Are those hits raw, total unique hits for each website (stats from each site added to the sum), or is it unique surfers for the hole network (one IP does is counted twice or more for the hole network)?

it's raws, just the traffic stats from the trade admins from each site added together. With that many sites spread on that many servers i have no idea how to count the uniques only, so yes, it's raw hits combined to all sites together.

Me: Making sense in this thread. Not saying ANYTHING stupid.
You: Cant read and make a fool of yourself TWICE

And then you continue to call me "more stupid".

Riiiight :1orglaugh

Anyway, im going outside. Have fun.

can you send me some more info to [email protected] ? or on icq#121747195 (won't be online this weekend)

Ok, I wondered because there are several ways of counting and thereby evaluate the traffic. If you skim/send traffic around in a network, its easy to hit 1 mill raw hits if you have enough sites.

One solution to the counting of unique IPs, is to use a common tracker/counter. Maybe that should be done before selling it...buyers would like to know.

Do you know difference between CJ and TGP at all?

Good Lord, you're such a fucking schmuck...

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yes, it's a network of CJs

Yeah I know what did you mean...
But ratio sound even more bad if you said $25k per 30M visitors monthly, that was my point...


And it's not nice to call someone fucking imbecile if you don't know him...

Well, i only do it on a messageboard as in real life someone might punch me in the face.

you are absolutly right, no doubt. I will check if there is a tracker around that can be added on top of all the sites to get some more accurate stats, that's not a problem at all.

And you're so mature too. :)

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wow, you guys are fucking up the guys thread ...

What thread? He's trying to sell sites he doesn't own without the prior consent of the owner. I think he deserves all the fucking up he gets.

just in case you are referring to the thread starter, than i just want again to clear:

- that i didn't know him before i got aware of that post and with "didn't know him" i just mean that, i have no idea who it is.

- i didn't ask for that thread, but the entire post is copied from my webmaster page at addtrades.com with the only difference that the ICQ is not mine.

- after some dealings (after this thread) with the threadstarter i decided NOT to do any brokering/deals or whatever with him as these suspect posts go on. There are some more reasons that make me feel NOT comfortable with him, but i will spare that better.

- i decided to partner with Omar from revsharehosting in this issue, so the only person i authorize for the next 12 months to broker my site(s) or network(s) is him. You can contact him at [email protected], ICQ# 242-621-053, Cell # 404-512-5293, Skpe: omar.rodriguez75,

-That's all, all i can do is to apologize to everybody but it's something out of my control and not my vault, however, sorry to everybody that wasted his time with the wrong person....

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You can judge a lot about posters from the way they speak and carry themselves. I rarely get impressed anymore, but I thought that I would comment about this here. Good luck on your sale, if you end up wanting to sell it.

Franck, my first thought when I read your ?25k with a million hits?? post was No, its 25k for 30 million hits (as im sure others did), but its not in my nature to point that out. However, let me point out that people would act more reasonably toward your occasional errors/oversights if not for your generally abrasive/defensive attitude.

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This thread turned bad...

just because you didnt add "a day" you misrepresented, by 29 million, how many hits it took to make 25K a month

under your logic a "0" is not that big of a deal

not much money for that many hits, must be filtered with Chinese traffic.

hehe....markusborger must be really pissed-off right now... this may be the reason he has shut his mouth...

Hello all, and sorry for jumping into this thread so late. I will be posting the "sale thread" of this network on Monday.

As for Mr. Marcsbuger, or whatever his name is trying to sell other peoples property with out there permission is just straight up STUPID SCAMMER BULLSHIT, and you should be arrested for it :321GFY .

As for Pornonada this is true. HE is the REAL owner of the network, and I do have the EXCLUSIVE rights to broker this on HIS behalf. I thank Pornonada for allowing me this opportunity, and he knows I will keep his best interest in mind.

Thank you Joe for the kind words. Those who know me. Know that I am VERY BIG on my word, and I do everything my power to keep it that way(even if I lose in the end). Also for those of you whom I have talked to, or contacted regarding this matter rest assure that we are pulling together all the necessary information you have requested from me, and as soon as it is ready I will let those of you know.

For those of you whom have been following this thread I apologize for the confusion created by a stupid scam artist.

PLEASE SERIOUS inquires only.

My contact information is above, and all over my sig feel free to contact me

Thank you!

I'am trying here something different that would work for both the submitter and the page owner (me)

For example the usual way people currently submit is that they pay for a partner account, submit daily a given amount of galleries which are displayed for 1 day on the main site or for a given time and than get filtered or moved to the archives (if at all). From the site owners point of view and i guess most tgp owners agree with me that they have huge problems with CHANGED submitted galleries after some time, means submitters replace the original gallery with a redirect, a trojan or whatever not.

However, as all my sites use the HALL of FAME princip (galleries are not rotated by date added, but by clicks to the gallery) which means simply the thumbs/galleries that get the most clicks stay on top for as long as they get clicks and even my archives are organized like that. So to prevent my own that a gallery gets modified at some time i think a fee of US$ 50 is the only way to ensure only serious webmasters submit their galleries. As this is of course a lot more expensive i have to give something in return and that is just that the gallery has a chance to stay on the index for months if the gallery itself is good and appealing to the visitors. For example if someone makes a kickass teen gallery with a kickass thumb it's possible that it stays on 1st position of several teen sites for a whole year, just as long as visitors click it. The idea is also that submitters only submit their best galleries as it wouldn't pay back for them to submit crap galleries that get rotated out due lack of clicks on first day. Additionally i don't remove any galleries, everything goes also to the archives.
How i said, the main idea for that is to protect myself from gallery cheaters, get the best galleries and also give the submitter the chance to make sales for weeks and months. Just trying to make and organize things a bit different as i don't have the time to deal daily with gallery cheaters that try to install viruses and infect my visitors with crap.

yeah, realy? Cheaters and Traffic Washers HATE me because i actively and day by day expose them on cheater boards. If you took the time to review one of my sites or the join page you would wonder. I'am pretty sure you won't find another tgp with that much rules someone must confirm.
In the case you mention i have a policy and i can show you about 100 examples that other webmasters/trades that send me crap traffic in a higher percentage get blacklisted on public cheater boards. As you accused me of chinese traffic i just can garantee you that my policy on chinese traffic is 1%, everybody sending me more than 3% finds his place on a blacklist, same for korean, brazilian and whatever else "unnaturaly" higher percentage of bad/crap country traffic.
So if you think someone can build up traffic only with chinese traffic than you must speak from your own experience! Just take my word that my sites are NOT a washing machine for cheaters, hitbotters and other crap webmasters or feeder traffic from traffic brokers!

look, that is nothing i realy care about. He made that thread without knowing me, without even notifying me in front that he might want to broker my sites/network. So after he didn't care about me why the hell should i care about someone that self-invited himself to make deals in my name? Not to talking about that such thing can easyly turn out a scam and i don't want to be involved in a scam or anything like that for sure. Not to talking about the 2nd thread he made abou that 2million website for which it seems he got banned from gfy. I'am doing serious business and the people who know me can confirm that whenever needed, so it's just naturally that i distance myself from possible scam as far as possible, lol.

not that i have to defend myself, but as i wrote already in my last reply, just thought i will make some screenshots of a sample site so you get an idea what the natural percentage is when you don't redirect and don't allow trades to submit higher percentages of crap traffic.

http://www.addtrades.com/screens/countrystats1.jpg
http://www.addtrades.com/screens/countrystats2.jpg

Chinese Traffic ehh??

hooo omar. You look like a great oportunist to me. You got informed of this sale from markusborger post. Took his place. And now shotting at him. I don't think you are being fair at all.

yes...but i just see 100k RAW hits from yours stats...don't tell me that you are trying to sell 100k RAW hits for 500.000 USD... this looks like a BIG SCAM for me...

I'm pretty sure his business dealings are more honest than yours. :)

Fair is being truthful about what you are selling, owning, or brokering. I asked markusborger if he owned the site, he said yes he . I asked markuborger if I could broker the network, he said yes I could. Does markusborger OWN this no he doesn't, and that's why he's banned.

Now is that fair?.

Look eboomsa you can call me whatever you like.I'm not here to argue with you, or for that matter prove myself to you. The difference between people like markusborger, and myself is that I do things the right way, through the right channels too make sure everything is done RIGHT

I won't comment on this matter again, but I think eboomsa is right on the money. Sure, this markusborger guy posted a few sales he didn't have the right to. So he drums up interest for the sales, gets banned and then all of a sudden YOU end up being the exclusive broker of two of them. If that's not being opportunistic, I don't know what is. :)

yea....this pornonada deal is a BIG SCAM....we are still waiting to see the 1.000.000 hits he were promoting in his page.... it looks like to me that if he gets no more than 100.000 uniques.... and 500.000 USD for 100.000 uniques it's a robery...:321GFY

well...i'm almost 100 percent sure that markusborger contacted the site owner BEFORE starting his thread... it only looks like to me that he were just trying to make more money than the 25000 USD you are trying to make with this SCAM...

Omar Rodriguez...sounds like a Spanish name to me...you must be one more of the hundred of thousands spanish decendents that are only in the US to make a quick buck.... stay in your country if you have guts to work for leaving...like an honest man...

Yes your right I am of Latin decent that is a American citizen. Eboomsa sounds to me like a little bitch named markusbuger that got banned, and is trying to defend his scamming ways with a fake nick.

OK, you may have had a good point earlier, but this just shows that you're an idiot. So kindly fuck off.

don't offend me Spanish guy...it looks like you lost your manners suddenly as it looks like your SCAM DEAL is not going thru:321GFY

no shit, he took a wrong turn after that one

goodluck pornonada with your network of sites! i would bet my panties you'll keep it :P

if you would understand just a very little bit from tgp's you would have seen that these are the stats from a single site ........ not from a network or several sites ..........

and you can call me a Scam or whatever, i don't care, people who know me are well aware i'am real, it's my biz, it's my network, my sites and my traffic. have too many trades going on to be a scam.

I have the impression that you are the fake nick of the thread starter, but i don't care anyway ...

lol, look, nobody will pay whatever without gettng proof. Once there are SERIOUS takers they get access to my tradescripts to verify the traffic and or screenshots, whatever they want, i don't have problems showing and verifying whatever related to my sites ...
You are an idiot if you think someone will buy something without verifying whatever stats are mentioned.

Additionally i don't care if someone buys it or not. It's an "IF" offer/sale, this network feeds me pretty good, so if there is someone buying it, cool, if nobody takes it, damn, very good too, i just begun to expand it, so i don't worry neither about your comments nor about possible takers ...
Now after the chinese traffic accuse, the 100k Scam Traffic accuse is there something else?