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Evil-Dan 07-24-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
I have so many great Joe E stories from conventions I can write a book...
But one memory of Joe maks me laugh harder than anything else.

One night while walking through the Venetian at 3 am Joe, myself, Big Scotty- ( his bodyguard who died in R&B singer AALIYAH'S plane crash) RB from Maxcash, Jeff Newman who owned Busty-Amateurs.com along with his new flame at the time Busty Angel, who later went on to be known as the porn star Angel Cassidy were all talking next to a table in the casino- the next thing we know a casino host comes out from nowhere with two security guys and ask Joe if he'd like the table set up to play- the table was empty.

He says "ok, fuck it"- and the host makes the table $500 a hand- I had all of $100 in my pocket and a net worth of maybe $1000 in the bank at the time- I tell Joe it's to rich for my blood- he says " fuck you hahahahahaha, you are going to sit and play with me and hands me $4,000 in chips!!!

I sit and play with all of the guys at the table and start winning- I get up to $6,000 and I give him his $4000 back. I am now playing with the casino's money and having the time of my life. Jeff leaves totake a piss and without a second to hesitate, Joe says to Angel " I'll give you this black chip if you show me your tits" and Angel in a matter of a second took her " I Love Porn" baby doll t and pulled it over her head!

Joe flicks her a chip and Jeff comes back and we all act as if nothing happened- she put the chip in her shorts.

You can imagine at 4 am now we are all a bit drunk and laughing at Joe he was insane and would do insane things at the table. One being that a few webmasters would stop and talk to him while he was playing cause they'd see $100,000 in chips in front of him and him playing $20,000 hands- (mind you this wasn't in the high limit room, this was part of Joe's marketing ways) One webmaster stops and shakes Joe hand in the middle of him being dealt his cards, he gets up and takes a walk with this webmaster around the casino having a private business chat! The host and dealer gladly waited for him to come back before dealing another card- 15 mins went by with no Joe!

He gets back to the table and says he has to take a piss-leaves and goes to the restroom in the casion and goes missing for another 15 mins.

RB says "I need to go find Joe" and leaves for the restroom- RB comes out of the restroom 5 mins later laughing hysterically with Joe following up close behind looking real woozy. RB tries to tell us what he had just witnessed in the restroom and could hardly get a word out of his mouth he was laughing so hard he couldn't breathe! RB calms down and explains that Joe went into the bathroom to do a line of coke- Joe locked himself in the handicapped stall and laid out a thickie the size of Summerlin on the handrail next to the toilet- as Joe went to approach his line of Yayo, he misjudged the distance between the rail and tile wall that was three inches behind and must have knocked himself out he found him lying next to the toilet on the floor with a knot on his head.
10 mins later Angel and Jeff leave they had enough of Joe by 6 am, and RB started losing so he left as well which left me with Joe, two hookers and my now $3,000 fortune which I decided was enough for me to walk out of the casino with.

Joe looks at me and says you cannot leave, that is my money you have there, and you are coming to my room and we are going to fuck these whores now!

He had that crazy look in his eyes and I looked at him and said " I'll be right back" and sprinted faster than Jesse Owens to my room.

The next day I awake at 8 pm- and there were 15 crazy messages on my phone from Joe...all were incoherent until he mentioned he paid $15,000 to have Houston the porn star in his room and he was getting ready to bang her...

I was kinda dating Houston at the time so he knew he got me good.
To this day, I still don't know if he banged her or not, my money says he did.

Joe was one of a kind.
I once went to Solid Gold with him in Ft Lauderdale and had steaks with him- after dinner he threw $20,000 in funny money up in the air just so he could see chicks bending over and picking up his cash-

For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.

You think this business is fun now?
You have no idea what it used to be like when guys like Joe, RB, and Ron Levi would spend $500,000 to a million bucks a tradeshow on parties and entertaining.

Those days are long gone......

thanks for putting all the effort into that story. i was going to put up my little Joe E momento and realized you captured the essence of the man so well. For me I liken the folks of that era as true pirates. Once you know who these people are/were, you soon come to understand that if you were in their shoes you probably would have been just the same. This is when you can stop being a hater, and just see it for what it is.

Joe E was a true character of his time, and it was certainly a memorable moment in my life when I got to hang with him for a night. The stories which included his sinking boat, the keys he gave me to his car, the nice steak at the strip club restaurant, the strippers we had hanging from us all night and then the feeling of being a dick when I had to leave him in a late night bar at 6am to go have a breakfast meeting with Bobby Cox of iBill at 7am.

But the one fact that most people miss about the man is how much of a regular Joe he really is. Without saying too much here in public, the most important thing I learned about Joe that night was his love of his family.

Rock on Joe E.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-24-2007 04:35 PM

Here is my story about Joe E.

Was in Vegas I think 99 show maybe 2000.
I was in an elevator, I recognised em. He had some blond with em I am not sure who it was, kinda hawt big tits and kinda strung out looking herself.
He stood there and staired at me like a fucking psycho. I knew who he was and didnt say a thing. The guy terrified me. His eyes were fucking dialated to shit and what was left of the whites in his eyes was blood shot. He was on some heavy shit obviously. He looked almost as if he was about to fucking freak out in the elevator.

The blond was afraid em also, she looked scared out of her mind. She looked at me nervously and if I could read her thoughts she was saying get the fuck out of here this guy is going to kill me.
It was like 4 or 5 in the morning.

I got a pretty good intuition about people.
This guy was going down and going down hard in some way.

I didnt dare say a thing to the guy...

He was that fucking scary.
THank god I had to get off the elevator before him.

Phoenix 07-24-2007 04:46 PM

first time i went to his house party in florida he threw money in the pool and a bunch of people dove into get it.....funny to watch:)

OY 07-24-2007 05:01 PM

I miss Joe. Had some of my best times with and around him back in the 90s.

GatorB 07-24-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.

Making $5000 a month would mean you make more than 70% of American workers. And it's 5X more than the current minimum wage. Why would you be living in your parents basement with that kind of income?

Rochard 07-24-2007 05:08 PM

I remember when I was new to the industry attending the Ice Cold Cash party at his house in Florida. I remember being stunned by the cars, the house on the water, the boat......

Very impressive. He was an interesting character!

cj_purve 07-24-2007 05:20 PM

Joe was the american version of Greg Lasrado. Too much money too quickly with absolutely no self esteem. The throwing money around, showing off, trying to get people to like him by giving them money, then when he got so full of himself he screwed anyone who he thought he was better than.

I had a lot of time for Joe in the early days - he was funny, and he has a really sweet little boy in there somewhere but the amount of chemicals that went in there are bound to turn someone into a mess. He fucked over a few friends of mine on his way out of the business, and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when someone with that much money takes from someone without.

I'd love to see Joe scrap the drugs and turn his life into something useful - because there really was a decent guy in there once and I hope he doesn't go the path of our Aussie version and end up a common street junkie with nothing and nobody to show for his efforts.

Is he really playing beach volleyball and looking after himself? I'd buy *that* man a drink anyday ...

cj_purve 07-24-2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.


KB, so what ...
He used to spend SO MUCH money to make that and back in those days $2million a month earnings for someone who spent hundreds of thousands on advertising, almost 6 figures on show booths and i'm sure several hundred thousand a month on hookers and drugs really wasn't that big of an achievement. JB did a great job keeping that program afloat after the lifestyle took over Joe.

It didn't take a rocket surgeon to make money back then ... but many of us were too stupid to realize it wasn't always going to be that way - myself included - and lived lifestyles we thought we deserved and patted ourselves on the back for being such great business people.

There was only a handful of business people in the industry back then and most have gone on to bigger and better things.

Why are you still so impressed by money, drugs & prostitutes after all you've been through? This thread sounds like you miss the stuff more than the person ...

Evil-Dan 07-24-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
I have so many great Joe E stories from conventions I can write a book...
But one memory of Joe maks me laugh harder than anything else.

One night while walking through the Venetian at 3 am Joe, myself, Big Scotty- ( his bodyguard who died in R&B singer AALIYAH'S plane crash) RB from Maxcash, Jeff Newman who owned Busty-Amateurs.com along with his new flame at the time Busty Angel, who later went on to be known as the porn star Angel Cassidy were all talking next to a table in the casino- the next thing we know a casino host comes out from nowhere with two security guys and ask Joe if he'd like the table set up to play- the table was empty.

He says "ok, fuck it"- and the host makes the table $500 a hand- I had all of $100 in my pocket and a net worth of maybe $1000 in the bank at the time- I tell Joe it's to rich for my blood- he says " fuck you hahahahahaha, you are going to sit and play with me and hands me $4,000 in chips!!!

I sit and play with all of the guys at the table and start winning- I get up to $6,000 and I give him his $4000 back. I am now playing with the casino's money and having the time of my life. Jeff leaves totake a piss and without a second to hesitate, Joe says to Angel " I'll give you this black chip if you show me your tits" and Angel in a matter of a second took her " I Love Porn" baby doll t and pulled it over her head!

Joe flicks her a chip and Jeff comes back and we all act as if nothing happened- she put the chip in her shorts.

You can imagine at 4 am now we are all a bit drunk and laughing at Joe he was insane and would do insane things at the table. One being that a few webmasters would stop and talk to him while he was playing cause they'd see $100,000 in chips in front of him and him playing $20,000 hands- (mind you this wasn't in the high limit room, this was part of Joe's marketing ways) One webmaster stops and shakes Joe hand in the middle of him being dealt his cards, he gets up and takes a walk with this webmaster around the casino having a private business chat! The host and dealer gladly waited for him to come back before dealing another card- 15 mins went by with no Joe!

He gets back to the table and says he has to take a piss-leaves and goes to the restroom in the casion and goes missing for another 15 mins.

RB says "I need to go find Joe" and leaves for the restroom- RB comes out of the restroom 5 mins later laughing hysterically with Joe following up close behind looking real woozy. RB tries to tell us what he had just witnessed in the restroom and could hardly get a word out of his mouth he was laughing so hard he couldn't breathe! RB calms down and explains that Joe went into the bathroom to do a line of coke- Joe locked himself in the handicapped stall and laid out a thickie the size of Summerlin on the handrail next to the toilet- as Joe went to approach his line of Yayo, he misjudged the distance between the rail and tile wall that was three inches behind and must have knocked himself out he found him lying next to the toilet on the floor with a knot on his head.
10 mins later Angel and Jeff leave they had enough of Joe by 6 am, and RB started losing so he left as well which left me with Joe, two hookers and my now $3,000 fortune which I decided was enough for me to walk out of the casino with.

Joe looks at me and says you cannot leave, that is my money you have there, and you are coming to my room and we are going to fuck these whores now!

He had that crazy look in his eyes and I looked at him and said " I'll be right back" and sprinted faster than Jesse Owens to my room.

The next day I awake at 8 pm- and there were 15 crazy messages on my phone from Joe...all were incoherent until he mentioned he paid $15,000 to have Houston the porn star in his room and he was getting ready to bang her...

I was kinda dating Houston at the time so he knew he got me good.
To this day, I still don't know if he banged her or not, my money says he did.

Joe was one of a kind.
I once went to Solid Gold with him in Ft Lauderdale and had steaks with him- after dinner he threw $20,000 in funny money up in the air just so he could see chicks bending over and picking up his cash-

For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.

You think this business is fun now?
You have no idea what it used to be like when guys like Joe, RB, and Ron Levi would spend $500,000 to a million bucks a tradeshow on parties and entertaining.

Those days are long gone......

thanks for putting all the effort into that story. i was going to put up my little Joe E momento and realized you captured the essence of the man so well. For me I liken the folks of that era as true pirates. Once you know who these people are/were, you soon come to understand that if you were in their shoes you probably would have been just the same. This is when you can stop being a hater, and just see it for what it is.

Joe E was a true character of his time, and it was certainly a memorable moment in my life when I got to hang with him for a night. The stories which included his sinking boat, the keys he gave me to his car, the nice steak at the strip club restaurant, the strippers we had hanging from us all night and then the feeling of being a dick when I had to leave him in a late night bar at 6am to go have a breakfast meeting with Bobby Cox of iBill at 7am.

But the one fact that most people miss about the man is how much of a regular Joe he really is. Without saying too much here in public, the most important thing I learned about Joe that night was his love of his family.

Rock on Joe E.

cj_purve 07-24-2007 05:47 PM

Your point about 'we would all be the same' isn't exactly true. I used to think that too and that's how I justified being an asshole. The truth is, not everyone behaves like an asshole when they have money. Joe did, I did, you did, but not everyone.

You brought up another name that's been on all of our minds the last week here in Brisbane - and I'm sure in lots of places around the world.

Bob Cox passed away last week. Its been a very nostalgic week thinking back on some of the old days we used to share with him.

nico-t 07-24-2007 05:54 PM

lately since the bros have been exposed how they conduct business and finally get a little more resistance, i see them referring to 'the old days' etc etc. when they were starting out and not yet all over eachothers dicks, saying that were good times and that most of the people now dont know them (a lame hint saying peeps who dont know the dinosaurs are "noobs").
All i can say is - times change. Get used to it. Suck it up. Move on.

cj_purve 07-24-2007 06:08 PM

nico-t, well said!

the old days were great, but its funny how we all remember them differently ...

TheAmericanCannibal 07-24-2007 09:21 PM

CJ I don't miss the old days- I miss the "hustle" of the old days and the innovators of this biz.

This business has become too homogenized and very unoriginal.
Those are two words you could never say about Joe.

The first time I met Joe was over the phone when I worked for YNOT and he owed us $40,000 I threatened to come down and pay him a visit and was relentless in my collections for Rick Muenyoung-

He ended up asking me what I was doing that night ( it was a Friday) the next thing I know - he had booked me two first class tickets to Lauderdale that evening and made me an offer once I got there to run his new magazine, KLIXXX.
I told him NO but he had already put me on his payroll at $300 a week just to write an article or two-

He paid me for 6 mos and I never did anything- I also told him numerous times to quit sending me checks- but he still did.

:)

marketsmart 07-24-2007 09:49 PM

you are so full of shit, its ridiculous..... jb has the true pulse on this thread... its a shame about the whole joe e story... thats all i have to say about that..

marketsmart 07-24-2007 09:52 PM

and btw... KB... do you think people here are so fucking stupid or new that they cant see that every one of your threads has some sort of self serving purpose... like this one for example: "you have been in the business so long..."

if it wasnt out of respect for d, you would have been run out of this industry long ago...

sextoyking 07-24-2007 10:14 PM

Funny Story Kb.

I always had love / good feelings for Joe, he was always a mench to me.

I know he had issues with some and of course JB, none of my biz so... Jb was also cool beans all the time.

Man alot of stories out there about Joe.. Besides all the partying, getting fucked up, etc he was pretty damm good at marketing and spreading the word / love of TCG.. I knew when he would post about his X and Daughter in MI or some state that way that he was good people - I read ppl pretty good and could tell he had a big heart for his family - / daughter...


My fondest wild night was at the first or 2 jamaica convention with Dokk, staying at the white hotel I think, Charlatin??? (sp), Me and Fletch, Joe, and some others were in the Hotel bar getting loose, Joe was getting hammered as hell and then it got loud, think a chair or table got knocked over, and we all ended up outside.

So were at the bottom of some stairs leading up to rooms and Joe is being funny as heck, where is Dokk, Where is Dokk (dokk will always like and enjoy his company btw), I think Dokk came around with some Ganja Cakes (remember those?) and then we ate some, smoked a little and just sat on the steps and laughed and talked for awhile.

Wasn't a big party or anything you know but it was just cool as heck - hanging out, talking about women, etc, etc.

I hope Joe is ok and doing well.....

Busty 07-25-2007 12:24 AM

http://www.busty-amateurs2.com/g/cencash008.jpg

Joe E, me and Jeff

Shit we had a blast with this him, KBizzle remember the party in LA at the strip club guys house who had the Major Domo, or however your pronounce that. As far as Joe E being the American version of Greg, I don't agree. Greg was always well balanced and kept his cool, Joe E could simply get out of control, I remember the 2 shows in New Orleans one year and he was wild.

Good memories of him, always had a blast with him around and I hope he is doing well

G

D-Money 07-25-2007 12:43 AM

Joe E was fun.

Since people are telling stories...

I'll keep mine manly and without tears like he died or something.

We partied in Jamaica.

We got pretty drunk.

Joe started this little game called, "trade punches". At least that's what I'll name it since that's what it was.

He was trying to get me to hit him, so I threw little pussy shots at his arm thinking, I'm not hitting this guy. Then he throws a monster kidney punch, pretty fucking hard, caught me by surprise with that since no one in their right mind would throw a blow like that in my back.

Then I had no issue trading shots, it was more instinctive when someone hits you hard in your kidneys. I just remember throwing a massive shot back to his arm, didn't have the heart to hit his back, at first that is. All he wore in Jamaica were tank tops. His shoulder bruised up pretty fast, I was proud. Looked really good the next day.

Moral of the story. No matter how much someone makes, they bruise just the same. It turned into a funny thing when he'd creep up on me and hit my back, I must have been pretty wasted.

I had a blast with him on that trip. And he snagged my Eek-A-Mouse shirt, to cover his bruise!

Sorry, no drug references, no hookers, no money involved. Just a clean story with a little booze.

As for the old days... Everyone was fucked up then and everyone is fucked up now. Faces change, the game remains the same.

JFK 07-25-2007 12:46 AM

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z03614.jpg

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z03685.jpg

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z03684.jpg

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z03682.jpg

JFK 07-25-2007 12:53 AM

well ok, I had to throw this one in. Its from the party at his house in 03:thumbsup
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z04244.jpg

J$tyle$ 07-25-2007 12:59 AM

Man, SO MANY GOOD JoeE stories!

How'bout some OLD school JoeE circa 99/2000 or so??? :winkwink:

http://blowoutbucks.com/gfy/VegasCrew2.JPG

http://blowoutbucks.com/gfy/joeieg.JPG

http://blowoutbucks.com/gfy/JoeE.JPG

12clicks 07-25-2007 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 12812816)
Man, SO MANY GOOD JoeE stories!

How'bout some OLD school JoeE circa 99/2000 or so??? :winkwink:

http://blowoutbucks.com/gfy/VegasCrew2.JPG

what a great pic.


Funny to see the noobs in this thread explaining how they're the new breed and we're all dinosaurs while they work out of mom's bedroom.:1orglaugh

NoComments 07-25-2007 05:32 AM

No comments.

BT 07-25-2007 05:58 AM

"cash in hand at the microphone stand" Joee is the trend setter but he let his
biz partner flank him out of his own company! HAHA the good old days:1orglaugh

ServerGenius 07-25-2007 06:06 AM

Everybody loves generous Joe except the people who's money he's been
spending. JoeE never earned a buck himself in his whole life.....nuff said.
If you look up the word parasite in a dictionary you'll find a pic of Joe
together with the description.

JFK 07-25-2007 06:06 AM

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...ees/z03580.jpg

12clicks 07-25-2007 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12813517)
Everybody loves generous Joe except the people who's money he's been
spending. JoeE never earned a buck himself in his whole life.....nuff said.
If you look up the word parasite in a dictionary you'll find a pic of Joe
together with the description.

dear broken record, we get it, move on.
We heard you the first and second time.

ServerGenius 07-25-2007 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12813533)
dear broken record, we get it, move on.
We heard you the first and second time.

I'm glad you're paying attention.....

CraigA 07-25-2007 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 12813518)

That's BT who used to work for TCG during the Joee days and afterward. Is this some sort of cryptic message?:winkwink:

BT 07-25-2007 06:55 AM

hahahahahahahaha see you in paradise

Dirty F 07-25-2007 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
I have so many great Joe E stories from conventions I can write a book...
But one memory of Joe maks me laugh harder than anything else.

One night while walking through the Venetian at 3 am Joe, myself, Big Scotty- ( his bodyguard who died in R&B singer AALIYAH'S plane crash) RB from Maxcash, Jeff Newman who owned Busty-Amateurs.com along with his new flame at the time Busty Angel, who later went on to be known as the porn star Angel Cassidy were all talking next to a table in the casino- the next thing we know a casino host comes out from nowhere with two security guys and ask Joe if he'd like the table set up to play- the table was empty.

He says "ok, fuck it"- and the host makes the table $500 a hand- I had all of $100 in my pocket and a net worth of maybe $1000 in the bank at the time- I tell Joe it's to rich for my blood- he says " fuck you hahahahahaha, you are going to sit and play with me and hands me $4,000 in chips!!!

I sit and play with all of the guys at the table and start winning- I get up to $6,000 and I give him his $4000 back. I am now playing with the casino's money and having the time of my life. Jeff leaves totake a piss and without a second to hesitate, Joe says to Angel " I'll give you this black chip if you show me your tits" and Angel in a matter of a second took her " I Love Porn" baby doll t and pulled it over her head!

Joe flicks her a chip and Jeff comes back and we all act as if nothing happened- she put the chip in her shorts.

You can imagine at 4 am now we are all a bit drunk and laughing at Joe he was insane and would do insane things at the table. One being that a few webmasters would stop and talk to him while he was playing cause they'd see $100,000 in chips in front of him and him playing $20,000 hands- (mind you this wasn't in the high limit room, this was part of Joe's marketing ways) One webmaster stops and shakes Joe hand in the middle of him being dealt his cards, he gets up and takes a walk with this webmaster around the casino having a private business chat! The host and dealer gladly waited for him to come back before dealing another card- 15 mins went by with no Joe!

He gets back to the table and says he has to take a piss-leaves and goes to the restroom in the casion and goes missing for another 15 mins.

RB says "I need to go find Joe" and leaves for the restroom- RB comes out of the restroom 5 mins later laughing hysterically with Joe following up close behind looking real woozy. RB tries to tell us what he had just witnessed in the restroom and could hardly get a word out of his mouth he was laughing so hard he couldn't breathe! RB calms down and explains that Joe went into the bathroom to do a line of coke- Joe locked himself in the handicapped stall and laid out a thickie the size of Summerlin on the handrail next to the toilet- as Joe went to approach his line of Yayo, he misjudged the distance between the rail and tile wall that was three inches behind and must have knocked himself out he found him lying next to the toilet on the floor with a knot on his head.
10 mins later Angel and Jeff leave they had enough of Joe by 6 am, and RB started losing so he left as well which left me with Joe, two hookers and my now $3,000 fortune which I decided was enough for me to walk out of the casino with.

Joe looks at me and says you cannot leave, that is my money you have there, and you are coming to my room and we are going to fuck these whores now!

He had that crazy look in his eyes and I looked at him and said " I'll be right back" and sprinted faster than Jesse Owens to my room.

The next day I awake at 8 pm- and there were 15 crazy messages on my phone from Joe...all were incoherent until he mentioned he paid $15,000 to have Houston the porn star in his room and he was getting ready to bang her...

I was kinda dating Houston at the time so he knew he got me good.
To this day, I still don't know if he banged her or not, my money says he did.

Joe was one of a kind.
I once went to Solid Gold with him in Ft Lauderdale and had steaks with him- after dinner he threw $20,000 in funny money up in the air just so he could see chicks bending over and picking up his cash-

For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.

You think this business is fun now?
You have no idea what it used to be like when guys like Joe, RB, and Ron Levi would spend $500,000 to a million bucks a tradeshow on parties and entertaining.

Those days are long gone......

Sounds exactly like the kind of people i wouldnt want anywhere near me. Funny.
White trash with money is still white trash.

Dirty F 07-25-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12813533)
dear broken record, we get it, move on.
We heard you the first and second time.

Its truly amazing the people you defend here. Everytime some scumbag from the past shows up it turns out to be one of your buddies.

Do you all have non scum friends? Just one?

karlm 07-25-2007 07:13 AM

Sounds like a fun guy to be around lol

Evil-Dan 07-25-2007 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12809797)
I have so many great Joe E stories from conventions I can write a book...
But one memory of Joe maks me laugh harder than anything else.

One night while walking through the Venetian at 3 am Joe, myself, Big Scotty- ( his bodyguard who died in R&B singer AALIYAH'S plane crash) RB from Maxcash, Jeff Newman who owned Busty-Amateurs.com along with his new flame at the time Busty Angel, who later went on to be known as the porn star Angel Cassidy were all talking next to a table in the casino- the next thing we know a casino host comes out from nowhere with two security guys and ask Joe if he'd like the table set up to play- the table was empty.

He says "ok, fuck it"- and the host makes the table $500 a hand- I had all of $100 in my pocket and a net worth of maybe $1000 in the bank at the time- I tell Joe it's to rich for my blood- he says " fuck you hahahahahaha, you are going to sit and play with me and hands me $4,000 in chips!!!

I sit and play with all of the guys at the table and start winning- I get up to $6,000 and I give him his $4000 back. I am now playing with the casino's money and having the time of my life. Jeff leaves totake a piss and without a second to hesitate, Joe says to Angel " I'll give you this black chip if you show me your tits" and Angel in a matter of a second took her " I Love Porn" baby doll t and pulled it over her head!

Joe flicks her a chip and Jeff comes back and we all act as if nothing happened- she put the chip in her shorts.

You can imagine at 4 am now we are all a bit drunk and laughing at Joe he was insane and would do insane things at the table. One being that a few webmasters would stop and talk to him while he was playing cause they'd see $100,000 in chips in front of him and him playing $20,000 hands- (mind you this wasn't in the high limit room, this was part of Joe's marketing ways) One webmaster stops and shakes Joe hand in the middle of him being dealt his cards, he gets up and takes a walk with this webmaster around the casino having a private business chat! The host and dealer gladly waited for him to come back before dealing another card- 15 mins went by with no Joe!

He gets back to the table and says he has to take a piss-leaves and goes to the restroom in the casion and goes missing for another 15 mins.

RB says "I need to go find Joe" and leaves for the restroom- RB comes out of the restroom 5 mins later laughing hysterically with Joe following up close behind looking real woozy. RB tries to tell us what he had just witnessed in the restroom and could hardly get a word out of his mouth he was laughing so hard he couldn't breathe! RB calms down and explains that Joe went into the bathroom to do a line of coke- Joe locked himself in the handicapped stall and laid out a thickie the size of Summerlin on the handrail next to the toilet- as Joe went to approach his line of Yayo, he misjudged the distance between the rail and tile wall that was three inches behind and must have knocked himself out he found him lying next to the toilet on the floor with a knot on his head.
10 mins later Angel and Jeff leave they had enough of Joe by 6 am, and RB started losing so he left as well which left me with Joe, two hookers and my now $3,000 fortune which I decided was enough for me to walk out of the casino with.

Joe looks at me and says you cannot leave, that is my money you have there, and you are coming to my room and we are going to fuck these whores now!

He had that crazy look in his eyes and I looked at him and said " I'll be right back" and sprinted faster than Jesse Owens to my room.

The next day I awake at 8 pm- and there were 15 crazy messages on my phone from Joe...all were incoherent until he mentioned he paid $15,000 to have Houston the porn star in his room and he was getting ready to bang her...

I was kinda dating Houston at the time so he knew he got me good.
To this day, I still don't know if he banged her or not, my money says he did.

Joe was one of a kind.
I once went to Solid Gold with him in Ft Lauderdale and had steaks with him- after dinner he threw $20,000 in funny money up in the air just so he could see chicks bending over and picking up his cash-

For all of you keyboard warriors out here making $5,000 a month and living in your parents basement, Joe at that time was making $57,000 a day- and he showed me his stats and accounts.

You think this business is fun now?
You have no idea what it used to be like when guys like Joe, RB, and Ron Levi would spend $500,000 to a million bucks a tradeshow on parties and entertaining.

Those days are long gone......

thanks for putting all the effort into that story. i was going to put up my little Joe E momento and realized you captured the essence of the man so well. For me I liken the folks of that era as true pirates. Once you know who these people are/were, you soon come to understand that if you were in their shoes you probably would have been just the same. This is when you can stop being a hater, and just see it for what it is.

Joe E was a true character of his time, and it was certainly a memorable moment in my life when I got to hang with him for a night. The stories which included his sinking boat, the keys he gave me to his car, the nice steak at the strip club restaurant, the strippers we had hanging from us all night and then the feeling of being a dick when I had to leave him in a late night bar at 6am to go have a breakfast meeting with Bobby Cox of iBill at 7am.

But the one fact that most people miss about the man is how much of a regular Joe he really is. Without saying too much here in public, the most important thing I learned about Joe that night was his love of his family.

Rock on Joe E.

12clicks 07-25-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12813728)
Its truly amazing the people you defend here. Everytime some scumbag from the past shows up it turns out to be one of your buddies.

Do you all have non scum friends? Just one?

please son, anyone taking your definition for "scumbag, cheater, honest, business, etc." won't last in this biz very long.

its amazing the lengths you punks will go to on a chat board to appear relevant.

High Plains Drifter 07-25-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 12813395)
No comments.

You were not making money on the net in 1996. You were barely making money in 1996, not enough to pay for bandwidth and had to chase poor ISP on the parking lot with your car in the begining of 1996.

In March of 1997 you met Serge who blessed Florida with his visit in his beaten up station wagon and who opened your eyes and POCKET to the magic of RECURRING BILLING! By 1998 you were almost in the Big League and now you are a Big Kahoona! You were not anywhere near to in 1996!

seeric 07-25-2007 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12805114)
As this next AVN show in Florida approaches I get a melancholy feeling knowing that I am going to the "land of Elkind" and won't be seeing his crazy smile and antics...
:-((

Man I miss the old days in this business-
I bet many people on this board have no knowledge of who Joe is or more importantly, who he WAS.

Joe was a true pioneer, like him or hate him the man is a legend in this biz...
Who here is with me?

Anyone got any crazy Joe pics?

werd up. that dude is internet porn history. wonder what his crazy ass is doing now?

s9ann0 07-25-2007 08:32 AM

I don't really know him but he bought me a load of alchohol and strippers once late in a strip club after a show once so hes ok by me!

Toplessgoat 07-25-2007 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 12805114)
As this next AVN show in Florida approaches I get a melancholy feeling knowing that I am going to the "land of Elkind" and won't be seeing his crazy smile and antics...
:-((

Man I miss the old days in this business-
I bet many people on this board have no knowledge of who Joe is or more importantly, who he WAS.

Joe was a true pioneer, like him or hate him the man is a legend in this biz...
Who here is with me?

Anyone got any crazy Joe pics?

Don't give up hope, JoeE actually made an appearance at our bikini contest 2 years ago, and I had a chance to speak with him briefly on the phone during last year's show.

JFK 07-25-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toplessgoat (Post 12814055)
Don't give up hope, JoeE actually made an appearance at our bikini contest 2 years ago, and I had a chance to speak with him briefly on the phone during last year's show.

the 1st set of pics are from that Bikini Contest:winkwink:


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