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Tom_PM 06-18-2007 11:27 AM

I absolutely believe that when you need good care in the US, you generally get great care with minimal waiting. In my case, 3.5 days after a heart attack I was home posting on message boards. Lots of tests, drugs, surgery without waiting. Cost equivalent to 10 yrs at $300/month.

When I left my previous job in 2000, I had something like 90 days through COBRA to pick up the cost of what my previous insurance had been to keep it going. Back then I simply could not trade eating and electricity for health insurance, so I had to let it lapse.

I'll pick up some personal insurance soon if I can find it. In NY it's a bitch for the self employed, as the hospital financial assistance woman told me flat out.

directfiesta 06-18-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 12618260)
Lots of clueless people here.
I'll speak to what I know and nothing else.
Someone I know very well had to do a MRI in fucking Cannes where Mr Moore is a hero at every festival.
He had to wait 3 months to schedule an appointment because in that great country of France who has mostly free medecine, there are only 2 MRI's for the southeast of France which encompass over 3 millions people !!!!

In Paris, if you need extensive medical attention such as a transplant, then you'd better have money or else you will be put in a waiting list with the other "proletaires". Unless of course you are wealthy, then you can go to the hospital in Neuilly which happens to be the American Hospital btw.

Sure, health care sucks in the US, but if people actually stopped complaining and signed up for fucking medical insurance instead of leaving their lazy fat ass on their couch while watching "American Retards" then maybe the system wouldn't suck that much.

And for the American haters, try going to an emergency room in the UK or Italy or Spain and you will be acquainted with what a hospital looked like in the 50's!!!

If Cuba had such great medical conditions, why would Cuban prefer being eaten alive by sharks than staying with Fidel???????

;;; got a splinter up your ass ?????

Peaches 06-18-2007 11:35 AM

I know when I worked for company here in the US who had Canadian employees, any Canadian employee who could afford it bought additional supplemental insurance.

The only travel insurance I buy is from Medjet - it will fly me back to my choice of hospital in the US from a foreign country. You guys might want to get treated elsewhere but I'm happy getting my care here :)

beemk 06-18-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi (Post 12615952)
I agree....although i havent seen it yet but from the press and articles i have read, it should be worthwhile for every living in the US should watch this movie...

how can you recommend a movie based on press articles? get your own opinion for christ sake.

Jimmy Rock 06-18-2007 11:51 AM

I don't know why some didn't like the other movies he made..yes they where a bit one sided, but i'll take his one sided information any day over FOX news

~Ray 06-18-2007 12:38 PM

get your health insurance from your home/auto provider and save on bulk :2 cents:

pornguy 06-18-2007 12:46 PM

The Dollar is more powerful than the pen!

Peaches 06-18-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock (Post 12618743)
I don't know why some didn't like the other movies he made..yes they where a bit one sided, but i'll take his one sided information any day over FOX news

If your two news choices are Fox and MM, you might want to broaden your info sources :thumbsup

ZoneMaster 06-18-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 12615699)
One of the best I've seen in my life. I think he just won a lot of friends in this movie amongst even moderate republicans.

Good job Moore! :thumbsup

Watched it last night - good effort by Moore to cover the subject :thumbsup

Jensen 06-18-2007 03:03 PM

to bad he left us out:

Funny enough, Moore admitted at the conference that he researched Norway as well, but thought it was way too weird how good the health care is over there. “Norway is so crazy good, and so ridiculous, more ridiculous than France, they send you for a week to the Canary Islands at a spa. We got so [freaked] out by that, we just couldn’t put it in.”

:/

BusterBunny 06-18-2007 04:23 PM

50 sicko's

TheJimmy 06-18-2007 04:39 PM

anyone got a verified decent link to a torrent for this? (hypothetical question of course)

pocketkangaroo 06-18-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 12618260)
Sure, health care sucks in the US, but if people actually stopped complaining and signed up for fucking medical insurance instead of leaving their lazy fat ass on their couch while watching "American Retards" then maybe the system wouldn't suck that much.

And for the American haters, try going to an emergency room in the UK or Italy or Spain and you will be acquainted with what a hospital looked like in the 50's!!!

I'm not so sure these people are "too lazy" to get health insurance. For a family, health insurance will run you about $500 a month (assuming everyone is healthy). Add in a couple grand for a deductible, co-payments for visits, and prescriptions, and you're talking about spending a good chunk of money for just being healthy.

Now what if you have diabetes, hypertension, or some other long term disease? They simply won't take you. And if they do, they won't cover your pre-existing condition.

There are millions of Americans who don't have health insurance for reasons other than "they're too lazy to signup".

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Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 12618260)
And for the American haters, try going to an emergency room in the UK or Italy or Spain and you will be acquainted with what a hospital looked like in the 50's!!!

You get what you pay for. Our hospitals charge $25 for an aspirin, $150 for a nurse to take your temperature and blood pressure, and $200 just to have a doctor look at your chart for a minute. Sure their hospitals might not have a waterfall in the lobby and marble floors, but they still work just as well (if not better).

pocketkangaroo 06-18-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 12618496)
In it's essence, every time we go to the polls, it's a possible "revolution."

Every time a Republican has taken the seat from a Democrat or vice-versa - in any post, it's been a mini peaceful revolution.

The ability to overthrow our government is in our constitution. Our framers were wise enough to allow for it... via peaceful means.

If you have a problem with the way things work, exercise your first amendment rights, organize, and help do something about it.

:2 cents:

Not really, the two parties who are bought and paid for by the companies in this country have made a system that makes it impossible for anyone outside their parties to run. We could have the most brilliant man alive want to run for President, have tons of support, yet he doesn't stand a chance in the current system unless he picks a party.

As for protesting, take a look at some of the laws that have been passed. It's very difficult to protest anything these days with "free speech zones" and other ordinances that block that right.


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