so i mistakenly add "that", and it screwed up your reading comprehension?

very good.. "glass houses". I believe i've mentioned where a good junk of illegal and unregistered guns come from.

furthermore, i don't think i've ever said "we're better" or "we don't have gun violence here".

What i see, is people crying, asking why, and on the SAME breath, "it's my constitutional RIGHT to bear arms". Frankly, you already have two.. should be enough.

get... off... state sponsored... medeia

stay out ... this is way above your mental capabilities :2 cents:

The operative word being "dead" :thumbsup

..and still not seeing the logic here. Gun related deaths in the US off the scale compared to UK (and other western countries) yet your solution is for more guns and for everyone to be 'packing' (damn I love talking yankee!). I mean so far its not really working for you is it?

Y A W N.

Thanks.

Please, I saw more illegal guns and shootings in Vancouver than I have Fort Lauderdale.

But I guess they don't matter because East Indians, Nammers and Chinks don't count in Vancouver.

He has a point.

We are allowed by our Consittution to bear arms.

The strawman argument of drugs being illegal, has no bearing in this thread.

Comparing apples to oranges.

"y a w n"? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I haven't seen or heard anyone do that since highschool.. thanks for the laugh

Yea, shootings in Vancouver.. very good, one of two canadian ports on the pacific rim. you got me there.. :1orglaugh

good luck with your justification campaign... i'm still laughing at your statement of my not reading your posts.. considering :)

Do they not do background checks in the US before issuing guns? I'm just curious why people that clearly have a history of mental illness can still obtain guns legally?

Also, wasn't the right the bare arms implemented when people were firing off muscats? lol

Is it really necessary to have machine guns and assault rifles on city streets anywhere in the world?

actually we should.. you seem pretty "gunho :1orglaugh " about your right to bare arms..

whats your opinion on freedom of speech, right to representation, you know.. everything that is actually worth a damn on the 'precious' document?

you say apples to oranges.. but in reality, you're making quite the joke on yourself

Yes, what the fuck is the point of owning guns anyway?
personal defence? dont fool yourself

they have too.. background checks and other methods..

Since High School? Last year?

You have no clue, keep pressing your country's values on ours, we'll remember it when we invade for your country's oil and fresh water.

We definately have to worry about the populace having the right or power to defend themselves, unless you are a Paki, Nammer, or Chink gang member.

OK,,, I will go slowly ....

This is in relation to post of Beejeebers:

So, you read that post. Good. Read it again.

Now, under these premises, even if a gun control law was in place, this shooting would have still happened because guns would still have been available, so NO POINT in having a law to that effect.

So, since drugs are readily available everywhere , even tough there IS a law, what is the point of having that law ...

Now, read again : no constitution talking, no first amendment ... just the fucking post.
I understand that some here like to either twist the thruth or refer to what THEY think they understand, but that has no bearing on the post.

Are you mentally retarded?

This is a thread on USA Gun Laws. Your shit is weak, so I should have expected strawman arguments, but damn you take being a moron to the limit.

I read it perfectly fine.

Drugs are illegal. Guns are not to the populace that pass their backround checks.

How hard is that?

Making guns illegal to the US Populace is illegal and protected by our 2nd Amendment.

Drugs are not, and are ILLEGAL by law.

Saying make drugs legal is fucking stupid, at best in this debate.

:1orglaugh

ask your dog ... maybe he is able of reasoning....

It's threads like this that show how dumb some american really are.

:2 cents:

I would, but your Mom was busy drinking out the toilet bowl to answer.

last time i checked, americas values was above all else freedom. Freedom doesn't include being in a fox hole looking down a barrel of a gun.

Because you can't understand what i'm trying to tell you, you threaten and wish that you could invade Canada? One of the few friends your country has left? you tell ME that i just got out of highschool?

How's the gun laws in Brasil?

Really slowed down crime, and people getting shot, eh?

Its not just Canadians retard,

weak? you haven't refuted, or recognized, any of my arguments. you don't know my points other than what i've fed this little hissy fit.

your insults only reflect you.

:thumbsup

what about torture, censorship, or any of the other "illegal" acts that require morals to get tossed out the window as soon as it's convenient? this is the first time everyone would applaud you breaking a 'law', and god forbid!

[QUOTE=Anthony;12274570]



You have no clue, keep pressing your country's values on ours, we'll remember it when we invade for your country's oil and fresh water.

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Americas answer to everything

Red Herring. Look it up.

[QUOTE=Platinum Bryan;12274747]Thank you for taking the bait.

:1orglaugh

sir, honestly, i would be interested in any point you had to say..

but now, couldn't be bothered. You tried reason, then you tried insults, now your trying rhetoric.

If you stuck with reason, and used yours, it would have been fine.

but now.. you're just an example.

[QUOTE=Platinum Bryan;12274747]:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What can I say, I'm bored today, and Splum ran off after starting this thread. :)

The second amendment was designed to get an army quickly and too help protect people during the revolution, the second amendment is a preotection in time of war on U.S. soil.. Not for just carrying one because you like it.

An the war on terror does not count as a war on U.S. soil.

Burgers can't wait... they need to be flipped.
Ask Yan

Are people capable of making a valid argument here? Talking about drugs and the first amendment (when they really meant the second, or maybe they don't even know which one it is). What's the point? Comparing apples to oranges? give me a break, that's not even all that good an analogy considering they are both fruit, they are both round, they both weigh about the same and they both serve the same social purpose; in fact the only significant difference between the two seems to be their colour and the fact that nothing rhymes with orange. This is basically the perfect medium for a debate because you can take as long as you want to formulate your response; yet people just come back by calling someone a retard if they don't agree with their opinion.
For me if you want to see why everyone is so close minded, take a look at gfy because no one here even really reads a post before replying, and they could care less what others think. Instead what could be an interesting exchange quickly turns into useless dribble. Someone said that the FBI or the government trolls this board; I am starting to doubt that because it assumes that they even care what is said here, which I am almost certain they do not (or if they do, those people probably have a hard time justifying their position at whatever organization they work for).

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Maybe you should stop compairing direct number with a country that has 10x the population, and where the cities are more then 2x as densly populated.

Per capita there are almost more gun deaths in Canada then the USA, when you take into account that the US is much more densely populated you would expect more violent gun crimes as there is more conflict.

The Canadian guns laws are the biggest waste of 4 billion dollars EVER!
Trying to control legally owned guns even more is just silly, criminals STILL dont give a shit about laws, so making the laws tighter only effects law abiding citizens.

You can get many DE guns, just not the short barreled ones.

People make guns to be a much bigger deal then it really is. Sure the UK gets along fine without guns, could use some better bomb control though...

The fact that there really isnt any hunting in the UK is a reason for less guns. But really, Shooting is a hobby for lots. There are sanctioned competitions all over the place for many different types of shooting.
Less people are killed and injured in Shooting (as a sport) then chearleading. Maybe we should ban chearleading.


There are many more knife deaths and injuries then gun deaths and injuries in Canada, the US, and the UK, yet no where has any real knife control laws. Should be ban people from buying knifes too?
The actual stats show stabbings are almost 3x more likely then shootings.

Bullshit, prove it. Every time i talk about this i am talking about per capita. Also stabbings are more often than not, non fatal.

Stabbing, shooting, what's the difference?

You are attempting to kill someone. Whether the attempt is fatal or not, the intent is the same.

Damnit Brad, stop.

Making sense on GFY is just plain wrong. :)

So standing 10 feet away from somene and pulling a trigger is the same as the bloody mess that you have to be less than 1-2 feet away from the person to commit? Also i don't need a gun to cut up my carrots.

To me this proves the "if you have it you'll use it" theory. Most likely more people have knives than guns and therefore it follows that they are used more. The thing with knives is that they serve a purpose beyond stabbing and slashing people; where as guns serve only limited purpose - obviously being to kill or wound someone(if you are carrying a gun in the general public). Not to mention it is easier to conceal a knife than a gun and they are easier to access too (I became an expert in operating a knife while working at a camping store when in university...I guarantee that I can get my knife open and out of my pocket before a potential shooter could draw his gun). Moreover, a knife is more effective at close range. So it makes sense that knives are responsible for more deaths than guns. That said, a knife is never really going to be a mass murderers choice of weapon because it is too intimate. And those are the people that start these debates, not the guy who killed one person. The fact remains that guns are more dangerous than knives and they serve a more narrow purpose than a knife and therefore as a society I think we need to look into this problem.

haha, you have got me there Anthony.

I think that calls for a touché. :winkwink: