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JaneB 04-18-2007 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12275877)
Jane, most of those "Canadian pharmacies" are located in India and various Caribbean islands.

Perhaps you would like to spend a moment reviewing Canadian versus US crime stats regarding violent crimes with weapons?

Anyway, I would rather than we hand medication to people to make them health instead of giving them a way to kill their classmates and neighbors.

You don't even know if these people need the drugs. You don't have to have a doctor's perscription. So if I wanted to buy some Valium for the hell of it, I could. I could buy Prozac, Paxil, Xanax, etc. Giving drugs to people that do not need them is not helping them. It is helping them to start an addiction, and giving them a place to keep buying the drugs. Fuck, that is worse then the gun issue. Plus I looked at the addresses on some of these websites, they are located in Canada, not the other countries you listed.

Crime also happens when people are on drugs. Your country allowing anyone to buy drugs does not help this issue.

LiveDose 04-18-2007 02:58 PM
I love my guns and will never give them up...

Kevsh 04-18-2007 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12274012)
In all these "gun control" threads today I see a bunch of Canadians telling American citizens that America should ban guns. Its fucking cracking me up.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
That's probably because Canadians and the majority of the world scratch our heads wondering why you haven't woken up yet?

:upsidedow

FetishTom 04-18-2007 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12275741)
lol thanks for a good laugh but gun control would do absolutly NOTHING,
Except in countries with gun control you have a much lower gun death ratio so...kind of makes you wonder what would happen if they did introduce tighter controls because as I said previously the current situation is really not working for you is it?

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hey drugs are banned what good did that do except make the problem a lot worse.
Well drugs induce a chemical dependancy whereas guns, at least last time I looked, do not I mean crackwhores yes....WaltherPPKwhores no

Plus when was the last time a gun toting NRA supporter came out in favour of legalising drugs? Like you going to get good old Charlton Heston waving a syringe around and saying 'out of my cold dead hands'

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If guns are banned in America, their will still be a way for the average person to get one
Now this is the kicker why does your average American want a gun? Seriously why? Why do you want to carry, hold, possess, own something which has only one purpose namely to kill people? The civilised western world by and large gets along quite well without feeling the need to arm themselves against their fellow citizens. Yet in the US you feel the opposite. Your wish is granted and you end up with the highest gun death ratio in the western world. And yet you ban fireworks in case they hurt people. Like duh!?

_Richard_ 04-18-2007 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12275886)
Mexicans don't wear sweaters
left field! but i'm sure one or two do.. what are you getting at? sorry..

JaneB 04-18-2007 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FetishTom (Post 12275943)
Except in countries with gun control you have a much lower gun death ratio so...kind of makes you wonder what would happen if they did introduce tighter controls because as I said previously the current situation is really not working for you is it?



Well drugs induce a chemical dependancy whereas guns, at least last time I looked, do not I mean crackwhores yes....WaltherPPKwhores no

Plus when was the last time a gun toting NRA supporter came out in favour of legalising drugs? Like you going to get good old Charlton Heston waving a syringe around and saying 'out of my cold dead hands'



Now this is the kicker why does your average American want a gun? Seriously why? Why do you want to carry, hold, possess, own something which has only one purpose namely to kill people? The civilised western world by and large gets along quite well without feeling the need to arm themselves against their fellow citizens. Yet in the US you feel the opposite. Your wish is granted and you end up with the highest gun death ratio in the western world. And yet you ban fireworks in case they hurt people. Like duh!?


First off we do not say "like Duh". So please do not try and talk like an American, you sound stupid. Secondly if people over here want a gun it is none of your business, you do not live here. So really you should worry about your countries own problems. Canadians need to worry about their own issues such as health care. Then you would not need to come over to the US and have your medical procedures done because you are on a two year waiting list.

FetishTom 04-18-2007 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 12275982)
First off we do not say "like Duh". So please do not try and talk like an American, you sound stupid. Secondly if people over here want a gun it is none of your business, you do not live here. So really you should worry about your countries own problems. Canadians need to worry about their one issues such as health care. Then you would not need to come over to the US and have your medical procedures done because you are on a two year waiting list.
Well you could at least have had a stab at answering one of my points. And as I am not Canadian nor live in Canada or even actually ever been to Canada not entirely sure why you dragged in the Canadian Health service or indeed why I should worry about it

Anyway back to my points...

jeffrey 04-18-2007 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12275164)
Mmmm.. not quite accurate jeffrey :-) The US has more gun deaths than Canada, the EU in total and Japan grouped together.
Suicide by firearm accounts for almost 17k deaths in the US.
Most stats I see keep the sicides in.
I believe that its close to half the total deaths by firearm in the US.
Japan has very strict gun laws, (or maybe its china), strict enough that it should mean there is zero gun deaths, but thats not the case at all.

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Originally Posted by evildick (Post 12275830)
Ya, I know I can get one, but the laws they have in place are so strict that it makes it not even worth the effort. They basically regulate all the fun out of it. I own lots of farm land, if I were to buy a handgun I can't even go outside and shoot it. I have to go to a gun range that allows restricted weapons. I think the closest one is an hour away.

Pretty stupid, considering I can go outside and legally shoot off one of my rifles, which would most likely still be lethal to my neighbour if I decided to pop one off towards his front door, unlike the handguns.
Ya and putting a magazine limit of 10 rounds doesnt make any sence, make the people that follow the law only have 10 rounds, but let the criminals take 30 seconds to take the plug out and have a full capacity mag. Not all that logical.

And ya, I dont get how you cant shoot a pistol on private land even. I can take my high powered rifles that are acculate to 1000 meters (not always with me shooting though) and shoot them from the view of busy roads, but I cant take a .22 pistol into a secluded area and play around with it.

RawAlex 04-18-2007 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 12275908)
You don't even know if these people need the drugs. You don't have to have a doctor's perscription. So if I wanted to buy some Valium for the hell of it, I could. I could buy Prozac, Paxil, Xanax, etc. Giving drugs to people that do not need them is not helping them. It is helping them to start an addiction, and giving them a place to keep buying the drugs. Fuck, that is worse then the gun issue. Plus I looked at the addresses on some of these websites, they are located in Canada, not the other countries you listed.

Crime also happens when people are on drugs. Your country allowing anyone to buy drugs does not help this issue.
To quote Saturday night live "Jane, you ignorant sl-t".

1) You cannot legally obtain medicine in Canada without a prescription.
2) A prescription from a US doctor is acceptable.
3) So what? Please give me a list of all deaths in the US because some poor uninsured american purchased drugs with their doctor's prescription from Canada (answer, well, none that I am aware of).

The risks of drugs is the same in the US and Canada. You are attempting to divert the discussion away from the American's total blind love of personal killing machines, and turn it into a debate about americans being forced to come to Canada for medication because your government spends too much time protecting gun owners and not enough time protecting the sick and the elderly.

Wow. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Let me guess. You own a gun, right? Thought so.

RawAlex 04-18-2007 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 12276196)
Suicide by firearm accounts for almost 17k deaths in the US.
Most stats I see keep the sicides in.
I believe that its close to half the total deaths by firearm in the US.
Japan has very strict gun laws, (or maybe its china), strict enough that it should mean there is zero gun deaths, but thats not the case at all.
Japan has such strict gun laws that the resent assassination of a town mayor at the hands of a Yukaza (mob) leader was pretty much worldwide news. Gun crime is very, very low in Japan.

Suicides? They got plenty. But you can kill yourself with drain cleaner, car exhaust, or, hell, too much water (see hold your wee for a wii contest). If people want to die, or want to kill someone, they will find a way.

However, in the current circumstance, you can be pretty sure that this student would not have been able to kill 32 people and wound countless others with a hunting knife or a bottle of drain cleaner.

Guns have two purposes. Killing people or making them think you are going to kill them. There are no other uses for a handgun that I am aware of. The world would be a better place without them.

BlackCrayon 04-18-2007 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12276481)
To quote Saturday night live "Jane, you ignorant sl-t".

1) You cannot legally obtain medicine in Canada without a prescription.
2) A prescription from a US doctor is acceptable.
3) So what? Please give me a list of all deaths in the US because some poor uninsured american purchased drugs with their doctor's prescription from Canada (answer, well, none that I am aware of).

The risks of drugs is the same in the US and Canada. You are attempting to divert the discussion away from the American's total blind love of personal killing machines, and turn it into a debate about americans being forced to come to Canada for medication because your government spends too much time protecting gun owners and not enough time protecting the sick and the elderly.

Wow. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Let me guess. You own a gun, right? Thought so.
yep, jane can't be too bright. because some spam site has a canadian address listed it must be coming from canada, lol.

JaneB 04-18-2007 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12276721)
yep, jane can't be too bright. because some spam site has a canadian address listed it must be coming from canada, lol.
You are not that bright. I was not referring to spam e-mails moron. It is easy to find the pharmacies online that are in Canada selling prescription drugs without a doctor's prescription. It is from Canada, so maybe you show know what you are talking about before you open your uneducated mouth. Anyone with a brain knows Canada sells drugs like candy.

Splum 04-18-2007 06:06 PM
I guess Canadians cant fucking read either, I said SHUT THE FUCK UP about USA gun control. No American really CARES what the fuck you cannucks have to say.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

JaneB 04-18-2007 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12276481)
To quote Saturday night live "Jane, you ignorant sl-t".

1) You cannot legally obtain medicine in Canada without a prescription.
2) A prescription from a US doctor is acceptable.
3) So what? Please give me a list of all deaths in the US because some poor uninsured american purchased drugs with their doctor's prescription from Canada (answer, well, none that I am aware of).

The risks of drugs is the same in the US and Canada. You are attempting to divert the discussion away from the American's total blind love of personal killing machines, and turn it into a debate about americans being forced to come to Canada for medication because your government spends too much time protecting gun owners and not enough time protecting the sick and the elderly.

Wow. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Let me guess. You own a gun, right? Thought so.


Wow you must be really old to know that line from SNL. That was over 25 years ago. I did answer your question. I also don't see why you care if you do not live in the USA. What goes on here is not your concern. If we love our guns, so be it. If you don't like it, don't come here. The gun laws are not going to change anytime soon. I highly doubt anyone in this thread is going to solve the gun control issue. Fighting about it on here is really stupid.

You are also wrong on the way to get drugs. There are plenty of sites online that are in Canada that do not require a doctor's prescription. So yes, can can legally obtain drugs from Canada without a prescription. They are not hard to find online if you actually look.

JaneB 04-18-2007 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12276925)
I guess Canadians cant fucking read either, I said SHUT THE FUCK UP about USA gun control. No American really CARES what the fuck you cannucks have to say.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Not only that but they really think that you have to have a prescription to get drugs from their online pharmacies. Shit everyone here knows that is not that case. They have a lot of sites that you need no prescription to get any kind of drugs you want. We may love guns, but they are the drug dealers of the world. LOL

Spunky 04-18-2007 06:14 PM
Who the fuck cares,I'm Canadian and if you guys want to blow yourselves away,go for it.Keep your fucking guns to yourselves and stop smuggling that shit into our country.

Splum 04-18-2007 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 12276978)
Keep your fucking guns to yourselves and stop smuggling that shit into our country.
Stop buying them. :2 cents:

JaneB 04-18-2007 06:33 PM
Listen people all this fighting is stupid. It is going to solve nothing. I really do not think the issue is gun control. Honestly guns don't kill. The people holding them do. If they try to change the gun laws here people will bitch. Americans are used to having guns, and they will not allow a change to the law without a fight.

directfiesta 04-18-2007 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 12276908)
You are not that bright. I was not referring to spam e-mails moron. It is easy to find the pharmacies online that are in Canada selling prescription drugs without a doctor's prescription. It is from Canada, so maybe you show know what you are talking about before you open your uneducated mouth. Anyone with a brain knows Canada sells drugs like candy.
How about a link . Could end that discussion fast :2 cents:

directfiesta 04-18-2007 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 12276978)
Who the fuck cares,I'm Canadian and if you guys want to blow yourselves away,go for it.

I'll even throw in free ammo .....

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 12276978)
Keep your fucking guns to yourselves and stop smuggling that shit into our country.
.. and kill only americans.

Problem solved :thumbsup

Splum 04-18-2007 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12277159)
I'll even throw in free ammo ....... and kill only americans. Problem solved :thumbsup
Whats this? A liberal ATTEMPTing to be tough? Thats like BoyAlley trying to thwap his boyfriend. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cones 04-18-2007 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12274012)
In all these "gun control" threads today I see a bunch of Canadians telling American citizens that America should ban guns. Its fucking cracking me up.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
I am an Aussie and THANK FUCK we don't have guns on our streets and in our homes.

Keep your guns, don't ban them and enjoy.

RawAlex 04-18-2007 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 12276978)
Who the fuck cares,I'm Canadian and if you guys want to blow yourselves away,go for it.Keep your fucking guns to yourselves and stop smuggling that shit into our country.
The only thing americans have sent to Canada in the last 10 years have been guns and street gangs. You can have them both back.

Brad 04-19-2007 07:10 AM
I hesitate to get back into this debate/clown show. But Jane, what the hell girl. This is a conversation about guns, not drugs. Drugs are to Guns as Cats are to Satelites. Keep the guns, enjoy your bush and have fun.

sherie 04-19-2007 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 12275858)
Good point. If a person really wants something they will find a way to get it. It is so easy to find drugs here. If they did put more restrictions on guns here, people will just buy them illegally. It is not like it would be hard to do. As for Canada, a lot of Americans order their drugs without a perscription from a doctor from your online pharmacies. So maybe you guys should worry about that. Your country is allowing people to buy drugs illegally and then mail it to the US. I see these websites on the internet all the time. I guess it is ok to just hand out drugs to people freely, but god forbid we have guns over here.
Umm, maybe you are not that familar with BULLSHIT. Maybe you are unaware of all of the online pharmacies in the States, maybe you are also aware that one of them got a bad rap for sending drugs to a woman in Victoria British Columbia CANADA where she died because the drugs were bad. THUS, many many of the spams that you get for Canadian Pharmacies are just US and other Pharmacies in sheeps clothing. Spammers think that if they make you believe that the drugs are coming from somewhere other than the US that you will buy them. Not to say that there are not online Pharmacies here, however, your statement is untrue. And if you believe that, I have some swamp land to sell you in Hurricane Valley Florida!

yys 04-19-2007 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 12276975)
Not only that but they really think that you have to have a prescription to get drugs from their online pharmacies. Shit everyone here knows that is not that case. They have a lot of sites that you need no prescription to get any kind of drugs you want. We may love guns, but they are the drug dealers of the world. LOL
Please provide some links and contact info to these pharmacies based in Canada that don't require a prescription.

I think your confusing someone saying they're a pharmacy in Canada with an actual pharmacy in Canada. A pharmacist in Canada who dispenses prescription drugs without a prescription will lose there license fairly fast.

CheneyRumsfeld 04-19-2007 08:52 AM
Canadians are manly men, they club a seal
it doesn't get any better than that
no guns!
just bash the brains out!


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