fantastic 51!

fantastic 51 !!

lol, you just described the beginnings of what became a pretty big money making machine online... not mentioning any names but their URL looks somewhat like www.**.com..

;)

The whole idea Bt's are just like TGP's is not so. When a bt has a full rip of your whole site there is nothing to sell. TGP's and MGP's are teasers, giving complete episodes for free doesnt convert.It makes them look for more free shit.We wont even get into the amount of people under 18 on these things. This isnt some new hot business model,people dont want to adopt. Its based on theft, if it was so up and up.They wouldnt be hiding in countries, that dont consider copy write laws.
The problem we have is, we have very few industry leaders.If someone who does well that doesnt make them a leader. Someone who takes action is a leader,that may not be popular. Sadly this we dont have and when they wake up it will be too late.

That's a good point...but a lot of us are mavericks by nature. Lone wolfs if you will that don't want a leader. Not saying that's good or bad, just the way it is. I've looked into every legal angle I could find and there is no stopping the guys in Sweden from stealing. And I agree this is not some cool new business model...it's stealing.

And my biggest fear is the U.S. government turning their attention to it. They could use those sites as an excuse to come after all of the legitimate sites. I know, I know...that doesn't make a lot of sense. But has ANYTHING the govt. has done made sense? Those sites are sitting out there giving away entire members areas for free. Every 12 year old with a computer is surfing it. When mom and dad find those vids downloaded on their kids computers do you think the kid is gonna tell WHERE he downloaded them? No.
But our watermarks are right there on the vids for the parents AND the authorities to see.

It's gonna nail all of us.

Trying to do this shit through lawyers isn't gonna work. I already tried. All I did was get charged $450 an hour for nothing.
I don't know any hackers. But I'm starting to think the idea of shutting them down like that would make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. As would meeting some of these guys and beating the living hell out of them.
A more productive idea I saw in this thread was getting those sites OFF of the search engines.

I don't know how to do that. But it does seem to me that a lot of us try REALLY hard to "work" the search engines and end up on the second page of a search for our own websites....because the first page, starting with the number one spot is nothing but bit torrent sites with stolen content.

I agree with the idea that if that can be stopped, then those sites would become nothing more than a minor annoyance.

:/............

Very few people understand the seriousness of these types of things until it happens to them. Well, actually it is happening to them every day, but they don't understand how bad it is until the see it with their own eyes happening to them. Sad, but true fact. Until they see it, everything else is just noise.


The bros will be glad to know you wont be hearing as much out of me for a while. My head hurts, i need a break and have a ton of work to do.

i am still not getting that. if someone will still again and again steal from you in real life and cops and nobody will help, what will you do? find him and kick his ass. so whats the problem with hacking torrent sites? i think on gfy are people who will contact you if they will know the right price ;)

What is really sad is, while it is your purpose to bring this site to the attention of those whose content may be there... You've probably only succeeded in providing the gfy surfers and others with another place to get lots more free porn..

This so-called, "industry" is made up of an unknown number of individuals that, for the most part, aren't the least bit concerned over what a few know to be important issues.

When you have the, professed, "leaders" in the adult business supporting these sites, it can only send the message that, "If the big boys help to keep these sites up, then it must not be a problem."

There is only one way to deal with these types of sites.. but even a full on attack would be a never ending process.. One down - another up..

you have some very valid points .. the only content owners that seem serious about not wanting their entire members area given away are few and far between.

but the "one down another up" theory doesnt wash.. we dont have blatant cp sites everywhere

The music industry and movie industry have the exact same problem and they aren't giving their shit away.. they tackled the problem with a multipronged approach.

#1 first and foremost is you have to offer the same content faster and higher quality. ( i.e. itunes is faster easier and higher quality than the torrent sites )

#2 prosecuting the thieves.

#3 prosecuting the downloaders.

the music industry is making a nice penny settling lawsuits from college kids downloading mp3's

Imagine how well that would work for users caught downling " NAUGHTY GRANNY ASS FUCK", being sued in court for downloading "50 cent" doesnt look so bad..

everyone has mp3's so its not such a big deal getting sued for downloading them , but not everyone wants their sexual preferences aired before a public court.

people will think twice before downloading stolen porn dvd rips , if they though they might get hauled into court with the list of porn they downloaded.

Those sites aren't the issue.. it's the stolen content.. and my point is that if you take one site down, there will be another one pop right back in its place.

And therein lies the difference... The music and movie industries are organized.. They have organizations established to tackle the problems, and get things done..

Adult, one the other hand, with few exceptions, has a few people that see the issue as important and create threads on a message forum... read by a few, reacted upon by less than those few, and vanishes to page 4 in short order..

Until there is unity in this business, which is unlikely to happen, it will remain that way..

wow, cool link. should be enough for today for me

i think you missed the point.. why isn't cp blatant. they can open a new site when one goes down.. just like with stolen content..


The difference is the billers wouldn't allow it , the hosts wouldnt allow it and the affiliates wouldnt allow it.. thats why cp sites aren't all over the place like stolen content sites are..

sites with stolen content , the owners don't care the processors dont care the hosts dont care etc.. thats the difference.

This is true, but I was keeping with the purpose if the thread... stolen content.


The more important difference is... cp sites are illegal in a criminal sense hence the reasons you state above..
where stolen content is illegal in the civil sense..

If cp was a civil offense you can bet there would be a lot more of that than stolen content floating around..

ditto.



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