Yeah except you could wipe out half a billion Chinamen and you still have more chinese than you do Americans.

once again - does Vietnam ring a bell?

what was the main income source for the Vietkong before the war?

let's not underestimate morals in a fight

I was trying to be funny. But I do believe the US is on top.

I can't really comment on Korea because I know so little about it. I know little about Vietnam (although my father died there), but from what little I do know it seems our government tied our hands and refused to let the military do it's job.

Iraq.... The general public seems to think that Iraq is a failure, when in truth it was a staggering succuss. With very little losses on our side we destroyed what little of the Iraqi army was willing to fight, and took out their govenment. With the exception of Hilter over running countries in WWII, this kind of a battle is rarely seen. What's going on now is not a war but a military occupation with terrorists taking pot shots.

We've had five thousand American soldiers die in Iraq in the past few years. While any loss of life pains me - being former military myself - during WWII we lost ten thousand people a day.

As for China..... I believe the fact that our Navy and Air Force is larger and stronger puts us on top. If you can't control the oceans you can't control shit, and if you don't own the skies.... your troops can't move. You can have five million China men but if they are pinned down from the air and can't move it's just going to be a shooting gallery and a slaughter.

Beside, China can never ever attack the US. It will never happen.

There was only one main problem with Vietnam....politicians.
There were so many rules of engagement, that nothing could be done.

When the rules were temporarily lifted, we kicked ass and took names....then the bleeding hearts pulled it back again.

Not to mention their information warfare, where they are light years ahead of us. The second we declare war on China, all of the lights in the USA will go out.

riiiiiiiggghhttt

your foil hat is getting too tight

Whoa Whoa Whoa, hold on a minute....Who the fuck put France?! Strong armies don't have the reputation of surrendering. Come on now.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/...fsurrender.jpg

http://www.indstate.edu/iq/Geek_Issue/Images/3.jpg
Nothing can hold them back.

USA hasnt won a war in 40 years.

Usa Russia China

Israel (pound for pound)

USA army can suck on a Vietnamese cock! LOL

bitter party of you...table is ready

Dude, that was a long time ago. Why not say Italy's army sucks because the Roman empire fell apart. It's time to move on.

The first Gulf War. We got Iraq out of Kuwait and that was the goal of the war. When was the last war that say Germany won?

Yes, you're right, it's time to move on to Irak, where you are getting your asses served on a platter once again by a country the size of my cock. And just like in Vietnam, this is another bullshit war, fought over bullshit reasons, where thousands and thousands of people will lose their lives (with no clear end in sight) over some bullshit. And just like back then, you have people ignorant enough inside the US to actually back this war and support the president as he fucks up a country half way across the world, leaving thousands dead, homeless and more poor then before, and using bullshit like FREEDOM and LIBERATION as the excuse.

So tell me, is it time to move on? Was Vietfuckingnam that long ago? Your country is so fucked up I swear it sickens me to my fucking stomach.

How do you figure we are getting our asses served on a platter? I'm not saying we're winning or losing, but whats the ratio of US casualties to Iraqi casualties? We all know what your views on the war and the US are, you don't have to put it into every thread you post in.

Shows how little you know. Short of invading N Vietman full bore which we would never do no matter what the politics were the best we would ever hope for in Viet Nam was a Korea like state. Which means we'd still be there like Korea with 25k-50k soldiers guarding a border for eternity.

Negro please.....we took over the whole fucking country in 3 weeks.

5,000 dead americans vs. 750,000 dead iraqi's

wow yeah I guess we are really losing big time.

dumbass

And fuck Vietnam...yeah I guess they were the big winners.

I live in a nice house and not a grass hut, they are living it up eating fish head soup and almost having running water

Compare whom is fighting whome, with what weapons, support and technology and I would say that number of cuasualties can be thrown out the window.

ummm - didn't the US army give up in vietnam?

So then what do you base your opinion that we are getting our asses served on a platter then? Media bias? Propaganda? Statistics?

Fuck your big house. They were living in huts and eating fish before you got there, and they are doing in after they kicked you the fuck out.

The simple fact that you can't win.

Let's get the number straight ok

Iraq so far 3600

Durring WWII there might have been a FEW days were we lost that many over all the average was 350 a day. Also not to disrespect the men and women in Iraq risking there lives there is a HUGE difference between WWII and this war. If we never invaded Iraq, Saddam is still in power and is mainly being a pain in the ass to his own people. If we never get involved in WWII we have the Nazi flag flying above the White House.

Pretty much, yeah. Russia would be the most inferior on that list.

Yes I do.

"3,601 dead. 7,949 wounded - medical air transport required. 18,609 wounded - no medical air transport required. Off all the wounded 11,959 were unable to return to duty within 72 hours. An additional 7,324 non-hostile injuries, and 20,365 diseases or other medical conditions (all requiring medical air transport). 35,638 total medical air transports (hostile and non-hostile). As of 7 July 2007"

"Beside, China can never ever attack the US. It will never happen."

If Rochard said it must be true:1orglaugh

To all the morons that are bringing up Viet Nam:


We won EVERY SINGLE major battle in that conflict. We did not pull out due to military factors but political ones.


Just wanted to clarify.

Doesn't seem like much to base an opinion on. I agree that fighting the mindset that these terrorists have is damn near, if not impossible to beat, but saying that we are getting our asses handed to us based on "the simple fact that we can't win" seems a little much. Am I wrong? I know it's the cool thing to say nowadays, but maybe there should be something behind it rather then another opinion.

The greatest day in my life, was the day my dad came home from Vietnam with his gook ear belt. He made me a belt out of the ears of dead vietnamese women and children. It was awesome, and I still have it hanging on my wall and everytime I feel sad, I play with the ears and it makes me smile

You still lost.

Or what? It was a tie? :1orglaugh

It's not a sporting event, CNN coverage aside. You don't judge who wins a war based on some sort of body count "score". How old are you?

In Vietnam we lost 58,000, they lost 3 million. They won, we lost.

They did win. They are now living in a free country, instead of under an American controlled dictator.

What does your house have to do with Vietnam? Do you think they were trying to invade America? Seriously, how old are you? Were you alive during Vietnam?

I'm sure they have plenty of those over there too.

Oh ok, everything makes sense now. You're a sociopath.

:thumbsup

Doesn't seem like much to base an opinion on. I agree that fighting the mindset that these terrorists have is damn near, if not impossible to beat, but saying that we are getting our asses handed to us based on "the simple fact that we can't win" seems a little much. Am I wrong? I know it's the cool thing to say nowadays, but maybe there should be something behind it rather then another opinion.

next :1orglaugh

PURE IGNORANCE is all this post says.