Na... just trust me - ya don't want more escapees :winkwink:

door #2 for me

I have no problem with the people that live in America, bar a small gripe about their world knowledge. Which isn't their fault I guess. I don't really know how your education system works. (re: the funny knowledge video that was posted last month)

I do think your President is a bit of a yoyo though. :)

-N

Why the hell establishment will let them learn about the world? They are not educated about any truth around.
They are simply fed by their newspapers and news channels, 95% of them are under severe influence of that propaganda .. their media has washed their brains out of them.

All they know is what their govt. and media want them to know. This is as simple.

Do you ever have anything intelligent to say?? or do you just spew complete and utter bullshit?? Running from the law wtf are you on about???

I'd have much rather spoken with you intelligently about this in person in Phoenix, but missed my chance I guess. Trying to debate this on GFY is only going to bring out the worst in both sides.

Frankly I love most things about the USA. Everyone talks about how rude and ignorant they are, but in all the times I've been down there, I can think of 2 or 3 people that struck me as that. That's a pretty damn good ration. One thing my wife noticed that was kinda funny, was phoning the hotel front desk one day coming back from Phoenix and thanking them for something. Instead of getting a "Thank you" back, she got "Uh huh" instead. She told me, not really offended, just as an observation. I laughed. I hadn't noticed it before she pointed it out, but sure enough I noticed it a few times after that. That's not something I consider outright rude, just indifferent. But, I can also see how some people WOULD consider it rude. If that's where the consensus came from that American's are rude and ignorant, well, I wouldn't say you have much of a problem. As was pointed out elsewhere in this thread, there are idiots everywhere...yeah, in the USA too.

But I digress.

One thing that I used to loved unconditionally about the US was their patriotism. In Canada, you probably have to drive a dozen square blocks to find ONE private residence with our flag flying. I've driven down streets in the US where every second house has a flag. I love that. Your patriotism IS unwavering. Unfortunately, even when you're wrong. But, while I've always admired your patriotism, lately on GFY, and with your current administration, arrogance seems to come hand in hand with the love of your country. On GFY, which thankfully isn't entirely representative of the US people, getting an American to admit they made a mistake about ANYTHING is virtually impossible. Admitting mistakes is a sign of strength btw, NOT a sign of weakness (a concept not only eluding the American's of GFY mind you). Just because someone doesn't agree with everything America does or stands for, doesn't make them American bashers, but that's the first thing we hear...followed closely by, one of the following condescending remarks...

-You're just jealous of us all
-You're from (insert country here), you don't count
-You're not from the USA, so you don't understand and you never will
-You're a terrorist sympathizer or worse, a liberal
-You're foreign trash
-WE run the world economy
-We'd send over a couple of nukes and wipe you out
-Or of course the threats...meet me at an upcoming show and we'll see what you have to say (I'll tell my beliefs to anyone wanting to hear them and speak intelligently about them. I DID go straight up to 12clicks in Phoenix, who's twice my size btw, and told it just as I did when we "Debated" elsewhere. It was one of the better talks I've had with someone from this industry. Too short though. Notes-He lost the board debate but didn't threaten me. :winkwink: )

I'm curious to know if your schools down there have bullying policies. In Canada, or at least where I'm from, when a kid is bullied, the school takes quick and decisive action. Hopefully that'll defuse the situation quickly. The recent tone of the US, but even moreso by some American's here on GFY, is of that of a bully. Of course that isn't going to go over well. It sure as hell doesn't go over well with GFY's American's, why should it go over well with anyone else?

With the size and world influence the USA has, NATURALLY not everyone is going to agree with everything you do. But the USA would come across much better if they appeared to listen what someone, hell ANYONE else has to say on any matter. Maybe, just maybe, they have a better idea.

Finally, as a loose analogy, talk to anyone in the service industry. Complaints are easy to come by. Praise, not so much. How many people here complain as soon as they don't get what they want? By the same token, how many people are quick to praise someone when they DO get what they want? I personally do both, but make MORE a point of making sure whoever's in charge knows when someone serving me has done a great job. That probably means as much to the server as a larger tip. Recognition. My point on that is, when you see people complaining about the USA on here, keep in mind how many people AREN'T complaining. I learned a long time ago, it's not always who's speaking (or in this case, posting in threads), but those who are conspicuously absent. Silence can speak volumes. :2 cents: :2 cents:

Personally I love Americans, everyone Ive met at shows are great and 99% that ive met other places are great as well. However, when it comes to this question I dislike Americans like Splum because he is a complete tool that makes you look bad. :2 cents:

I agree with you 100%.I find many but not all very arrogant and very judgmental.I like most of the American people

Totally agree with that Bryan :thumbsup

A rare few of those I'd call good friends are US citizens and... well most of them have done more in their lives than the obvious vocal trash here (especially in serving their country), and got total respect for these people.

I think you should know it wasnt you or most people Im friends with I was talking about in this thread Bryan. This is specifically to the ones running around flat out bashing us this week. Franck comes to mind and a few others. Every country has those that could give someone a bad opinion of a place. You know what Im saying. :winkwink:

I ended up having to miss Phoenix Ron. You coming to Xbiz summer forums? Due to a baby about to pop out, that will be my next show. Be glad to chat with you more than our normal few minutes we say our hello how are ya's lol. :winkwink:

thats the problem with the right ,they want everything black and white and the world isnt that. If I dislike the current administration it doesnt mean I hate my country. Just like you guys didnt hate your country when you used to bash clinton on a 24 hr a day basis.

Sticky=splum=american patriot. They want make kill very much and love gun rightly. They Cho friend finest kind #1.

Cho

No I dont think you hate your country just cause you disagree with Bush Tony. There are a few on here that are from the U.S. that I would say do hate their own country though. :2 cents:

Sure do know what you are saying idiot - you are included in that group of imbeciles - your a fucking embarrassment. You know what I'm saying? :winkwink:

Wrong - he is not any "American patriot" - he's another lump of human tissue that floated across to the US, along with his equally diminished friends from other lands to join the melting pot. He was given a mouth and some basic rights - among them, free speech, - he practiced how to abuse it for his own petty-minded ends.

What ya expect from trash who start their attention-whoring threads entitled "Enough with the bashing. Make it clear how you feel.." Of course, he never actually mean't any such thing - he wants to be bashed. The mortgage must be getting behind and the leech needs to earn :winkwink:

Other.

Being an american I'm very displeased with the current administrations' blunders, agenda, and poor execution regarding too many instances, wars, and disasters that I would like to list out.

What also distresses me is the complacent/ignorant attitudes that, imo, too many of my fellow citizens have currently.

With that being said, I don't hate the government and think the system can work well if run properly with an agenda that would bring stability back to our country. Which in return could bring more stability to other countries as well.

Being someone who is currently residing outside the country, I miss it so very much.

Bottomline: 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.

Excuse me.. you are talking about the most despised leadership in the western world and thinking they can bring stability to other countries???? DUH???

They are unqualified to boil an egg, can't even manage their own affairs and look after their own citizens.

They are also the source of instability in other countries - including decades of abuse and torture. Did you major in history???

you forgot the following option "I only hate idiots like Splum and (sometimes) stickyfingerz".

I want to vote for this one.

Click my sig to vote! :thumbsup

Oh shit you done did it now, the anti-American will be all over your ass for those statements. Dont you know its a crime to say anything nice about the United States?

Hate? Moi? :winkwink: Na... tho despise human waste - that comes in many forms, - the one thing it has in common? It's worth nothing to either human or animal. But.. they were bred that way and inherited the genes, so nothing new :winkwink:

FYI, i'm not a flamer so chill out a bit. please read post again more carefully.

I said the government, not the current administration, running smoothly could be beneficial. The sinking of the dollar is a perfect example of how things NOT running smoothly, can hurt others. Look beyond your own borders if you are not effected by the diminishing dollar.

The system of a democratic republic isn't a failure because of privatization of the govt, corruption, and moronic leaders that may have occurred over the past several decades. Allow me to quote myself, "What also distresses me is the complacent/ignorant attitudes" - Bdiddy. Which is the system which allows said corruption, etc to thrive.

English tip: comprehension can be defined as understanding the whole.

As a matter of fact I did and I have told you that before. Please cite instances (not flaming) and will agree if you're correct.

However, when you have studied history as I have, you would KNOW that there are very few civilizations (dead or alive) whose hands are clean in that regard.

If you're say, a native american whose tribe is the Nez Perce, then I would allow that statement without any response and I apologize for any assumption to the contrary.

Thats all I have to say about that.

I love everything about the united states.:2 cents:

Even black people? :Oh crap

Fair enough Bdiddy - my tolerance level of human waste is nada hence the response.

Sure.. it's one of my main gripes that the level of fiscal incompetence has reduced the dollar to being a waste of time. There were many excellent opportunities, but they were washed down the drain - and at a fast rate.

Mmmm... not a lot of comment on that - suspect some elements are good and some bad. Corruption is everywhere - not just in govt - it's a human trait :-) But in biz life, it's refreshing to deal with folks who are not corrupt and transparent in their biz conduct. Know one guy who recently turned down $2mill in "bribes" - gotta take a hat off to him!


This refers to the role of the US govt in other nations with involvement in torture and whatever? OK... No.. we are not talking about the Native American - yet another story - but in more recent times.

OK.. Will cover a segment of history (it's far too long) - ask any surviving member families of the thousands who were killed or tortured in Chile. Ask them who trained their torturers and who watched on during torture sessions. This is all well-recorded and plenty examples on the net and not in dispute.

Check out an organization which was based in Panama, but thrown out and is now fully based at Fort Benning - Georgia. It was called the "School of the Americas", but changed it's name for obvious reasons to "WHINSEC" - or the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation" Sound grand and noble?

This organization was the element responsible for the training of torturers in other nations. Almost all dictators who subsequently became a problem, (particularly in South/Central America) to their citizens attended SOA. Their principal military officers also were trained in torture techniques by the US govt.

There is of course much more, from CIA involvement in killings and other noble acts you would expect from a Christian nation - everything from drugs trafficking to weapons support (btw.. this was at the same time they were locking kids up in the states for drugs offenses).

Unfortunately, that wealth of experience in torture is still continuing in several of these countries and (not got the figures for this year), but last year resulted in a considerable number of killings of young women by placing plastic bags over their heads and waiting for them to die - then dumping them at roadsides. A prime example is in Guatamala and the good news is that a group of US-trained torturers (put in to manage that country at the time) have recently been arrested for several of these offenses.

SOA was evicted from Panama some time ago now - but the inheritance left both in Panama and all of Latin/South America will not be forgotten.

More recently, the current administration attempted once again, to form a "law enforcement school" in Latin America to train others - but, wisely this kind offer was rejected. Some folks have had enough of the abuse of the US govt.

There is plenty documentation covering this subject - and this is only based on the South American region alone - we could go global, but pointless. You don't have to agree if it is correct or not - it's a fact of life and commonly known, but maybe not too popular on CNN USA or FOX.

Sorry - your too stupid to speak to.

Where am I from or where I live at the moment?? I'm from a country that is not deep in debt and values shitty dollars in half :winkwink:

I'm from Europe idiot and I live in Costa Rica... Are you one of the idiots from the US??? Go on - "tell us where you are from"!! :1orglaugh

What does it matter? Just curious. The value of views on the US somehow is depending whether he's from the UK or Bulgaria?

Already said, but you are too dumb to know - where they value US dollars in half. I thought you were a proud American - that came thru loud and clear from your ignorance.

This is another one of the fetishes of the idiot element TFG - they "need" to know that because any country outside US borders is a "shit country" - it's part of the mental disability in conjunction with the ignorance :winkwink:

Understand?? Na... there is no ability to understand anything - trust me.

OK.. let's play a little for amusement sake. What "views" do you not understand??? I'll be please to enlighten :winkwink:

TeenGodFather, you speak any swedish?

Not really no. I do understand something, and could probably manage myself there. But I can't speak swedish like I do english. Even though it's mandatory in school, everyone hates swedish (probably because it is mandatory). Like 2% of Finland is swedish, yet we have to learn 2 languages. Gay.

Jesus H Christ:

OK... suspected you had no comprehension of "views" and an inability to express any points you may not understand...........

But.. if you can think of any - just post them :thumbsup

PS You managed yet to establish which country I'm from - or busy with a currency converter looking up the exchange rate in Thailand? :1orglaugh

Take your time.. no hurry... what is the question?

I agree on that. Sucks that you have to study swedish. I know about that before. But it sucks too that you guys cant communicate with swedish, norweigan and danish ppl. Your language is to differently.

But you do speak good english :)

No no no no :1orglaugh - that's not a question on "views" - it's another load of crap.

OK... Slowly... a question ends with a "?"... Now, what concerns you that you wish to know about and I'll try real hard to explain.

Jesus H Christ let me help you out of this one:

1 GBP = 2 USD.

Now, go google GBP and bingo!

Sheesh.. thanks for that he-fox - we'd be hear all night and scouring the globe to find a country in Europe :thumbsup :1orglaugh