Don't deal with iq's under 50, huh? I'd compare iq scores with you any day ! LOL! You must be kidding. Also, I'd like to point out that my corp name is right on my website, so your blind ass obviously can't click thru a site either. tia

Void Check !
 

If anyone has any questions regarding the check being void then here.

http://www.prismvod.com/temp/void-check.jpg

I would like nothing better then to get paid for my 3 hours of work... such will never occur... Now if I was trying to run a scam or be dishonest why would I go and write VOID on the money order ??? if it could be cashed ??? at least I would get paid however she claims that to only take $ 50 .00 ( one hour of work) and since there is a disagreement of what is owed, the financial institutions had a very big problem with the idea, once i had explained my circumstances.

I was told that they are had problems with fraudulent check and money orders from online "services"; that was identical to what I was experiencing !

Now they have on file that I tried to cash a fraudulent money order.

This financial institution I deal with a fair amount... and It look very bad for me !

Now if this finical institution turns around and calls the city police saying I had tried to cash the money order then I would be treated like I was the committing fraud or at least attempting to do so !!!

So I am obligated to at the very least to deal with the police regarding this issue.

The question of this website and the owner(s) being legitimate come into question and her 2257 record is just a very good example !

Don't let yourself be fooled by her !!!

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A1R3K .. I know !

Ok, I'm guessing moneymart is some sort of dodgy instant payment check cashing place and that's why they needed contact info. Why didn't you just deposit it into your bank account and wait the few days for it to clear?

As far as the money order being fraudulent, it sounds like they've talked you into believing that you've fallen for a scam, rather than physically examining the MO without prejudice and concluding it's fake.

So what are we left with?

- A valid money order that you voided yourself :1orglaugh
- One pissed off model/webmaster
- This entertaining thread :1orglaugh

By voiding the order and scribbling "SCAM" on it you've obviously foiled your chances of being able to cash it, but more importantly, you've made it very difficult for Tia to recover those funds. If it was a cheque, fine, the funds will never be drawn from her account... but she's already paid that $175 plus fee to send you that MO. What are you gonna do about that?

dude , i can't believe your still on this fucking rant.

Your either very very naiive or just plain stupid ( no offense intended )

Despite what you think , i'm not on anyone's side, im just trying to help you and explain why things are the way they are..

When you told the money mart person about having to send back $50 after you cashed it , throws up a big red flag..

what you dont understand is if the money order was invalid , how were you supposed to send back $50 , ? tia doesnt stand to gain ANYTHING.

The way you explained it SOUNDS like a nigerian money scam , the tellers were trying to help you , you took them too seriously.

instead of simply having them verify it manually , you fell for the warning hook line and sinker..

as far as the seo is concerned , you both are a little at fault .. contracts are very simple. you make one , if the other party breaks it you post th3e contract and the things they broke.. you cant do that because you had a verbal agreement ( that was your first mistake ) second you started to work before getting paid ( second big mistake )

you freely admit you quoted her an estimate then told her it was gonna be more work than you had actually already AGREED upon ( third mistake , you broke the contract )

when the other party backed out of the deal , ( prob because your giving 2 diff estimates ) you go on some self destructive rampage for no reason.

her 2257 is none of your concern , half the webmasters here use po boxes on their domains , so no big suprises there ,

the money order you posted is perfectly valid other than you voided it for no reason .. now that you voided it tia can simply apply for a lost money order refund and get all the money back , when you could have at least gotten half the payment for doing basically nothing.

Damn, what a pile of BS.
Tia is OK in my book, and yer nebulous SEO stuff....
Hours and hours on keyword research?
Tia Ling Asian Porn star.
Done!
Oh, yeah...
and the thing about PO boxes?
I must be in big trouble with all my suppliers, sponsors, credit card companies, etc.
I live way out in the sticks, and my address is a PO box.
Nuthin I can do about it, as that's the only address I have, and I'm pretty sure there must be other people in the same boat.

smokey you are worth 20 times this guy. i just calculated that you wasted, 20k taking the time to write that. we are both guilty of trying to show someone that they should drop it.

shit like this happens. people are guaranteed to work for her doing seo, guaranteed. the point of this thread is so no one will work with her. we all know that people will work with her. so case in point this thread = useless no matter what he writes.

to the thread starter.

* go work on something. something thats making you money. you'll feel better.

move on. :)

Money Mart isn't a financial institution, dipshit.

Fuck !
 

I don't hear the legal types making stupid remarks...

I can't believe the lack of good judgment by those calling me down !

rowan that is between the financial institution that she went through and her.

The money order will be forwarded most likely form the police to such financial institution that she had got the money order through... Now if for some reason the police tell me to send it back I will send it to her financial institution and not to her, since she is acting in a fraudulent manor...

Look she scammed me !


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again, your an idiot. when you posted the scan of the MO you really sealed the deal... i bank at Chase, and that *is* a real MO. have fun forwarding it to the cops, FBI, pope, whatever, it doesn't matter... you wrote VOID on a perfectly good MO because your a moron.

the reason those "legal types" aren't coming to your rescue is pretty clear..

lawyer dont take $100 civil suits often ..

I can't believe your so stubborn you cant use common sense and listen to industry veterens telling you your wrong.


why would the cops send a perfectly valid money order anywhere , ? they will say " who voided this " and you will say " umm i did " and they will say " that was stupid ? "

you should choose your words very carefully. you admitted in the very first post YOU broke the contract. Now you are making false accusations based on nothing more than your wild imagination and a suggestion by a $6 an hour money mart employee. Better make sure the employee at money mart will pay if you get sued for defamtion.

the simple fact nobody agrees with you should tell you something, that perhaps your wrong :)

LISTEN to the advice i'm giving you..

IF you are really that concerned file a CIVIL suit , thats exactly what the police will tell you, but i can tell you your wasting your time , especially since you made this thread, if anything you will end up paying her court costs and getting nothing but a headache and a big bill.

WRITE CONTRACTS , IF THEY ARE BROKEN , SUE

, in this case it was a verbal agreement , and YOU broke the contract and YOU voided the money order. so you have no case,

To mi rescue ^^ That is cute !

SmokeyTheBear she broke the verbal contract ! Not me !

Fucking retard.

Maybe the guy at the Money Mart will be your lawyer, since he knows so much about money order fraud.

I don't know why you'd be so stupid as to write VOID on the thing before even going to an actual bank with it. Why don't you paint "DOESN'T RUN" on your car while you're at it.

you said you quoted her 7 hours she agreed , then you looked at the site , said it was gonna be longer , you broke the contract , you cant even keep your stories straight..

umm you live pretty close to me , you better be prepared to say that in person, watch your mouth son..

I still haven't seen any proof of fraud apart from the staff member at the dodgy cheque cashing mentioning a common scam.

Again, why didn't you deposit it to a bank account?

You'd be an idiot to get the police involved in this. It is nothing. Return the money order to Tia and move on.

My last post in this thread !
 

rowan without a proper contact number there is no bank that will put it through.

If the financial institution cannot verify the senders contact info they will not put a check and or money order through.

After looking around for the proper contact information as to cash the money order, I found that every place she should have proper contact info that such was missing... I was not able to get even a phone number never mind a street address, as to cash her money order.

After I tried to cash her money order, I had searched and tried once again as to see if i could cash it trying to do so without her contact number; I was told that such could not be put through. Since I could not provide her contact info... nor could the financial institution(s) find a way to contact her...

Since there is some dispute on what is owing the banks and or check cashing companies will not risk cashing the money order...

Because the money order is useless to me I had to void it. When the money order is returned, since I cannot hold onto it as far as I understand, It most likely will end up back at the place where she had got the money order and it is her responsibility as to answer the financial institutions questions on why she had done what she had done. If the financial institution finds that her actions were legal then she will get her funds back... ,but most likely they will have one of their investigators check things out further. I'm sure they will get an accurate picture of things... As far as I understand issues of this nature that cross the border becomes of interest to the FBI, not the local police department and here in Canada it would be the RCMP and or Interpol ... and I have never had a problem with either ...

The fact of the $ 150.00 USD outstanding is still owing to me for service rendered... such I will never see... but at least it is noted publicly ...

I don't like the idea of seeing another person get scammed by her !

I just wanted my three hour.

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Please visit I have some military types to introduce you to.

Ok, so (a) they must do things differently up your way, or (b) you're mistaken.

It's a freaking bank issued cheque, it should go through the interbank cheque settling process just like any other cheque. The issuing bank will confirm that they did indeed sell that cheque, and you get credited. WTF would you need contact details when all they need to confirm is that the cheque is legitimate?

rowan I understand your point but they wont cash it ?

SmokeyTheBear I thnk I know you, we met if I'm not mistaken
 

Correct me if I'm wrong... Do you know a Tim Grey or his family ? lives in the west end of town... are you not related or a friend of the family ? His older brother used to ride with the Hells Angles higher ups and use to truck and went by the name of SpaceMonkey ??? if I'm not mistaken... or that could have been his other brother... I have a hard time remembering ...

I have never had problems with the angles, they see to it.

If you do know the Grey family how is Tim doing ? Its been awhile since I've seen him say hi for me and mention Richard J. Benoit to him, if you do know him.

Small world.

money order
 

Hmmmmmm.........just what i said ............a picture of a perfectly good money order from chase manhattan bank, except you wrote void and scam on it. What an absolute dip shit! Finnancial institution??? Moneymart?? Are you kidding me? Do you even have a bank account? Apparently not or you wouldn't be going to a money mart.

Also, I cash checks all the time from customers , mo's, cashiers cks, and never once has any of them asked for a phone number when I went to cash it! Maybe they do something different in canada, however, I kinda doubt it!

Holy christ. Do you actually believe the shit you're spewing?

Number one, MONEY MART IS NOT A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

Number two, any bank at which you have an account will cash a money order without hesitation without the need for contact information. Not once have I ever been asked for a contact number and I've deposited several hundred money orders at three major Canadian banks (TD, RBC and CIBC).

What the fuck do you think they do? Call up the number and say "Hey, did you send this money order? You did? Great... can you confirm that it is a real money order and not a scam? You can? Great! Thanks for your confirmation!".

I can't get over how retarded you are. It's staggering.

So you don't think I'm fair bcdjudo7 ?
 

bcdjudo7 I have never came across a person who hid their contact information as much as you are doing. Even the banks will not cash it ! because they have to confirm it is not a scam... Canadian banks are very careful much more so from US companies who are doing business online. If they try and they cannot reach the sender of the check and or money order and if something does not sound right to them it gets marked as a very likely scam and gets investigated by the police computer crimes department.

I will not hold onto this money order and since I cannot cash it because I had voided it you have nothing to loose. When the money order returns to your financial institution they will noticed it had not been cashed and they are required by law as to return such to you...

I went out of my way to please you... and you turn on me and will not even cover 3 hours ?

You had wanted me to start on other projects asking me for information and such and you were confusing. Look as I said to you if your happy then I am happy... I really hoped you like my work because good clients are hard to find.

If you are legitimate why are you acting in the manor you are ? Do you think that you do not owe me anything ?

I understand others think what they want to think, but do you think you can at the very least answer this simple question.

It seems to me that you were trying to confuse the subject all along by having me write so many email to you and such...

I don't know if I like SmokeyTheBear but some of point makes sense and that was to get things in writing. I don't agree with him on much but that is besides the point. I offered you my service in good faith thinking everything was fine, but you turned around and for what I can make out of it scammed me ... Why ?

As soon as you stated take $ 50.00 out of the $ 175.00 you voided the agreement. As soon as I received your payment I was supposed to start work
, now the very same day I received your payment you send me a email and tell me to stop working... So If you are saying take $ 50.00 how are you coming up to that amount ? are you at least agreeing that you owe me ?

The financial institution indicated to me to send back the money order and to have another one done up ... But I know that you have no intention to pay me... so at what point do I think I'm being scammed ???

When financial institutions ask for a simple phone number to verify everything is ok and to continue with the transaction does it not make sense as to offer a contact number... don't you think a bank will check ? I don't know how it is in the US but here in Canada the banks and other financial institutions are strict with checks and or money orders from other countries...

I am under obligating to at least deal the police.. If they say send It back ... well it goes back, however I will be on file with a formal complaint with the local police department.

If you are not scamming me, which i have reasonable and probable ground to believe then I am justified in dealing with the police.

So Monday most likely your money order will be returned to your financial institution.

Money Mart thinks I tried to scam them because of what you did !


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KrisKross yea your right ... I'm wrong now should we kiss and make up now ?

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If Tia wasn't having her name dragged through the mud this thread would be pure comedy goldmine. I don't know what checks Tia went through before hiring this guy, but obviously something went wrong.

I'm sure we've all written off, with full payment, work at some time that didn't pan out as hoped. In this instance Tia wanted to write it off while paying for time spent on it. If she were truly a scammer, or even a flake, she'd have walked away without paying a penny.

The hoopla over the MO, and even more so over 2257, is plain silly, as has been explained time and again. The agreement didn't work out for either party, and both parties, I would hope, should take some lessons learned from the experience.

And those lessons don't involve Interpol, the Hell's Angels, or Jack Bauer.

why did you write void on the check ?!?!?

Balalsubturfyooj, do you speak the same way you type? I can just imagine this agitated little man ranting and pacing around in Money Mart because they refuse to cash his "fraudulent" money order. :Graucho

are you serious?
 

I can't believe this moron is still typing on this subject. What a complete idiot. I can't explain anything else that I haven't 12 times already, nor can anyone else, however, balal, I'd like to thank you for the comedy relief, and eveyone else, i've enjoyed reading your posts on the subject. Funny thing is, being that i'm new here, this is probably the most reads i've gotten of any of my posts on any threads! LOL! Anyway, it's nice to know that most see my side of things and realize that i'm not a "scammer." Balal, your intent was to make me out to be a scammer because your work sucked, instead you mad yourself look like an ass by bringing this to the board, as I told you in email. As I said, anyone can feel free to contact me about this, however, I'd be happier if someone would just like to do some business, trade links, support my affiliate program, or anything else like that. Thanks everyone! Tia

Possibly the

GREATEST SELF OWNAGE EVER!!!

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Folks the lesson here is MAKE SURE YOU GET A PHONE NUMBER WHEN SOMEONE SENDS YOU A MONEY ORDER!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Seriously Im glad I opened this thread again. Im dying here... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WTF is this crap. FBI, Interpol, Hells Angels, International Fraud! Jeesh are you sure this is not a commercial for a new Jim Cary detective whatever flick? Jeesh Tia isn't it amazing the types you meet in this biz? The funny part is some actually are over 18 and have completed 4th grade. Did this dude ever hear the advice to just do business and not embelish any transaction with unneeded information? I mean did Money Mart really need all the lurid "SCAM" details? BTW the FBI won't even look at anything with a value that low. This I know for a fact. Maybe the Mayberry PD will.

This "drama" is making me drag out my old Arlo Guthry albums and listen to Alice's Restaurant. It makes me want to sing along to "the 27 8x10 color glossy photos, with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each explaining the scene of the "crime".

BTW Tia, you might have your cause for a suit in that he publically accused you in his own handwriting and words here of being a SCAM artist and posted an image of the MO.

Isn't Money Mart connected to the Meglo-Mart in Arlen Texas that Hank Hill shops at?

ALOTI

would it not be reasonable to call the issuing bank and verify the money order?

bwahaha your digging yourself deeper son. You need a reality check.

Listen to the advice you are given.

Smokey, watch your back. Gotta remember, he has no probs with the angles.


Don't know about you but that pythagoras dude gave me all sorts of headaches :1orglaugh

I could not have said it better myself

LOL Im not real familiar with SEO work but doesnt proper grammar and spelling play a role in the effectiveness...? haha :error

He was going after the segment of the internet that cant spell properly during their searches. :winkwink: Innovation is KEY! :1orglaugh

Ahh makes perfect sense, rather than take the Beverly Hills approach and relate to the upper class he choose the Walmart...or should I say Money Mart approach and relates to the general public. Very smart ;)

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