again, your an idiot. when you posted the scan of the MO you really sealed the deal... i bank at Chase, and that *is* a real MO. have fun forwarding it to the cops, FBI, pope, whatever, it doesn't matter... you wrote VOID on a perfectly good MO because your a moron.

the reason those "legal types" aren't coming to your rescue is pretty clear..

lawyer dont take $100 civil suits often ..

I can't believe your so stubborn you cant use common sense and listen to industry veterens telling you your wrong.


why would the cops send a perfectly valid money order anywhere , ? they will say " who voided this " and you will say " umm i did " and they will say " that was stupid ? "

you should choose your words very carefully. you admitted in the very first post YOU broke the contract. Now you are making false accusations based on nothing more than your wild imagination and a suggestion by a $6 an hour money mart employee. Better make sure the employee at money mart will pay if you get sued for defamtion.

the simple fact nobody agrees with you should tell you something, that perhaps your wrong :)

LISTEN to the advice i'm giving you..

IF you are really that concerned file a CIVIL suit , thats exactly what the police will tell you, but i can tell you your wasting your time , especially since you made this thread, if anything you will end up paying her court costs and getting nothing but a headache and a big bill.

WRITE CONTRACTS , IF THEY ARE BROKEN , SUE

, in this case it was a verbal agreement , and YOU broke the contract and YOU voided the money order. so you have no case,

To mi rescue ^^ That is cute !

SmokeyTheBear she broke the verbal contract ! Not me !

Fucking retard.

Maybe the guy at the Money Mart will be your lawyer, since he knows so much about money order fraud.

I don't know why you'd be so stupid as to write VOID on the thing before even going to an actual bank with it. Why don't you paint "DOESN'T RUN" on your car while you're at it.

you said you quoted her 7 hours she agreed , then you looked at the site , said it was gonna be longer , you broke the contract , you cant even keep your stories straight..

umm you live pretty close to me , you better be prepared to say that in person, watch your mouth son..

I still haven't seen any proof of fraud apart from the staff member at the dodgy cheque cashing mentioning a common scam.

Again, why didn't you deposit it to a bank account?

You'd be an idiot to get the police involved in this. It is nothing. Return the money order to Tia and move on.

My last post in this thread !
 

rowan without a proper contact number there is no bank that will put it through.

If the financial institution cannot verify the senders contact info they will not put a check and or money order through.

After looking around for the proper contact information as to cash the money order, I found that every place she should have proper contact info that such was missing... I was not able to get even a phone number never mind a street address, as to cash her money order.

After I tried to cash her money order, I had searched and tried once again as to see if i could cash it trying to do so without her contact number; I was told that such could not be put through. Since I could not provide her contact info... nor could the financial institution(s) find a way to contact her...

Since there is some dispute on what is owing the banks and or check cashing companies will not risk cashing the money order...

Because the money order is useless to me I had to void it. When the money order is returned, since I cannot hold onto it as far as I understand, It most likely will end up back at the place where she had got the money order and it is her responsibility as to answer the financial institutions questions on why she had done what she had done. If the financial institution finds that her actions were legal then she will get her funds back... ,but most likely they will have one of their investigators check things out further. I'm sure they will get an accurate picture of things... As far as I understand issues of this nature that cross the border becomes of interest to the FBI, not the local police department and here in Canada it would be the RCMP and or Interpol ... and I have never had a problem with either ...

The fact of the $ 150.00 USD outstanding is still owing to me for service rendered... such I will never see... but at least it is noted publicly ...

I don't like the idea of seeing another person get scammed by her !

I just wanted my three hour.

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Please visit I have some military types to introduce you to.

Ok, so (a) they must do things differently up your way, or (b) you're mistaken.

It's a freaking bank issued cheque, it should go through the interbank cheque settling process just like any other cheque. The issuing bank will confirm that they did indeed sell that cheque, and you get credited. WTF would you need contact details when all they need to confirm is that the cheque is legitimate?

rowan I understand your point but they wont cash it ?

SmokeyTheBear I thnk I know you, we met if I'm not mistaken
 

Correct me if I'm wrong... Do you know a Tim Grey or his family ? lives in the west end of town... are you not related or a friend of the family ? His older brother used to ride with the Hells Angles higher ups and use to truck and went by the name of SpaceMonkey ??? if I'm not mistaken... or that could have been his other brother... I have a hard time remembering ...

I have never had problems with the angles, they see to it.

If you do know the Grey family how is Tim doing ? Its been awhile since I've seen him say hi for me and mention Richard J. Benoit to him, if you do know him.

Small world.

money order
 

Hmmmmmm.........just what i said ............a picture of a perfectly good money order from chase manhattan bank, except you wrote void and scam on it. What an absolute dip shit! Finnancial institution??? Moneymart?? Are you kidding me? Do you even have a bank account? Apparently not or you wouldn't be going to a money mart.

Also, I cash checks all the time from customers , mo's, cashiers cks, and never once has any of them asked for a phone number when I went to cash it! Maybe they do something different in canada, however, I kinda doubt it!

Holy christ. Do you actually believe the shit you're spewing?

Number one, MONEY MART IS NOT A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

Number two, any bank at which you have an account will cash a money order without hesitation without the need for contact information. Not once have I ever been asked for a contact number and I've deposited several hundred money orders at three major Canadian banks (TD, RBC and CIBC).

What the fuck do you think they do? Call up the number and say "Hey, did you send this money order? You did? Great... can you confirm that it is a real money order and not a scam? You can? Great! Thanks for your confirmation!".

I can't get over how retarded you are. It's staggering.

So you don't think I'm fair bcdjudo7 ?
 

bcdjudo7 I have never came across a person who hid their contact information as much as you are doing. Even the banks will not cash it ! because they have to confirm it is not a scam... Canadian banks are very careful much more so from US companies who are doing business online. If they try and they cannot reach the sender of the check and or money order and if something does not sound right to them it gets marked as a very likely scam and gets investigated by the police computer crimes department.

I will not hold onto this money order and since I cannot cash it because I had voided it you have nothing to loose. When the money order returns to your financial institution they will noticed it had not been cashed and they are required by law as to return such to you...

I went out of my way to please you... and you turn on me and will not even cover 3 hours ?

You had wanted me to start on other projects asking me for information and such and you were confusing. Look as I said to you if your happy then I am happy... I really hoped you like my work because good clients are hard to find.

If you are legitimate why are you acting in the manor you are ? Do you think that you do not owe me anything ?

I understand others think what they want to think, but do you think you can at the very least answer this simple question.

It seems to me that you were trying to confuse the subject all along by having me write so many email to you and such...

I don't know if I like SmokeyTheBear but some of point makes sense and that was to get things in writing. I don't agree with him on much but that is besides the point. I offered you my service in good faith thinking everything was fine, but you turned around and for what I can make out of it scammed me ... Why ?

As soon as you stated take $ 50.00 out of the $ 175.00 you voided the agreement. As soon as I received your payment I was supposed to start work
, now the very same day I received your payment you send me a email and tell me to stop working... So If you are saying take $ 50.00 how are you coming up to that amount ? are you at least agreeing that you owe me ?

The financial institution indicated to me to send back the money order and to have another one done up ... But I know that you have no intention to pay me... so at what point do I think I'm being scammed ???

When financial institutions ask for a simple phone number to verify everything is ok and to continue with the transaction does it not make sense as to offer a contact number... don't you think a bank will check ? I don't know how it is in the US but here in Canada the banks and other financial institutions are strict with checks and or money orders from other countries...

I am under obligating to at least deal the police.. If they say send It back ... well it goes back, however I will be on file with a formal complaint with the local police department.

If you are not scamming me, which i have reasonable and probable ground to believe then I am justified in dealing with the police.

So Monday most likely your money order will be returned to your financial institution.

Money Mart thinks I tried to scam them because of what you did !


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KrisKross yea your right ... I'm wrong now should we kiss and make up now ?

:1orglaugh

If Tia wasn't having her name dragged through the mud this thread would be pure comedy goldmine. I don't know what checks Tia went through before hiring this guy, but obviously something went wrong.

I'm sure we've all written off, with full payment, work at some time that didn't pan out as hoped. In this instance Tia wanted to write it off while paying for time spent on it. If she were truly a scammer, or even a flake, she'd have walked away without paying a penny.

The hoopla over the MO, and even more so over 2257, is plain silly, as has been explained time and again. The agreement didn't work out for either party, and both parties, I would hope, should take some lessons learned from the experience.

And those lessons don't involve Interpol, the Hell's Angels, or Jack Bauer.

why did you write void on the check ?!?!?

Balalsubturfyooj, do you speak the same way you type? I can just imagine this agitated little man ranting and pacing around in Money Mart because they refuse to cash his "fraudulent" money order. :Graucho

are you serious?
 

I can't believe this moron is still typing on this subject. What a complete idiot. I can't explain anything else that I haven't 12 times already, nor can anyone else, however, balal, I'd like to thank you for the comedy relief, and eveyone else, i've enjoyed reading your posts on the subject. Funny thing is, being that i'm new here, this is probably the most reads i've gotten of any of my posts on any threads! LOL! Anyway, it's nice to know that most see my side of things and realize that i'm not a "scammer." Balal, your intent was to make me out to be a scammer because your work sucked, instead you mad yourself look like an ass by bringing this to the board, as I told you in email. As I said, anyone can feel free to contact me about this, however, I'd be happier if someone would just like to do some business, trade links, support my affiliate program, or anything else like that. Thanks everyone! Tia

Possibly the

GREATEST SELF OWNAGE EVER!!!

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Folks the lesson here is MAKE SURE YOU GET A PHONE NUMBER WHEN SOMEONE SENDS YOU A MONEY ORDER!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Seriously Im glad I opened this thread again. Im dying here... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WTF is this crap. FBI, Interpol, Hells Angels, International Fraud! Jeesh are you sure this is not a commercial for a new Jim Cary detective whatever flick? Jeesh Tia isn't it amazing the types you meet in this biz? The funny part is some actually are over 18 and have completed 4th grade. Did this dude ever hear the advice to just do business and not embelish any transaction with unneeded information? I mean did Money Mart really need all the lurid "SCAM" details? BTW the FBI won't even look at anything with a value that low. This I know for a fact. Maybe the Mayberry PD will.

This "drama" is making me drag out my old Arlo Guthry albums and listen to Alice's Restaurant. It makes me want to sing along to "the 27 8x10 color glossy photos, with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each explaining the scene of the "crime".

BTW Tia, you might have your cause for a suit in that he publically accused you in his own handwriting and words here of being a SCAM artist and posted an image of the MO.

Isn't Money Mart connected to the Meglo-Mart in Arlen Texas that Hank Hill shops at?

ALOTI

would it not be reasonable to call the issuing bank and verify the money order?

bwahaha your digging yourself deeper son. You need a reality check.

Listen to the advice you are given.

Smokey, watch your back. Gotta remember, he has no probs with the angles.


Don't know about you but that pythagoras dude gave me all sorts of headaches :1orglaugh

I could not have said it better myself

LOL Im not real familiar with SEO work but doesnt proper grammar and spelling play a role in the effectiveness...? haha :error

He was going after the segment of the internet that cant spell properly during their searches. :winkwink: Innovation is KEY! :1orglaugh

Ahh makes perfect sense, rather than take the Beverly Hills approach and relate to the upper class he choose the Walmart...or should I say Money Mart approach and relates to the general public. Very smart ;)

:1orglaugh

I haven't laughed this hard in a very long time.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That was done, and they still said it was a no go !!!

I am sick of the personal attacks by those who do not understand things for what they are and I do not take well to being threatened also...

I have been trying my very best to keep everything nice and legal but I now am starting to wonder about some of you with your threats ...

You all must be big fans of hers as to stick up for this person who is coming across as being very shady ...

She rips me of and you defender her...

Well I am not going to play this game any further... I said my piece ... I'm not going to make any more posts in this thread ... I explained myself !

If you want to keep this thread alive go right ahead !

Only threats I've seen in this thread have been from you towards others.








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I've sent MO's around the world and never once did I have to put my contact # so the person can cash or deposit it. After going to the MoneyMart and before you voided it and wasted our time did you even try to deposit it in your checking account? Oh yeah thats right you didn't try it because you do not have a checking account. Any business including a one man SEO service would have a Business checking account. Let me ask you this? Was this your first SEO assignment? ... why did you want to cash the check instead of depositing it? wanted to avoid taxes? Sounds criminal let's call law enforcement in Canada peeps and report him :1orglaugh

Anyways you ruined your own reputation and I think it is safe to say that no one on this board will do business with you.

Btw you threatening to have Smokeythebear beaten up by other people is lame and cowardly. Even if smokey can kick your ass. Be a man and take your licks. You would get more respect that way. Not that you have any anymore on here if you ever did.

Yea Ive never needed someones phone number to cash one either. It was his first SEO assignment he attempted to complete. Be nice :) haha :1orglaugh

I'm always nice... :Oh crap

You guys do realise that NOBODY is reading your huge posts but you, right?

There is nothing shady about sending a money order, using a personal name instead of business, OR using a PO Box. You are full of shit, but if you worked you shouldnt refund any money. Either stand up for yourself and say no refund I did the work, or give the refund and shutup. You are making yourself look like an ass.

holy crap this is bullshit, but entertaining though.

Ok, I have become part of this whole thing now (Will explain how below), so let me put in my two sense....

First, Mr. Balalsubturfyooj, Simply put, Tia and yourself came to a verbal agreement and that agreement was broken, essentially by both parties involved. Now, this is ok to do, as I myself always try and up-sell my services to people to make more money when I see a need for it. She at that point decided not to do business with you, because she was unhappy with the initial results, causing you to go off on this tangent.

Ok, I am not going to recap, everyone knows what has transpired here..... My point is, Welcome to GFY!! Everyone here has had bad dealing with others, myself included. I myself have been called a scammer and people have warned others against using my services and such, but I still do tons of work with people here, and So will Tia. The point is that you can never make everyone happy all of the time. Am I a scammer?? I do not think so, and i have a ton of references that would agree, but the people who feel I scammed them would beg to differ for sure.

I will tell you this, for every person who thinks I hosed them over, I have 10 more that will vouch for me, so in the end you learn that sometimes no matter what you do, not everyone will be happy. To drag it out just makes you look like an ass.

Moving on......

I am actually the guy who took over doing the SEO for Tia, and unfortunately, what you are saying is not true. I got her Phone Number and Physical Address without even asking for it and was asked if we could conduct business by phone. In fact, the entire deal was set up by telephone and I receive phone calls from her daily.

I did get most of the text work done, and I will be building a site map, as it does help with SEO, and SEO outside of the body of a web page is important, especially when it comes to Page Titles and Tags.

I have actually already submitted most of the work to her already and have not received a dime yet, but I feel completely comfortable that I will. She is waiting on her new Epassporte account to allow her to send money to me. She went out of her way to open an Epass account to make it more convenient for me to accept her payment.

I feel extremely comfortable dealing with her on this project and am looking forward to adding her to my list of regular clients.

If this was your first SEO project, I would suggest getting a little more experience before jumping right into the Web Site department, as it is a bit trickier than just writing Keyword heavy text. If you are interested, I can provide you with the names and contact info of 3 of my clients that are always in need of additional website reviewers. It will provide you with some steady cash every week for sure, as it does me. And it will also help you gain some experience in the field.

Also, you should not have listened to the Money Mart employee. Think about it, if the person working at the Money Mart had any true business experience at all, they would not be working at the Money Mart. It would also be advisable for you to get a Business bank account since you are running a business now, even if it is only a small, part time gig out of your house.

I guess my whole point is that you just need to let it go and be done with it man, it is seriously making you look bad. Like I said, not all of my past transactions with people here on GFY have went smoothly. Some had complaints against me and I have had complaints against some. You just move on and look forward to the dozens of others on here that you will have successful relationships with. Even when someone dogs you, replying in this manner is only hurting yourself. Just ignore the snide comments, take the advice of the Vets here, as harsh as they may seem, and suck it up.

Seriously, if you need some steady SEO related work, hit me up on ICQ or by email and I will give you the contact info on those clients of mine... i don't mind spreading the work around. This way you can get back to making money and stop worrying about this petty bullshit.

threadstarter is being a jackass and looking like a fucking moron lmaaaaaaoooooo

Wow, I should have checked my Email before posting my reply, but anyways, here ya go.....

I just received my Initial payment from Tia through Epassporte. She opened her account on Friday, had to wait the initial 3 day waiting period before she could send any money, and sure enough, at 12:23 AM EST, the money was sent.

Doesn't seem like she is scamming me at all.... An Epassporte transfer cannot be Fraudulent and I am not going to need any info to go to the ATM, or my bank teller and withdraw the funds when I need it.

So, I think this should more than prove Tia was not committing fraud.

Here is the link to the page where you can see the readable version of the screencap..

http://chicbang.com/epass.htm


http://chicbang.com/Epass.jpg

Actually, an epassporte transaction can be reversed if the funds were loaded with a fraudulent transaction (eg stolen credit card) to cover the transfer.

Now, having said that...

I want to stress I'm posting this merely to correct your misconception, NOT because I think you'll be jibbed in this instance. That should be fairly clear from my earlier posts in this thread. :)

Ahhh, thanks Rowan, I did not know this and therefore retract my statement that it proves anything.

However, I would say that the intentions are clear that Tia had/has every intention of paying for work she is satisfied with.

I guess my main point was he should not have done what he was not asked to do and then bitch about not getting paid for it... I was asked to handle the SEO, not the design and that is what I did, submitted the text portion and she was satisfied with it....

Thus, I have been paid the partial payment, and when I complete the work, TO TIA'S SATISFACTION, I will be paid the balance.

Update: I finished the SEO project for Tia and was paid in full on time!!

I am now also going to be helping them with other things, as well. Looks like I have another long term client!!

Sure glad I didn't write Void on my payment!!

You are a scammer, you were busted in the buy and sell forum selling blog posts that were plagiarized off other sites and then came up with a lame excuse for it. Not to mention you were constantly begging for money for whatever fake tragedy of the week. Anyone that had any doubts about Pricelessprod being a scammer please click on his name, check other posts, and read his posts in the buy sell forum, especially one titled "benefit from my unfortunate situation". Remember just because a scammer doesn't scam every customer and one or two have something nice to say about him doesn't make him any less of a scammer.

Thanks DS250 !

I'm not supporting you. I am just pointing out that he is a scammer. You are just plain stupid.

What an idiot.

oh what a disaster!, i read half of it until i got tired!, hehe