US. I see these websites on the internet all the time. I guess it is ok to just hand out drugs to people freely, but god forbid we have guns over here.

ok i am a canadian who believes that there should not be any additional gun control laws simply because so far there has not been a single gun death that would not have been prevented by enforcing the laws currently on the books.

Jane, most of those "Canadian pharmacies" are located in India and various Caribbean islands.

Perhaps you would like to spend a moment reviewing Canadian versus US crime stats regarding violent crimes with weapons?

Anyway, I would rather than we hand medication to people to make them health instead of giving them a way to kill their classmates and neighbors.

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