Yo Check it...

I can't continue to argue assumption after assumption and please people who have never even Seen or Used Thunder-Ball.net.

I can say this:

In 7 Months TBN has out run all other trade systems (actually it exceeded them in the first 2 months.. and now after 7 months it DOMINATES). So as not to get personal I will not name them but here are some numbers:

TBN Has:

7,477 Domains in the Trade System
28,944 Ranked Pages
and 93,073 Pages in 151 Categories

Pretty much... any kind of trade you seek... you will find there.

LinkEX can turn your site into a link-farm in less than 6 hours (use that if you want to).

TBN Also has 867,686 Domains in it's tracking system for the WhoIS Function that will be released soon. This function will tell you the IP and noted history of a domains and IP Allocations.


This is THEEE FIRST Person to get Banned and Complain about it. I am the only one who can ban someone and after seeing the history of this particular account I banned him for excessive dropping of links (AKA Dicking People over).

You do not Automatically get banned... I check accounts to see if they have been using them to dick people over.... Indeed this account had been dicking people over... So I Fucking Baned Him.


PLEASE... Do Not Post Negative Comments about your ASSUMPTIONS about a system you have never even used.


If You Don't Want to use it.... Don't Use it...!!!

But I think You will find it a most useful tool



Bond

I will probably use it over the next few days.

So your theory is that leroytrolley and pixiepromo are the same person, that this same person uses one account for shit trades and the other for good trades and that this one person went through the trouble of registering separate domains with separate registration info just to scam your system?

Are you fucking retarded?

I'm not assuming .. I"m asking because i don't know. I'm interested in your service but had questions based on this thread. its a double edge . the thread will get you lots of new people that didn't know about your service but you'll also have to answer a few questions and deal with a few assumptions . all you had to say after my first post was "tell me in advance " and I would have said thanks and opened an account.

Now that i know I just have to tell you if I'm going to have someone else working on it I'll open an account and take a look. I wasn't going to bother before knowing if i could do that.

Thanks for your help .. even if it was like pulling teeth. :)

No offense but, there are as many legitimate reasons for shit going wrong as there are illegitimate reasons, and I think in this particular situation, pixie and leroy deserve a second chance. Do you REALLY think someone would go through all this trouble and fuss just to cheat the system? C'mon...

[QUOTE=leroytrolley;12824262]I just got banned from thunder-ball.

I have my own account, but I have also been doing some work for somebody else.

Their script has noticed the same I.P. address on the same account, and banned both accounts.

I have contacted them via ICQ, but they wont listen to a word of it. They insist that I was being two people using ICQ to convince him that we were two seperate people.

Hi!

If you don't does nothing wrong and help one of your friends... i'm sure you can to share the whois from your domains vs your friend domains public whois. To be honest,, i never had any problem with thunder-ball, there are only honest people. The trades through thunder inserted by hand are online sience from when i sign-up there. Never seen my links offline at other sites.. Thunder ball is an place where honest people exchange links and do biz togethers.
The thunder-ball rules are clear: No more accounts for the same owners - the single way to detect the people with more accounts is the IP. I'm really sory to hear that, you are in my link exchange partner list, i hope to see you soon back!

I had an issue before with my account and he went out of his way to fix it for me through ICQ. I think what set him off is the fact that the guy has 7 people who shitlisted him. So to say it's a good account isn't accurate. Give his system a look, it's been real helpful to a lot of people.

That is the infamous SMVCash. Run a search on GFY and it's insane the scams this guy has pulled. He's ripped off multiple designers and content people. Glad you caught him.

Check again moron.... people do that to SCAM OTHER PEOPLE....

NOT My System Fool... My System Catches them...

I have 46 domain all on different IPs and all in different names. It's Easy to do.

People do that to scam other people, and you've done it on 46 domains? :eek7

They would be cheating other people. The System Catches them... but some think they can slip by.

It's late and I should have been more clear.... my point was... that it is easy to setup a bunch of domains with different names and IPs. I have them so when peopel trade with me they actually get benefit... Multiple exchanges with domains on the Same IP are not worth much.

I was responding to him calling me "Are you fucking retarded?" for thinking that trolly set this whole thing up.. just to scam TBN... Now that assumption is Truly Fuckin retarded.

I know it's easy to do, it was just a rather funny post :)

Still, the different phone numbers are a different matter, since they're verifiable and scammers rarely go through the trouble of setting up working phone numbers for different domains.

As you can see... this is the Exact reason for what may seem like overly strict rules.

I'm sure I speak for all of when I say We Are Sick of Cheaters

There is Absolutely NOTHING to be afraid of at TBN Unless your A Cheater/Scammer

As for "the infamous SMVCash".... You Will see him listed on TBN.... along with his Shit list rating which from what I gather will be quite high.

TBN Will tell you of these people... Even if they don't signup... The Spider Finds You.... There is No Escape.

Bond

Her, not him.

And yes, your assumption that leroytrolley set this whole thing up just to scam TBN is truly fuckin' retarded. At least we agree on that.

Now that I remember..... Trolly actually had an account on the OLD system I had about 2 years ago... He dropped all his links then too.

That one was not open to the public... but people were asking me to sell it to them constatnly. So... Finally I made a public version.

My point is... he has not changed....

And my point is that you're fucking retarded.

how does linkEx would do your site linkfarm in 6 hours? don't get it. i think i have an acct on thunderball but never use it dunno why maybe too much in my plate i forgotten the site.. im loking for a system which i could add trades and the sytem will pull down the links to other sites if it never finds it.. linkEx is good i used it with cron to pull/inactivate trades that pulling my links. although its kinda tiring installing it on a network of sites EACH. do i need to install thunderball in my server or its something to include on my page a script or something like include? i will check TBN again..

is it possible if i have someone logging on my acct? another computer/from other place (my partner)? or its a banable offense as well as using 2 computers in my house just to access TBN? i hope thats fine..

Incorrect.

Incorrect again. THese domains have nothing to do with me.

I have been on peoples LinkEx sites that allow you to add as many links as you want with the Same 1 Fucking Recip on your site. I setup like 10 links to my 1 on one guys site (but it was a friend of mine... I knew him I was just fucking with him to show him the problem)

NO installation.... Optional Include file compatable with ANYTHING that can pull a URL. PHP, ASP, etc


I can't open up the floodgates to scammers to test here..... What I can say is that duplicate usage gets automatically Flagged. I maually check the accounts and if the accounts look shitty.... They Get Banned

If you need special arrangements.. all you need to is as... which MANY people have on many occasions.


The System is VERY simple... only this thread has caused so many questions



Bond

Read the POST Moron.... I was talking about "Infamous Cheater mySpace Hotty"

Unless thats you??

Yes your right. My apologise.

What is that with dropping links = cheating.

Just as with traffic trades when trade goes down it goes down. Every self respecting trader has a script that keep track on there trades. Sometimes things just happens.

When i look to the trades on my sites, most of them are set by my partner traders. Only in 10% of the cases i find contact info. How can I contact them to say that I take my site down or even don't want to trade with them anymore because of conflict of sponsor. And what do you think of database blown up. How much of you guys have a back up of there trades?

Simple drop the trades, there trade script supposed to see it within 24 hours and if not stop living in the year 1995 and take a good trade script and spend a view dollars.

It amazes me that anyone would even consider using this service now. The money I do still make from porn I'd rather not lose and as with all of my business matters I won't work with any company or individual who cannot act in a professional manner. Hence I'll no longer consider using this system. A shame as I was looking at a big update to one of my older sites and it looked promising.

But then that's adult all over. People will continue to work with a service or person that cannot act in any kind of professional manner at all, then cry when they get screwed over. The best thing about GFY is it shows those with half a clue who not to work with as seems to be the case with this thread.

Who the fuck is James Bond? Not very good pr for thunderball...

lol
Thunder-ball don't need an good page rank..it's very popular and all services are free, is one of the best trade sistem! Do you will can to build other more better?!

public relations :)

yay thanks mr bond. i will check TBN later on if i have more question i will hit you up :) hope thats fine..

a few facts from a guy sat on a fence (not a sheep)
 

Heres my experience of Thunder-ball, whether its relevant or not, its fact.Also what id imagine a common average reflection. Now as for tools and links I use Kaktusans Link Organiser as its the best thing out there for knowing all about your trades and definately the best deterrent to shady bastards who from the moment they connect with you have no intentions but to steal your traffic,that said when I found thunder-ball I found it to be similar in its ways but rather than wait for "honest" people to use your form TBN kinda gave you the "honest " people in a big crowd for the taking/dealing efficiently and at what turns out to be.. the quickest "honest" link collecting I am yet to find in the business.I assume Mr Bond intended on a place to be like a meeting of like minds who have like us all..been cheated once or twice by cheeky naive bastards.So I got the hang of how it works with some help from Mr Bond because like he says hes there to help,even if it is with the odd "FUCK" in his communication...(which I think I can forgive swearing as i dont throw stones in this glass house) and built up a good flow of "honest" links with "honest" people from the huge selection of well categorized trades on offer. Now regarding the shitlist..well ive had reservations on how accurately reflective it is of a person,as we all know thereare those out there who will shitlist you or post you in a forum for petulant things such as choosing to not work with them or agree with them even, hence im shitlisted 4 times myself ...lol.. the price of an opinion it seems. But I also have like 50 people in TBN who do work with me who know better..which is when the balance/ratio of the shitlist system becomes apparent. When i went to view the banned list it was interesting to see the names. Id say half of them didnt suprise me as they were the type you skipped when choosing from the menu,there was also 2 names on there I trade with and have had no problems in links or communications with personally, plus another 2 names I trade with who I was reserving judgement on for the following reasons...1 because he hadnt replied to my mails regarding problems verifying a link (dont we all hate no reply mails in this biz) and 2nd because out of 50 people she was the only one that refused to be added as a friend,struck me as odd as I thought the system was set up for this myself hence the whole TBN Profile thing. And now we have a huge thread of these 2 people debating with Mr Bond Rules that alledgedly have been broken. Certainly getting a bit heated :error.....I could of got 20 hardlinks at TBN in the time ive spent reading this .....to conclude id say Kaktusans LO kicks ass but Mr Bonds TBN is pretty "FUCKING" good :pimp

stick to the topic we all know wiki already
 

i see im dealing with spell checkers.. :1orglaugh typical...any inglund in thiz wun yu wana corect foe uz ?

For what it's worth there's a HUGE difference between a little bad spelling and not being able to break a large post up into chunks that are readable.

If you're going to be dragged in by your buddy to say how great he is, you should probably make sure that your post is at least readable. Few, if any will read your original post :2 cents:

Your spelling is fine. And I can deal with spelling mistakes. But your lack of paragraphs just makes your post hard to read.

I stopped reading right there, my eyes hurt now :Oh crap

A Public Apology Has Been Issued by: leroytrolley

The Reason For This Post / Apology

For those of you posting Negative Comments about Thunder-Ball... A system you have Never Even Seen or know anything about...

Thunder-Ball is a Link Trade System Designed to Detect Cheaters

leroytrolley Broke a Major rule on Thunder-Ball and got Banned... and subsequently caused an account he was handeling ( lilpixie ) to get banned



The Broken Rule was/is as Serious as SPAMMING a Message board

When I discovered the problem - I reacted in the Same way a moderator would react to someone SPAMMING GFY... I banned him and didn't give a Fuck what he had to say.


Since The Total Majority of people responding in the thread have Never Even Seen Thunder-Ball.net (and subsequently have no idea how it works or the reason for the Rule). It looked like I was being a TOTAL ASS about the situation.... And I Was (How else would You Treat A SPAMMER ??)


So, to make it clear WHY I had banned him... and Why I was completly without mercy I asked for this Public Apology to lilpixie who had been dragged down in the process.

- This Admits fault on the part of: leroytrolley...
- Absolves lilpixie


And explains the reason why I Banned... and was a Total Ass to leroytrolley


After reading this explanation: Anyone who thinks my actions were wrong... just remember how you deal with SPAMMERS/Cheaters.


Here is a link to the Apology http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/755168-reason-banned-thunder-ball.html


Mr.Bond

So it's ok for you to cheat on ICANN rules about fake registration details?

So it's ok for you to find "work-arounds" (cheating registration details) in order to get around (cheat) search engine rules.

Hmm there's a pot and a kettle around here somewhere.

Imagine if ICANN discovered and took your stance.. Locked down accounts (domains) and crying cheat.

Imagine if google discovered and took your stance.. Banned all your accounts (domains) and crying cheat.

Do you consider yourself a cheat in these instances?

Bond .. I'm glad that you worked it out and I don't think anyone was trying to badmouth your service. I think a lot of people just went off what you said and had questions.

I looked at the site a bit more and the service looks solid but the only thing that turns me off is that you have a very professional looking site but use the word FUCK alot . that's not very professional and you seemed to follow that standard in this thread. why not clean it up and make it look like its run by a company and not a kid in the basement . I'm not saying you are a kid in the basement but I'm saying that's what it looks like with pages like this saying " This is not a fucking script " http://www.thunder-ball.net/Tradegate/ from a sales and marketing background i would suggest that you tone it down a bit. do you see what I'm saying?