Oh, and in response to the original topic - Chuck always looks a little out of shape. A lot of people are saying they saw it coming, but every fighter gets caught eventually and Chuck was dominating top competition for many years.

I didn't see that coming..at all

And the stoppage was good, Chuck was done

We will just have to see who the better fighter is if and when there is a rematch won't we. And as far as you saying someone is clueless versus a trained MMA fighter's opinion well that is your opinion. The bottom line is either way right or wrong the fans got ripped off. I hope there is a rematch and maybe chuck is getting to be the next shamrock (lotsa glass in the jaw) who knows? everyday a new fighter is born and evrday another is one day closer to retirement.

Yeah, I'm picturing an A-B-C type thing if Silva and Shogun join the mix. Rampage will always have the advantage on Chuck, Silva/Shogun can take it to Rampage, and Chuck would be my favorite over the shootabox boys.


I was checking out a ChuteBoxe video yesterday that was showing elbows from the guard. I can't wait till those guys are in the cage.

The fight sucked, I mean it wasn't much of a fight a few hits from Rampage and that was it....

Chuck was out, (laid out flat for a few sec's) and ref made a good call, but damn, like I said not much of a fight...

I'd really like to see 'em go at it for a few rounds in a rematch

I don't know why I'm even responding to you, but if Dana thought Rampage was gonna win he would have given him more lead up fights. The worse possible thing happened from a marketing standpoint in that they lost their posterboy champion to a relative new-comer.

The fans got ripped off? Both fighters stepped into that cage, one got knocked the fuck out. Who got ripped off?

As for Lance knowing more than you, he described what happened exactly how it went down, you described what you thought you saw, which was wrong. Nothing to be ashamed of, you are just new. But stating your opinion as fact, that's wrong.

Rampage was an animal, unfortunately I think Chuck is done.

chuck will rock him next time around. hes gotten a lot better since the 1st fight. i think chuck fucked up and rampage did what he shouldve and knocked his ass out. Clean win, no questions asked. But.... i still think chuck will rock him.

I watched the press conference after, Dana said Chuck and Wandy are going at it soon. :):):)

They may no longer hold titles anymore, but who gives a fuck, those two need to fight!!!

I think Rampage is a world of hurt with Hendo though. :(

What makes you think that Rampage didnt' get better after their first fight? :2 cents:

I agree, he was totally knocked out for a few seconds, if the ref. let them go, he would of comletly been fucked up! but i did think he would have lasted alot longer than he did, but damn he got knocked the fuck out!

I don't have a single good thing to say about Shamrock, but the guy doesn't have a glass jaw.

check out this video of a guy that looks like chuck fighting a GIRL!!!!...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_XXZCkDDetY

people thought couture was done too

hmmmm:1orglaugh

Both those guys have been so inconsistent at times that its hard to tell. If they're both at the top of their games, I'll probably give the edge to Rampage just for the weight advantage and jesus power.

Ok what would you call it? He had his fair rain of championships and good fights then started getting his ass kicked by younger better fighters, maybe the same is happening to Chuck and his career.

being new to ultimate fighting but very intrigued and into it i really enjoy reading commentaries from the experienced posters...

It was a great fight in that Rampage did what he did but i think what i feel and most others is that they wanted to see more, atleast i did....but damn Rampage has some some crazy stoppage power...watched his previous fights as well...

1. Chuck isn't Couture

2. PRIDE fighters are making their way to the UFC. So, I doubt UFC will push Chuck anymore due to his age and the new/young talent they have now.

also i thnk being thrown into this new position i feel strongly that Rampage will take it seriously and will be hard opponent to dethrone....

One fight does not make Chuck anything like Shamrock.

EVERYONE LOSES. (Except Fedor)

Maybe you should look up the last 7 fights Chuck has won, and then you can tell us how many of them were younger than him.

im sure he has but the difference i see between the two fighters is brute strength (rampage) and tactful ko fighter (chuck)

based on their first fight, the amount of blows that chuck took to the head and face and kept goin says a lot about him. he is hands down outmatched by rampage. just putting the fighters side by side says it all. Either way, next time around (if chuck dosnt fuck up cus hes intimidated) he'll fuck rampages shit up. boys got nothing but muscle on chuck.

This is a great gif of Rampage slamming the shit out of Ricardo Arona in PRIDE.

http://www.andykidd.com/andykidd99/a/slamko.gif

My coach has told me some great stories about Arona, and he was winning that match till that slam. :(

A couple of things about wha't next for Chuck that haven't been mentioned yet:

- The dude honestly LOVES to fight. He'd still be fighting for $2k a show if that was the way it was. That's opposed to somebody like Tito Ortiz who doesn't really like to fight, but he loves the fame and money. Chuck will be back in the cage swinging for the fences as long as his body will allow him.

- He's always been a partier, but its been getting out of hand lately. He's gonna need to clean up a bit if he wants to remain a top conditioned athlete at his age.



And another question for the hardcore fans / guys that train:

Chuck has been doing the "lead hand down" stance for a long time and never been caught. Obviously, it worked great for takedown defense and weird striking angles, but do you think it was completely exposed by that right hook? Will we see more or less of that style in the future?

bring on Wanderlei Silva!!! :)

Who the fuck is Chick Liddell?????

It's been there a long time, this time, a well prepared and well trained fighter took advantage of it. Rampage had his number. It was bootyful, soon as I saw him going left to right, I knew it was over. :)

Anthony why can you not read the word "maybe" in my post you directly quoted and yes Shamrock did start getting his ass handed to him by younger fighters and yes Rampage is Younger than Chuck and i have to agree with you in his last seven wins most of Chucks opponents were older than him but i was talking about his losses not his wins.

The comparison i was making was to the guy that was one of the founding fathers of UFC that was the glory boy for years, had a severe decline in his career, then we come to the Chuck generation (my generation) in UFC history where he is the most recognized. Yes Chuck lost, no i do not like it, maybe it is the beginning of the end of his career.

It was a good stop. Liddell was beat. Rampage was cowering away from a Liddell punch as he wildly through the punch... so to me it was a little lucky. From what I have scene Liddell now is a better fighter than Jackson is now. So, I would like to see a rematch.

Chuck has loose TMA inspired striking and Rampage has the tight peek-a-boo boxing style - most people consider Rampage's "technique" to be much better (unless he's taking knees in the clinch, which is a major hole in his style).

You started to have a case until you said older than Chuck. There's only been on fighter older than Chuck that he's fought in the past 7 fights.

Other than RANDY, they have all been YOUNGER than Chuck.

Unbelievable. Chuck losses one fight out of seven in a row he's won, and now he's washed up? It's not like he was fighting scrubs or cans, he fought serious talent.

But because he's lost one time to a Better Fighter, he's washed up? Absolutly ZERO logic.

dude you've only managed to reach dumbass status. you're about 2 posts away from being a moron.

stop now.

I'm ignoring these Ken Shamrock / Chuck Liddell comparisons and I suggest everybody else do the same.

was a good stop, like everything and in all sports aging is one skill that is a part of nature, there will always be someone younger, stronger and new in ALL sports, there is no questions chuck is legendary already

i have secondary sponsorships for both fighters through my mainstream ventures by the way, been on business side of MMA since late 90s...:winkwink:

Damn, you've seen the sport through some harsh times. For my own street cred, I gotta mention I was ringside at KOTC for a Rampage fight in '01 when his entire gameplan was picking people up and dropping them on their heads.

Karo's fight was great. His hands have really gotten better.

The actual "Fight Of The Night Award" went to Kalib Starnes and Chris Leben.

I'm wth HPD, those were the dark days.

You own Tapout?! :):):)

One good thing about Rampage winning is that we won't have to hear stupid shit like this for awhile:

"We don't know right know because Pride and UFC were separated for so long," Jardine said. "Look at what happened to CroCop recently. We don't know how good those Pride guys really were."

I got some pics from the fight. As soon as my day slows down, I will get them posted.