Dude, do yourself a favor, don't post stupidities in a thread that you don't understand shit about.

Let me know which part I missed. I like to keep up on the latest scams and 16k is impressive.

That is just funny...

he was not under any obligation to help you and he did, from the very start in good faith, man you guys really threw him under the bus

you have to be very very careful before you publicly disparage a business. if there is every a chance of another explanation, you have to consider that very seriously, its not smart to let your emotions affect your decisions like this

disappointing

But surely you know who is receiving the cheque from the stolen traffic, the affiliate code is on the galleries :2 cents:

Good to hear they're helping out now :thumbsup

You don't read well do you? :error

Jeesh. These GTS guys sound like a pack of itchy trigger fingers. That is a dangerous attribute in any business. Good luck to those involved but I would not take those accustaions lightly. If it turns out TMC is not at fault and I was TMC I would sue for defamation in a heart beat. :2 cents:

I don't buy it. teenstarsmagazine is no longer regularly updated and the program is about to be relaunched... no one would bother flooding it with traffic in its current state. The accusations in this thread by GTS are unbelievable.

Again seems like that guy called drininhard or something like that acts like if he cannot read

he writes "ong story short he has benefited off of our traffic"

WHAT TRAFFIC?? I SHOWED TO SARAH THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AT ALL!!!!!! AND I SHOWED HER THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO INCREASE OF SALES!!!!!!! NOT EVEN ONE FUKKING SMALL SALE!!!

I am in contact with ccbill as well already. I will ask them to chime in and confirm about the sales.

Other then that I wonder why I am still replyng to the bullshit htat he is writing and not considering a SERIOUS legal action for diffamation.

Me too..

I fully agree, the accusations are shocking

It shows me once again GTS is a bunch crap, most of their "traffic" isn't worth 1 ruppee.

:2 cents:

I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have nothing to do with it.
You may still be able to help them though. The affiliate who has done this has shown an incredible rise in traffic sent and possible sales sent.
Take a look in your admin for 2 minutes and you will see this affiliate.

Forget about all the threaths and forget about insults. When things like this happen people lose their head. How would you feel when somebody stole 16k from you? Work on your karma and help out other honest people.
:)

do you just not care what anyone thinks of you anymore? your blind asslicking isn't even funny, your just constantly shuffling around on your knees looking for some bro ass to polish... Sarah and Marc are *way* out of line here posting not only this but even more so the threat over at the other board.

after seeing their attitude in this thread i can only wonder if maybe they were singled by someone out to waste their traffic in this worthless fashion just because they are assholes..

TMC is saying traffic (and sales) never arrived to them, and said that they sent their server stats info to GTS as proof. $16k in traffic should be noticeable.

This is unreal. I don't think I can really say more than that.

Read thread again and again till you find the reason why.

Um do you read? Its already been stated by everyone on both sides that there is no affiliate code in use.

Redirected to installers, read the whole thread.

Alexa agrees with TMC I see now.
Which means there is only one option left: Trojan installs.

Oh baby I do read but I dont take everything I read for granted. Do you?
Pages can be changed.
The original gallery could be changed or maybe just the signup page. I checked after reading. Did you?
Did you check cached versions? Did you check the domain? Did you check Alexa? Neh I think you just read this thread. Did you also find out they have a secondary biller called segpay?
:thumbsup

The important thing is that the traffic was never delivered to TMC, hence the importance of the server stats. Traffic can arrive to a paysite all day long without referral codes and it would still make money for the site owner.

And this is under the assumption that the correct server stats were shown.

I am fully agree with you and that's why I did 2 things

1) I have tried to search for an affiliate with the name or email or other info that Sarah gave me and nothing came up.

2) I have searched for any NEW affiliate sending MORE traffic and even here NO LUCK of course as the site have had ABSOLUTELY NO INCREASE OF TRAFFIC DURING THE LAST MONTHS (repeated many times)


LET'S repeat it once again: IF an affilaite would have bought 16k of spots AN HUGE AMOUNT he would have sent TONS more of traffic!!! Once again there is NO SIGN of increase of traffic AT ALL! Same for the sales
We have not bene working on teh old sites liek teenstarsmagazine as we are workign hard to relaunch the program in about 3 or 4 weeks.
Then we will work like crazy to promote it and get some traffic.

Liek I wrote before I have already talked with CCbill asking to chime in and confirm what I say.

Other then that if someone wants still accouse us just to support marc then go on. Don't worry I really don't care.

I have colaborated to help them as much as I could!

Here is my conversation between me and SARAH of GTS. This was the very first time I talked with her.
The first thing that she did was sending me the link to this thread with their accuse agaisnt me.


TheSettler ‎(1.27):
sicnerely I don't really care if someone thinks that I could be using fake credit cards to send traffic to me. If that's what that threas is stating. I never did it and I will never do it.
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.27):
Hi there, we have a HUGE problem, been trying to reach you for a few hours
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.27):
hey listen,
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.27):
I'm wondering if this is an affiliate of yours, and if you can help me get me some info on him
TheSettler ‎(1.28):
of course I can give you ALL the info but I need an ID or SOMETHING TO find him!!
TheSettler ‎(1.28):
I am not Coppeerfiled.
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.28):
one second, I'll get you a copy of his galleries he was using
TheSettler ‎(1.28):
I need an ID
TheSettler ‎(1.28):
not agallery
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.28):
<only teen files .com/tf/abril/01/>
TheSettler ‎(1.29):
why don't you ask to the hosting provider?
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.29):
if you click through that to your site, I can't see an affiliate ID; but at the purchase page there is an account number
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.29):
I wonder if that is your affiliate ID
TheSettler ‎(1.29):
can you give me teh link of the account?
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.30):
we come after YOU because at the end of the day YOU benefit from all of the sales and hold this scammers money
TheSettler ‎(1.30):
the main account ofr ALL the affiliates is 924891
TheSettler ‎(1.30):
ok but what can I do?
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.31):
tell me who your affiliate is, or I'm assuming it was you
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.31):
this was a SHIT load of traffic, you would have been bombarded for the past month
----- then I showed her that there have been NO INCREASE OF TRAFFIC ---
TheSettler ‎(1.31):
tell me how can I find him and I will do it. Or oyu can assume whatever you want. I don't really care
TheSettler ‎(1.31):
HEAR ME NOW
TheSettler ‎(1.31):
OPEN YOUR EARS
TheSettler ‎(1.31):
I AM TIRED OF ALL THIS SHIT THAT IS GOING ON LATELY
TheSettler ‎(1.31):
I DO EVERYTHIGN CLEAN AND STRAIGHT
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.32):
the info we have is "Mark Hartley" [email protected]"
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.32):
domain, "onlyteenfiles.com"
TheSettler ‎(1.32):
ok now i search in the affiliates databases if there is that person
TheSettler ‎(1.32):
why don't you go to the HOSTING PROVIDDERS?!?!?!?!?
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
YOU owe us the money
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
because all sales went to YOU
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
me?!?!?!?!!?
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
yup
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
you msut be using HEAVY DRUGS
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
do you know DrinkingHard?
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
no
--------- then after searching in the CCBILL control panel for this phantomatic scammer --------
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
whatever i put in the fields
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
the email you gave me
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
or the name
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
or the fukkign surname
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
it says:
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
* There are no items to display in the current view
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.34):
he is the owner of Gallery Traffic Service, and my husband, and very very upset right now he is going to contact you
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
i am here to COLABORATE but if you still acucse me of somethign that is not true I just joing to block you
TheSettler ‎(1.35):
if he is upset tell him to go to the police
TheSettler ‎(1.35):
so chill down
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.35):
fine we will just ruin your reputation and ban your program from all of our traffic sources
TheSettler ‎(1.35):
or bye
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.36):
what should happen here is you should be telling me which affiliate was all of a sudden sending you mass amounts of traffic in the past month, check the referring sites; teeniefiles, lumberjacklinks, bunnyteens etc
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
I have NOT HAD ANY MASS AMOUTN OF TRAFFIC
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.37):
you should be shutting down his account, and paying us the $14k he owes us


I have been TOO RUDE?!?! LOOOOOOL!!! I have TRIED my best to REMAIN CALM even if she kept accousing me and treating me! And even if she did that I have searched in teh ccbill database and showed her stats and all...

Then marc contacted me:

here is his VERY FIRST MESSAGES he sents to me and the conversation:

DrinkingHard ‎(1.34):
DrinkingHard (5191566) has added you
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
we're contacting ccbill and going to ask them to shut you down
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
you're done in the industry
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
good bye
TheSettler ‎(1.35):
yeah for doign NOTHING?!?!?!
TheSettler ‎(1.38):
AND STRAIGHT
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
I AM ALWAYS CLEAN
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
AND YOU KEEP ACCOUSING ME
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
I DID NOTHING
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
you are held accountable for what your affiliates do
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
this is INCREDIBLE
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
it
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
you profiteered off
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
plain and simple
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
one of your affiliates (if not you) fucked us
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
regardless if we get our money or not
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
in this industry
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
it doesn't even matter, because we will ruin you
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
bye
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
ok
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
and they will find who that person is
DrinkingHard ‎(1.36):
bye
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
so plea eGO TO THE POLICE
DrinkingHard ‎(1.36):
Fine, our lawyers will be in touch
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
and I did NOTHIGN WRONG
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
I ahev nothign to hide
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
we're in touch with them right now
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
you better get in touch with ccbill
DrinkingHard ‎(1.35):
we're in touch with them right now
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
I ahev nothign to hide
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
and I did NOTHIGN WRONG
DrinkingHard ‎(1.36):
Fine, our lawyers will be in touch
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
so plea eGO TO THE POLICE
DrinkingHard ‎(1.36):
bye
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
and they will find who that person is
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
ok
TheSettler ‎(1.36):
bye
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
it doesn't even matter, because we will ruin you
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
in this industry
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
regardless if we get our money or not
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
one of your affiliates (if not you) fucked us
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
plain and simple
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
you profiteered off
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
it
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
this is INCREDIBLE
DrinkingHard ‎(1.37):
you are held accountable for what your affiliates do
TheSettler ‎(1.37):
I DID NOTHING

I will keep replyng here until will be showed that we are CLEAN.
We want to relaunch TMC the best way and we are workign since 10 months to do that.
We will show how much clean we are and how much support we can give.

We use SEGPAY for visitors that came to the site without any referral link
If you go to one of the incrimated galleries like
only teen files . com/tf/abril/01/ (remove the spaces between only and teen and files and the dot) you will see that you will reach the CCBILL join page.

I can take a screen capture of the converastion and post it as well if someone wants jsut to show it.
Jsut ask it and I will do it no problem.

Wow that Sarah and Marc are some ignorant assholes!

Sara is giving JaneB a run for her money. :1orglaugh

That icq chat is insane. Im starting to believe Mark is a total lunatic living in a fantasy world.

Even if tmc_producer is the guy who ripped off GTS, then still GTS should be more professional then this.

But I doubt if tmc_producer has anything to do with this scam

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tmc_producer is an old very bad name created some time ago adn it SOUNDS HORRIBLE! Is there any way to change it? You can call me Steve...

Independent of this Alexa stats back up your words that there has not been an increase of traffic to TMC. So I can only conclude that the traffic did not even reach your tour.
Looks like somebody did jump the gun.

I seriously dont think ive seen anything like this in my 6 years on gfy.

And even worse, up till THIS point they are STILL blaming him!

Those icq logs are so sad it's almost funny yes.

I tell you what. If someone came to me asking for MY HELP finding someone that defrauded THEM, and talked to me like that?

I'd tell them all to go suck an AIDS dick.

The professional way to have handled that would have been a nice, calm phone call explaining the situation, and asking for any assistance that could be provided.

I would then tell them that I can't release any of my affiliates information without a warrant from a judge requiring it, but would be more than happy to protect any and all records related to that affiliate and make sure said records and server logs are preserved in such a way that it can be helpful to law enforcement. I'd also assure them that I'd certainly cooperate with law enforcement in any other way that I could.

I'd even be happy to provide them with the name and number of someone at the FBI's White Collar Crimes Division.

If there WERE no affiliates of mine involved, and they were mistaken, I would calmly tell them so. If they insisted, and then started THREATENING ME demanding that I give them money that I don't owe them, or else they'll "ruin my reputation", I'd tell them to talk to their attorney to have him explain extortion and defamation laws to them.

Just asinine. Who the hell would want their sites to be represented by that type of unprofessional muck-a-muck anyway?

I'm sorry to hear that these traffic brokers were victimized by a white collar criminal, but I'd also hate to see other innocent people victimized as well by their unprofessional handling of the situation.

Unfuckingbelievable. "We will ruin you". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If someone threatened my CCBill merchant account I would be PISSED.... way more than you are now. Especially if you didn't do anything wrong. Did CCBill contact you on any of this or was it a hollow threat?


That log was nuts.

I'm sensing this thread will be locked shortly.

Im sensing nothing will happen. Mark wont be banned while about 95&#37; of the other people on this board would be banned after page 2 if they didnt take their words back. Also all the bro's will continue to say what a top notch person Mark is with a stand up company.