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KimJI 06-12-2007 10:00 AM

Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

Nicky 06-12-2007 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland (Post 12586573)
I was supposed to be released like 3 years ago.

So? It's still being worked on

crockett 06-12-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 12586589)
Too bad paypal pulled the plug back in the day.

Any why do you think paypal pulled the plug?

It happened right after they were hit by heavy fines for doing gambling transactions on the web..

p1mpdogg 06-12-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ARS Bryan (Post 12586798)
ARS still offers standard checks, overnight checks, wire transfers, direct deposit, and Epassporte! :thumbsup


nice going slick...

lmk when you post your next thread

p1mpdogg 06-12-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12586800)
Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

epiccash has checks and wires i think just about every program does thats fairly large.

BucksMania 06-12-2007 10:11 AM

i think we all will really appreciate if they let us know if they are going to drop gambling or not

ill send the thread to one of them

Nicky 06-12-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12586855)
epiccash has checks and wires i think just about every program does thats fairly large.

Yea, any mid/large sponsor proggie offer wire transfers, epassporte is nice when it's working smooth though

BucksMania 06-12-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12586800)
Programs should offer Wiretransfers.
CCbill can, so why cant anyone else. Set it at $200 minimum, that way its not a waste of time for the program owner

the most of the programs do
but they are very expensive compared to ePass

p1mpdogg 06-12-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BucksMania (Post 12586886)
the most of the programs do
but they are very expensive compared to ePass

do you want assurance your money will get to you, or risk it being frozen like the many horror stories posted here in the past.

thats a question each affiliate has to ask themselves.

mikeyddddd 06-12-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 12586613)
yeah... I got that too. hehe

I figured they used the wrong variable or hardcoded "JOSH" instead of using the name variable from the account.

'So Fucking Money 06-12-2007 10:30 AM

We've had a positive response when it comes to our affiliates. I have been getting praise on this issue and it's good to hear. We have only had one guy so angry he actually closed his acct.

DateDoc 06-12-2007 10:30 AM

It will be interesting to see how many of your affiliate accts have a sudden change of mailing address - lol!

'So Fucking Money 06-12-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 12586946)
I figured they used the wrong variable or hardcoded "JOSH" instead of using the name variable from the account.

This issue has been fixed, JOSH.(hah)

Thanks for letting us know, mikey

KimJI 06-12-2007 10:34 AM

Was not aware how many programs have started to offer wire. I only promote a few tbh, and I selected them at the time because they had wire.

But I love my Epass, its the best way for me to pay designers and traffic

p1mpdogg 06-12-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12587042)
Was not aware how many programs have started to offer wire. I only promote a few tbh, and I selected them at the time because they had wire.

But I love my Epass, its the best way for me to pay designers and traffic

do a search on gfy for epassporte.

maybe you will smarten up

The Duck 06-12-2007 10:37 AM

fucked in the head

You Forgot Poland 06-12-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12586637)
Yes, and the banks and the people receiving the money at the end of the line are in the US... where it's illegal. Dumbass.

Illegal what? To receive money?

It's only illegal if you are (as an US citizen) use Epassporte for gambling.


Fucking idiot.

KimJI 06-12-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12587061)
do a search on gfy for epassporte.

maybe you will smarten up

I dont recive money to my epass, that is what i was trying to say. I transfer money to it from my Bank's webinterface to the Epass, and then pay the designers and the traffic. I'm not a huge webmaster like some of you guys, I dont deal in 6digit numbers. It can cost me $90+ to make a expres wire transfere to a American bank, so its a hell cheaper for me to keep 1-2k in my Epass and then use that for the small amounts I need to send back and forth

V_RocKs 06-12-2007 11:38 AM

The NetTeller problems... They did not listen to the Gov't... So the Gov't jailed two of their top officers when they came to America (for a convention?). To get their people back NetTeller had to give the Gov't what they wanted, the names and pertinent info on everyone who had $10,000 or more in their accounts.

Why did the US do this? Because Line 11 on your tax return says that if you ever amassed more than $9999.99 in an offshore account (which both NetTeller and Epassporte are) then you have to let the US know. So now if you won $12K in a poker tourney and moved the money to your NetTeller account you now are due for penalties for failing to declare the money was offshore.

And that pertinent data: It says you moved the money as a single transaction from Ultimate Bet. So now you failed to declare income. You owe taxes and interest and penalties there too...

What is the difference between Epassporte and NetTeller? Good question... Anyone from Epassporte care to tell us?

Any US affiliates ever have more than $10,000 in their Epassporte account and fail to check that box? Better amend your return before they come looking for you.

dready 06-12-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland (Post 12587126)
Illegal what? To receive money?

It's only illegal if you are (as an US citizen) use Epassporte for gambling.


Fucking idiot.

You seem to have missed the point.

doopix 06-12-2007 12:21 PM

You should try with payoneer.com
They're offering real Mastercard for $9.95 and anyone can fund your account with: VISA, Mastercard and Direct Deposit.

KimJI 06-12-2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doopix (Post 12587818)
You should try with payoneer.com
They're offering real Mastercard for $9.95 and anyone can fund your account with: VISA, Mastercard and Direct Deposit.

Their monthly, transfer and card fees are higher than my bank, so dont see why that is a alternative.

OneWhoKnows 06-12-2007 01:19 PM

OK, let me point this out then: I WANT ALTERNATIVES!

If all sponsors pull the plug on ePass sooner or later now, this will make them vanish even before US banks or the government do anything. So why the hell doesn't anybody put up a solid alternative NOW? This has been discussed 2 years ago already, and still there's not one real alternative to ePass.

And about all the "all you idiots who use ePass, use wires or cheques instead" rants... This is NOT an alternative for most European based webmasters like me. USD cheque withrawal costs me about 20EUR for EACH damn cheque. Receiving international wires? About the same!! Now imagine that I get like 5 cheques or wires around $100 from several sponsors per month. This would be the result:

$500 = 375 EUR
375 EUR - 100 EUR (5x20 for withdrawal) = 275 EUR
275 EUR = $365

I would lose $135 every month only for receiving my hard earned money and getting it on my damn bank account. Of course it would be lots more, if I receive more than 5 cheques (which would be the case).

So for me no ePass would mean I'd have to stop being an adult webmaster, simple as that. And I didn't even ask the question how I should pay my hosting, designers and so on without ePass!

shaliza 06-12-2007 02:25 PM

ePassporte is committed to the Adult Industry, as our presence, support, sponsorship and staff have demonstrated for close to 5 years. This is not the case with some banks. Most of us have experienced problems in even having bank accounts at certain banks (B of A in particular) as we ??have income from pornography??). This has happened to some of the largest companies in Adult.

And for those that say that some problems are because ?ePassporte is in gaming?, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites.

Please consider that ePassporte has the largest Adult Sponsor programs using us as a payment method. We process millions of payments every month in the Adult Industry. We have been doing this for 5 years. Most of you know our Team. ePassporte is here for the long term, no matter what you hear.

Again, we are sorry for any inconvenience that third parties cause our clients and our business.

OneWhoKnows 06-12-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shaliza (Post 12588742)
And for those that say that some problems are because “ePassporte is in gaming”, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites.

So poker sites are legal in the US, just casino sites aren't? Can somebody please confirm that?

suesheboy 06-12-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 12588771)
So poker sites are legal in the US, just casino sites aren't? Can somebody please confirm that?

Not true.

It's like being partially pregnant.

Illegal gaming is illegal gaming.

European people don't like the cost of selling US porn should sell European porn.

pornguy 06-12-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 12587247)
I dont recive money to my epass, that is what i was trying to say. I transfer money to it from my Bank's webinterface to the Epass, and then pay the designers and the traffic. I'm not a huge webmaster like some of you guys, I dont deal in 6digit numbers. It can cost me $90+ to make a expres wire transfere to a American bank, so its a hell cheaper for me to keep 1-2k in my Epass and then use that for the small amounts I need to send back and forth

What Trey us trying to tell you, is that even with what you are doing, you risk losing your bank account.


Be very careful.

OneWhoKnows 06-12-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 12588800)
European people don't like the cost of selling US porn should sell European porn.

Doh. Very smart. How about 95% of the European programs pay out in USD only aswell, just because the majority of their affiliates is from the US?

Lee 06-12-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn (Post 12587012)
It will be interesting to see how many of your affiliate accts have a sudden change of mailing address - lol!

Well I did, but I genuinely moved house during the time Ive used ep.

dready 06-12-2007 04:30 PM

Looks like Fantasy Girl Revenue just dropped them too. :(

Chio 06-15-2007 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by You Forgot Poland (Post 12586573)
I was supposed to be released like 3 years ago.

It *is* done... has been for years. We'll leave it at that for now.

Chio 06-15-2007 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 12588272)
OK, let me point this out then: I WANT ALTERNATIVES!

If all sponsors pull the plug on ePass sooner or later now, this will make them vanish even before US banks or the government do anything. So why the hell doesn't anybody put up a solid alternative NOW? This has been discussed 2 years ago already, and still there's not one real alternative to ePass.

And about all the "all you idiots who use ePass, use wires or cheques instead" rants... This is NOT an alternative for most European based webmasters like me. USD cheque withrawal costs me about 20EUR for EACH damn cheque. Receiving international wires? About the same!! Now imagine that I get like 5 cheques or wires around $100 from several sponsors per month. This would be the result:

$500 = 375 EUR
375 EUR - 100 EUR (5x20 for withdrawal) = 275 EUR
275 EUR = $365

I would lose $135 every month only for receiving my hard earned money and getting it on my damn bank account. Of course it would be lots more, if I receive more than 5 cheques (which would be the case).

So for me no ePass would mean I'd have to stop being an adult webmaster, simple as that. And I didn't even ask the question how I should pay my hosting, designers and so on without ePass!

It's done. It's in beta and people here have seen it. I'll leave it at that. Expect an announcement soon.

OneWhoKnows 06-16-2007 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 12603970)
It's done. It's in beta and people here have seen it. I'll leave it at that. Expect an announcement soon.

WOW! This sounds really promising. Hope 2 hear something about it soon :thumbsup


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