obviously you don't serve time just for defending your family

Nah that was chopper

I agree they are a little different. Mainly in the sense torrents don't affect everyone here and spyware does. Torrents don't affect dating and cam sponsors or affiliates that promote those sites. Spyware fucked everyone, even the idiots who were buying traffic from them.

You not hurting me by advertising on a torrent site because I don't produce content, or have a membership website and I don't send a lot of traffic to membership sites. But I do understand the content producers and membership site owners/affiliates point of view...... putting money in the pockets of people who steal traffic from you is no different then putting money in the pockets of people who create sites that allow people to steal content from you. Stolen content / stolen traffic it pretty much adds up the same way.

People who use spyware pay the spyware company for traffic, so they help fund the site that steals from us.

People who advertise on torrent sites and get traffic from them help fund the torrent sites, which gives access to tons of stolen content and fucks a lot of people here.

but when they steal your content it doesn't cost you any money.

When they rip an entire member's area of a website, it cost that site money.

but back to the point of this thread... do you want to vouch for aussie
?:1orglaugh

Yes you do if you take the law into your own hands

298 views... 1 vouch. ouch!

i don't think I would vouche for anyone here if that makes a difference.

Maybe it is just me, I have never had any problems with a lot of people here in business transactions and general convo, but my reputation is more important to me than to put it on the line for anyone that I don't know very very very well for a long time, not someone i did a few deals with or that I have met a few times, worked with, talked on icq for a couple years etc... which means = no one GFY

like i said maybe it is just me. I can give you the " I think he is a good guy and never had problems with him" for a lot of people here.

Obviously you don't fully know how the laws work.

If you come into my house and try to rob me and swing at me with a bat and I grab a knife and stab you I can end up doing time for escalating the violence.

Fucked up how things work..

ok I proved my point. its been fun.

there is nothing wrong to defend your family, i was gonna post that to Aussie about it actually. as a matter of fact, i do commend him for doing what he did on that robbery. :thumbsup

I did take a look at that link you posted.
1. i do not have torrent files or player on my pc so i can't even view those files but I do know what you mean and no i do not agree with cp.

2. are you saying that if you see banners on this torrent site, meaning that all advertisers are supporting CP?

3. back to content stealing biz that are hurting the industry, how about those sponsors who advertise or getting traffic from hacked password sites-like?
are you guys going after them too.

my honest answer on this would be... if there is no users, i guess there won't be any advertisers. and you can say if there is no advertisers, then there won't be users because these sites would be dead.. we'd never win!

like i said.. i do not dislike Aussie. he has the right to say what he wants to say. Ace was only asking who he was. Unlike Will76, he did not hide who he is and whom he represents.

It's time for bed. I have an early schedule tomorrow.

:winkwink:

so you've hit f5 210 times.

Why not answer some questions that have been asked of you in this thread, or comment on things said. :)

Ouch what? you dont really think I give 2 fucks about this do you?

ill vouch for him


the guy doesnt seem to have an agenda, and i know you dont like him bashing you guys, but his motive seems to be one of principle, and thats something one can respect

Wrong. That is an instance of self defense and meeting deadly force with deadly force. If you come into my house and try to rob me but you do not display a deadly weapon and I grab a knife and stab you then I have committed a crime, but then again even this scenario does not apply to every state, but most I think.

Every state?

Are you speaking in usa or other?

AK I really dont have anything personal against any of you datinggold guys, personally I like your program and wish I could promote it, morals stop me doing that

FACT, if no one was buying ads from sites like Piratebay they would close down. How else would they pay for their bandwidth and servers, overhead, and do you think they would spend all that money for the good of their users LOL.

if everyone stopped funding torrent sites (buying ads from them) then most of them including all the bigger ones would shut down. That's a fact. Now will everyone stop funding them? nope, because too many people have the if it doesn't hurt me then fuck it, it is fair game, if it hurts everyone else, oh well their bad.... attitude.

agreed... its actually amazing that when pinned to the mat over shady business models the best the accused can come up w/ is "who are you anyway to question my support of business models that we all know are detrimental to most in the industry.

to be honest, all you've done is give him a *lot* more cred to those watching from the sidelines..

:2 cents:

ps: "your grandmother"? wtf, one step away from "yeah, your momma!"... not a very tall ivory tower to shout down from..

I am speaking about the USA but their are still a few states that allow one to defend property with deadly force, at least I think this is still the case. Most will only allow deadly force to be used when confronted with deadlyforce no matter what one is defending.

Thank you man:thumbsup

He's not in the USA, laws are different is Australia and Canada and the rest of the world.

Where I am you cannot escalate violence, period.

If you come at me with a bat and I use a knife, axe, whatever I end up in the wrong for taking it to a higher level of violence.

You left too soon, he has a lot more vouchers now. I'm sure it will grow come morning.

ps: in case it wasn't patently obvious, i would gladly vouch for him in this instance... its nice to see anyone demanding some transparency in this industry, i don't really care who they if they are already in the right for pointin gout the obvious... that many of the bigger players are just as happy screwing their customers over as their own affiliates. whatever..

Where are you located? Question: when confronted with a deadly weapon, which a bat is, and you respond with the use of a deadly weapon, how is that considered to be an escalation? Logically, in any coutry, that would seem to be meeting deadly force with deadly force, at least to me.

The chances of you hitting me with a bat and me shooting you with a 12 gauge shot gun are a bit different.

I don't agree with the laws, just saying it's how it works.

Thanks chupacabra:thumbsup
He can dig all he likes man, I've never fucked anyone in this business, I admit I have said things I shouldn't of said, but never fucked anyone, I've been a webmaster since 97/98 and there is not one person that can ever say I've fucked them, so he/they can say what they want,

Well luckily in the USA, one can meet any type of deadly force with any type of deadly force. Also as I stated I think their are still a few states left where one can defend property with the use of deadly force even if the crook does not display deadly force.

nope, cant vouch for you either.

Isn't that a nice thing to be able to say. I've been a webmaster since 99 and not 1 person can say that about me. Never fucked , scammed, etc.. anyone either, ever.

I feel the same way about marriage. Sure I would like to fuck a lot of chicks but I never did it. Not so much because I would be cheating her but because I would be cheating myself. If I can't control myself and have some integrity and do the right thing, then I am no better then 90% of the other scum out there.
Not saying I am perfect but I don't need to steal from the next guy to get ahead and I will keep my word and commitments. :2 cents:

I actually thought in the US (any state) if someone just breaks into your house you can kill them legally. Inside your house fair game, outside your house then you need to be able to defend why you did what you did.

I am sure it is a lot different in other countries though.

ditto:thumbsup

In some states I believe that you can still kill them, but in most you cannot, unless you are confronted with deadly force. It actually used to be, in most states, that you could defend your property inside or outside your house, with deadly force.

If i see someone on my property at nigth i am shooting at them frst asking questions later. I have a throw away gun I can plant on them. :thumbsup

He?s obviously getting the desired result.

Only ass lickers, true bro?s and members of Stand Up Guy Clubs get vouched for on GFY.

Talk about a change in attitude (DG that is) :/

Are you in fucking highschool or something? whats next you gonna make a list of all the "cool kids" on gfy? let me guess you wont bother reading this until 10 people vouch for me right?

go back to starting "We pay more than AFF" threads

Ok lets ask a different question, Is there any person here or knows of any person or even heard from anyone that I have scammed,ripped off or any other shady activity I have done in the 10 years I've been a webmaster?

Will, that's some of the biggest amounts of crap I've ever heard.
'FACT' is, some people LIKE stealing software / movies / whatever.
It's been happening since BBS days, and noone was making cash of it then. The cash is a perk - and there are thousands of private torrent sites without banners.

I don't understand why he needs to be 'vouched' for. He's pointed out that you support torrent sites, and that can easily be independently verified.

Datinggold smacks of desperation of late. Sad.

I had intended to start promoting DatingGold again (over Fling) to see if it would perhaps create more revenue on my sites. Given, I don't have much traffic and I'm sure you wouldn't notice myself, my traffic, or the paltry sum of conversions I could generate. Regardless, I'm quite sure I will abandon this idea and stay with Fling.

The torrent problem aside, I understand that DatingGold, as a business, must make a multitude of business decisions -- however unpopular they may be to others. As the owners and operators of your establishment, it is certainly your first priority to keep your business afloat and profitable. However, I don't feel this excuses posts such as this one. You reap what you sow, gentlemen, and I don't believe this is the way to handle it.

did you read my post or just the first couple words and glaze over the rest.

Sure people like stealing movies and trading them. BUT THESE PEOPLE WILL NOT PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH OUT OF POCKET JUST FOR THE FUCK OF IT SO YOU CAN GET YOUR FREE SHIT FROM THEIR SITE. How much do you think it cost to opperate sites like The Pirate Bay? Do you think if they made no money from ad sales they would pay thousands of dollars out of pocket just to provide a way for peole to get shit free. yeah i am sure they are good guys and would do that to be nice to everyone :upsidedow

READ MY WHOLE FUCKING POST NEXT TIME. :mad:

FACT IS YOU ARE A MORON IF YOU THINK SITE LIKE PIRATE BAY WILL STILL BE AROUND IF THEY WEREN'T MAKING MONEY. Will there still be people trading shit, yes. Sites like Pirate bay, no.

Bullshit. A knife or an axe is no more deadly than a baseball bat, and is not an "escalation of violence".

Post links to his actual court case and lets see how these examples stack up to what really happened.