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pocketkangaroo 08-05-2007 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12872570)
Fact #6 The word trade center twin towers were designed to withstand multiple bowing 747s crashes and the one of the designers in the video has clearly stated this could have not brought them down.
Even if it could there would still be steel colums sticking straight up though the buildings afterwards!
Of course the designer would say that, he built it and may have been liable to lawsuits. I also don't know how you could possibly test out scenarios like this and prove that it would be structurally sound to handle it, this is an unheard of occurence. And did the planes technically knock the buildings down, or was it the fact the burning jet feul compromised the building and made it fall.

In any case, the majority of structual engineers have agreed that the plane could knock the building down. I'll stick with their opinions.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12872570)
Fact #7 There are several survivors of 911 that were in the bottom of the buildings that have clearly stated there was a huge explosion minute before the first plane hit.
And there are thousands of survivors who didn't hear a thing before the plane hit. Not to mention no calls to 911 after those pre-plane explosions. I'll take the opinion of thousands of people over several who probably got confused in the chaos.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12872570)
Fact #8 These explosions were explosives used throughout the colums withing the buildings used to bring down the towers in combination with the planes.
I don't know how you can claim fact on something with no proof. Sure it can be your theory, but a few people saying they heard explosions is really not proof of anything. Find the explosives, find the people who put them there. It's the busiest building in New York, someone had to have spotted someone putting exploses on to the exposed steel (not an easy task).

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12872570)
Fact #9 A day after 911 building 7 of the world trade center fell.Why?
It was never hit by any planes and the footage of the buildings collapse clearly looks like a professional building demolition a common collapse from the middle in order to make the building fall into itself.
You don't think that structural damage or the massive fires could have played a role in this? There was substantial damage to the building, and when that happens buildings fall. Shit, a fucking bridge just fell out of nothing the other day. And how come none of the thousands of firefighters and aid workers in the area didn't see any of this demolition take place?

The only fact in the video is that he liked about a lot of shit. If you lie about some stuff in the video, why would you believe any of it?

stickyfingerz 08-05-2007 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12876142)
Good trying to kiss ass off Mr.(BANNER FOR>>>>>?):1orglaugh
Can we all say Sticky?
Wow you are stupid..... He has a banner that was the same as mine WAS. Why? Cause we both partook in a sig donation for Aftershockmedia to get a special wheel chair for his wedding. I ran mine for about 40 days. He started later. You may as well stop right here, cause you are as brainless as they come. I dont give a fuck what people think of me, and I dont hide behind a fake nick.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12877554)
Wow you are stupid..... He has a banner that was the same as mine WAS. Why? Cause we both partook in a sig donation for Aftershockmedia to get a special wheel chair for his wedding. I ran mine for about 40 days. He started later. You may as well stop right here, cause you are as brainless as they come. I dont give a fuck what people think of me, and I dont hide behind a fake nick.
Obviously you dont care what people think of you.
But I care what I think of you.http://www.redtube.com/3767

pocketkangaroo 08-05-2007 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12877554)
Wow you are stupid..... He has a banner that was the same as mine WAS. Why? Cause we both partook in a sig donation for Aftershockmedia to get a special wheel chair for his wedding. I ran mine for about 40 days. He started later. You may as well stop right here, cause you are as brainless as they come. I dont give a fuck what people think of me, and I dont hide behind a fake nick.
Yo! Do you own that linkboy site in your sig?

And let me know if you need any beta testers for your new program.

escorpio 08-05-2007 07:19 AM
If George Bush could mastermind 9/11 why can't he shut Ripshit and Phoenix the fuck up? Seems like killing a couple guys that know The Truth would be a simple task.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 12877580)
If George Bush could mastermind 9/11 why can't he shut Ripshit and Phoenix the fuck up? Seems like killing a couple guys that know The Truth would be a simple task.
Look escorpio seems like you have death threat fantasies go play paintball then.

stickyfingerz 08-05-2007 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12877567)
Yo! Do you own that linkboy site in your sig?

And let me know if you need any beta testers for your new program.
New program? huh what? :winkwink: Yes I own Linksboy.com let me know if you want a featured spot. :thumbsup

escorpio 08-05-2007 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12877627)
Look escorpio seems like you have death threat fantasies go play paintball then.
You are a very brave man for telling The Truth about who's really behind 9/11. Doesn't it worry you that these people that killed thousands to further their cause may come after you for exposing them?

pocketkangaroo 08-05-2007 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12877628)
New program? huh what? :winkwink: Yes I own Linksboy.com let me know if you want a featured spot. :thumbsup
Interested in a few but when I enter in a featured listing, it takes me to the homepage and pops up a message about blocking spam submissions.

stickyfingerz 08-05-2007 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12878297)
Interested in a few but when I enter in a featured listing, it takes me to the homepage and pops up a message about blocking spam submissions.
Just email me the domains you want added + description for each if you are having problems. Do a recip to thatsfuckinhot.com instead of linksboy and Ill put you as featured.

ryan @ stickyboxcontent.com :winkwink:

Rochard 08-05-2007 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12877489)
Fact #10 On the morning of 911 Mr. Dick Cheney was in charge of all Norad order from the command bunker under the White House.
Out of all 22 possible war game exercises being conducted with the only six fighter pilots defending our airspace that morning,planes being flown into buildings was the scenario.
Out of everything I've read from both sides of the discussion, I've never heard this. And even if all of it is true, it has nothing to do with 9/11.

I'm guessing NORAD does such exercises on a regular basis, a few times a month.

Also, I believe Cheney was in the White House when the attacks started, and was moved into a bunker there.

Not sure if you know this, but the White House is the best connected building in the world. The President, The Vice President, The Joint Chiefs of Staff, and everyone in the military who work in the White House can be directly connected to any military in the unit world. All they need to do is pick up the phone and ask. Air Force One also works in a similar fashion. A more likely explaination is that Cheney was in the White House when the attacks happened, moved to a bunker, and was instantly in command of NORAD and every other military unit involved. This was while the President was trying to break free of school children.

Because our nation was under attack, the President was hidden. I believe (don't quote me here) but he was moved into Air Force one, and then quickly set down at an US Air Force base in Florida, where he hunkered down in a bunker. From there both himself and the VP took command of the situation.

Rochard 08-05-2007 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12877538)
Of course the designer would say that, he built it and may have been liable to lawsuits. I also don't know how you could possibly test out scenarios like this and prove that it would be structurally sound to handle it, this is an unheard of occurence. And did the planes technically knock the buildings down, or was it the fact the burning jet feul compromised the building and made it fall.

In any case, the majority of structual engineers have agreed that the plane could knock the building down. I'll stick with their opinions.


And there are thousands of survivors who didn't hear a thing before the plane hit. Not to mention no calls to 911 after those pre-plane explosions. I'll take the opinion of thousands of people over several who probably got confused in the chaos.


I don't know how you can claim fact on something with no proof. Sure it can be your theory, but a few people saying they heard explosions is really not proof of anything. Find the explosives, find the people who put them there. It's the busiest building in New York, someone had to have spotted someone putting exploses on to the exposed steel (not an easy task).



You don't think that structural damage or the massive fires could have played a role in this? There was substantial damage to the building, and when that happens buildings fall. Shit, a fucking bridge just fell out of nothing the other day. And how come none of the thousands of firefighters and aid workers in the area didn't see any of this demolition take place?

The only fact in the video is that he liked about a lot of shit. If you lie about some stuff in the video, why would you believe any of it?
Exactly what he said.

If explosions before the plane crashed is what took the building down, why didn't the building come down before the planes hit? When did these explosions take place? Before the planes hit or as they buildings were coming down, because I've heard both stories.

The explosions "before" the planes hit can be quickly explained away by the time line. I believe these explosions took place in the basement. The truth about them is they really took place the moment the planes hit, which sent a number of elevators to came crashing down to the lobby in a huge fireball. It's just a simple matter of them being off by sixty seconds or so.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12878687)
Exactly what he said.

If explosions before the plane crashed is what took the building down, why didn't the building come down before the planes hit?
The explosions were many in form thoughout the towers main frame all the way up.The planes were a hugr public divertion.
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12878687)
When did these explosions take place? Before the planes hit or as they buildings were coming down, because I've heard both stories.
As far as I know right before the planes hit,it was a demolition that was timed perfectly with the planes hitting the towers!



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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12878687)
The explosions "before" the planes hit can be quickly explained away by the time line. I believe these explosions took place in the basement. The truth about them is they really took place the moment the planes hit, which sent a number of elevators to came crashing down to the lobby in a huge fireball. It's just a simple matter of them being off by sixty seconds or so.
Yes it must have been this way.


Fact #11 The United states has never before been attacked within its borders by an outside force.
The government would like you to believe this to be true.

Rochard 08-05-2007 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12878840)
The explosions were many in form thoughout the towers main frame all the way up.The planes were a hugr public divertion.As far as I know right before the planes hit,it was a demolition that was timed perfectly with the planes hitting the towers!
Then why didn't the towers come down when both the planes hit the towers and the explosives went off? Why did they come down three hours later?

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12878840)

Fact #11 The United states has never before been attacked within its borders by an outside force.
The government would like you to believe this to be true.
Of course this isn't true. Japan attacked and occupied a number of islands off of Alaska, and subs from Japan attemped to launch bombs under large balloons into the coast of Orgeon.

Of course this doesn't include Peal Harbor. (Did you know that when Pearl Harbor was attacked it was a little known US terrority. Hawaii didn't become a US state until 1959.)

Ripshit 08-05-2007 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12878875)
Then why didn't the towers come down when both the planes hit the towers and the explosives went off? Why did they come down three hours later?
Whatch this video it may take you back to the week of.Remember how much craziness there was,and try to peice it together(the explosions).https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoX...elated&search=

TheDoc 08-05-2007 11:15 AM
Of course it was an inside job, if it had been terrorists alone this would be cut and dry. Like ALL others. Only our gov could have fucked up and did such a sloppy job.

The facts, from firemen, police, building7, the workers in the building days before, the recorded extra explosions, the fact the terrorists are still alive, and a mixture of other major bone ups all point to a sloppy inside job pulled off by a group of amateurs with bad focus and planning. Yup, that sounds exactly like the Bush Administration.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 11:24 AM
check out the old lady at the very end of this video she rocks:thumbsup
"I tell ya what any person that believes this was something that wasnt set up by our own government is an idiot"!:1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoX...elated&search=

Minte 08-05-2007 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12879032)
check out the old lady at the very end of this video she rocks:thumbsup
"I tell ya what any person that believes this was something that wasnt set up by our own government is an idiot"!:1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoX...elated&search=

And in 18 months President Bush will leave office, they will build a presidential library. He will have full security and all the benefits of every Ex-president.
Twenty+ years from now history will judge his presidency. Odds are it won't be harsh. If you were around during Nixon's administration you'll understand.

And in that 20 year period people will remember that a despot Iraqi dictator started the whole event by invading his neighbor with his sights set on Saudi Arabia and control of all the oil in the middle east. History will also remember who rid the world of that dictator.

So who is the idiot?

Dagwolf 08-05-2007 11:59 AM
I haven't listened to all the evidence, but I'm leaning away from the "Bush is an evil genius" theory and more toward the "Bush is an evil retard" hypothesis.

pocketkangaroo 08-05-2007 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12878840)
Fact #11 The United states has never before been attacked within its borders by an outside force.
The government would like you to believe this to be true.
Yes it has, and I'm not talking 9/11.

Phoenix 08-05-2007 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12878964)
Of course it was an inside job, if it had been terrorists alone this would be cut and dry. Like ALL others. Only our gov could have fucked up and did such a sloppy job.

The facts, from firemen, police, building7, the workers in the building days before, the recorded extra explosions, the fact the terrorists are still alive, and a mixture of other major bone ups all point to a sloppy inside job pulled off by a group of amateurs with bad focus and planning. Yup, that sounds exactly like the Bush Administration.
xxxactumondo

Rochard 08-05-2007 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12878964)
Of course it was an inside job, if it had been terrorists alone this would be cut and dry. Like ALL others. Only our gov could have fucked up and did such a sloppy job.

The facts, from firemen, police, building7, the workers in the building days before, the recorded extra explosions, the fact the terrorists are still alive, and a mixture of other major bone ups all point to a sloppy inside job pulled off by a group of amateurs with bad focus and planning. Yup, that sounds exactly like the Bush Administration.
What workers in the building the days before 9/11? How many "workers" do you think the WTC had? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? At any time of the night or day there are hundreds of "workes" fixing things, cleaning windows, and what not. Why didn't anyone see anything?

The terrorists are still alive? Really? Do some research on this and you'll discover all of these stories were quietly retracted a few months later.

Rochard 08-05-2007 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 12879214)
And in 18 months President Bush will leave office, they will build a presidential library. He will have full security and all the benefits of every Ex-president.
Twenty+ years from now history will judge his presidency. Odds are it won't be harsh. If you were around during Nixon's administration you'll understand.

And in that 20 year period people will remember that a despot Iraqi dictator started the whole event by invading his neighbor with his sights set on Saudi Arabia and control of all the oil in the middle east. History will also remember who rid the world of that dictator.

So who is the idiot?
It's very unfair to judge a sitting President, and still unfair to judge him after he left office. I'm not a supporter of Bush; I can't wait to see him removed out of office. Thank God for term limits.

There has been a number of times when a US President has left office with low popularity, only thirty years later to be hailed as a hero. Time changes our thoughts. Wasn't Truman considered a horrible president at the time but is now considered one of the best Presidents of all time? And wasn't JFK hailed as a "great leader" in our day, but now history has shown us exactly how reckless he was?

Everyone seems to have forgotten the original reason we into Iraq. Iraq invaded another country and raped it and then set fire to it's oil wells as they got their asses kicked back into Iraq.

I really wonder how history will judge both Bushes thirty years from now.

Rochard 08-05-2007 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dagwolf (Post 12879291)
I haven't listened to all the evidence, but I'm leaning away from the "Bush is an evil genius" theory and more toward the "Bush is an evil retard" hypothesis.
This sounds about dead on!

bronco67 08-05-2007 01:08 PM
You have no option for people who think the conspiracy theorists are fucking assholes.

Judging by the poll results, there's a lot of you on this board.

bronco67 08-05-2007 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12876398)

There seems to be a lot of discussion about the plane cash in PA and lack of physical plane parts. We've all seen plane crashes with lots of plane parts and the like laying around. Well, most plane crashes have someone physically controling the plane and trying their damnest to save the plane. The plane in PA went straight down into the ground from an original height of tens of thousands of feet. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that a plane that nose dives from thirty thousand feet is going to destroy itself. (Don't quote me on the height of the plane.)
My father in law is a doctor, and has been to many weird seminars when away at conventions. We were once on the subject of plane crashes, and he talked about a speech on plane crashes and survivability depending on speed and angle of crash, etc. He was saying that in the worst case, a plane and its passengers can be completely obliterated, where there is almost nothing left.

This doesn't prove or disprove anything, but the nutjobs all say that the PA plane crash site has to be a certain way, and it doesn't. They just twist shit around to fit their fruitcake ideas.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 12879214)
And in 18 months President Bush will leave office
So your saying what here that Bush will be remember as a hero?
It seems tho me that Saddam hussein had nothing to do with 911 but somehow he was blamed for it by anyone walking down the street here in the U.S.(alot of people)actually think he had something to do with 911.

If your not speaking of him but rather Mr.Bin Laden then great but he has not been confirmed dead nor even seen since 911(eccept for various tapes that pop up on the news from time to time.

Fact #12 In the next 18 months a democrat will take office all will be forgotten troops pulled out of the now liberated middle east (so called)and maybe the president will even play the sax and have sex in hotels.

Fact #13 Gulf War 1 was a waste of money and lives and did nothing!
Saddam Husseins execution could have happened 17 years ago as easy as it did a few months back.

Fact #14 Prior to 911 the United States had already bombed quite a few major countries excluding portions of the middle east and........






















its own!

Minte 08-05-2007 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880141)
So your saying what here that Bush will be remember as a hero?
It seems tho me that Saddam hussein had nothing to do with 911 but somehow he was blamed for it by anyone walking down the street here in the U.S.(alot of people)actually think he had something to do with 911.

If your not speaking of him but rather Mr.Bin Laden then great but he has not been confirmed dead nor even seen since 911(eccept for various tapes that pop up on the news from time to time.

Fact #12 In the next 18 months a democrat will take office all will be forgotten troops pulled out of the now liberated middle east (so called)and maybe the president will even play the sax and have sex in hotels.

Fact #13 Gulf War 1 was a waste of money and lives and did nothing!
Saddam Husseins execution could have happened 17 years ago as easy as it did a few months back.

Fact #14 Prior to 911 the United States had already bombed quite a few major countries excluding portions of the middle east and........


its own!
I'm saying reread my post and then Rockhard's post. Then study some history,the answer will become obvious to you.

And also,pay attention to my current signature.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12879614)
What workers in the building the days before 9/11? How many "workers" do you think the WTC had? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? At any time of the night or day there are hundreds of "workes" fixing things, cleaning windows, and what not. Why didn't anyone see anything?
you have obviously never heard od an inside job!
I dare anyone out here to doubt the term INSIDE JOB.
Can you for real tell me the term never can be used?
Is it the same as CONSPIRACY?
Of course not!
The difference in inside job and conspiracy is that an inside job exists and a conspiracy is just hearsay and cannot be proven.

In answering your question I would have to guess yes if it was a conspiracy alot of janitors who worked there would be popping up with stories of men climbing elevator shafts at 3A.M. in jump suits and ropes with bags.
But we have heard nothing of this so I tend to believe it was an inside job and those that saw anything if any were paid off quit nice.

Hows about a legal citezenship for you and your illegal family, and $100,000 sound to you?

You have to understand that most of the workers in these buildings back then were working illegaly on Visas and something like this could have been arranged.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 12880351)
I'm saying reread my post and then Rockhard's post. Then study some history,the answer will become obvious to you.

And also,pay attention to my current signature.
Oh believe me I understand what your saying but do you understand what Im saying here?

Fact # 15 The president of the United States since JFK has been nothing more than a lousy frontman of a sucky band that cant sing!

Democrat or Republican.................

TheDoc 08-05-2007 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12879614)
What workers in the building the days before 9/11? How many "workers" do you think the WTC had? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? At any time of the night or day there are hundreds of "workes" fixing things, cleaning windows, and what not. Why didn't anyone see anything?

The terrorists are still alive? Really? Do some research on this and you'll discover all of these stories were quietly retracted a few months later.
How about you prove me wrong, how a debate works. I saw the video of the terrorists guys in Egypt, they do all look the same to me but that is enough proof for me.

And, why do you think our Gov wouldn't do this? They did plan on attacking its own people during the Cuba Crisis, that's in a declassified document. If they would do it then, why not now?

Do you really think 3,000 lives for a few trillion dollars in oil is a big deal to these people? Throughout time the leaders of countries have done far worse for much less.


Oh look at that, special sig spot..

Ripshit 08-05-2007 02:53 PM
Almost 72 hours in and still over 70% of GFYs believe it was an inside job!
Come on people vote up:thumbsup

Rochard 08-05-2007 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880141)
So your saying what here that Bush will be remember as a hero?
It seems tho me that Saddam hussein had nothing to do with 911 but somehow he was blamed for it by anyone walking down the street here in the U.S.(alot of people)actually think he had something to do with 911.
Yes, in fact, I am not afraid of going on record of saying that Bush might be hailed as a hero in thirty years. If not a hero, perhaps a "good President". (Keep in mind I believe he's a horrible President.)

I believe that the world's oil resources are drying up, and in twenty - thirty years from now we'll be screwed. There isn't an exit plan in Iraq because we have no intention of leaving - We want (and perhaps need) a full time presence in the Middle East.

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Gulf War I was because of Kuwait; Gulf War II was because Saddam believe that he could tell the world he beat the Americans and defied all of the condiations of the surrender.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880141)
Fact #12 In the next 18 months a democrat will take office all will be forgotten troops pulled out of the now liberated middle east (so called)and maybe the president will even play the sax and have sex in hotels.
There is a good chance this will happen. And will make all of efforts there a waste and leave us with no foot hold in the Middle East. I mean, I'm fine with this myself - I make plenty of money and rarely leave the house, so if the price of gas triples in the next year it's not going to really affect me at all.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880141)
Fact #13 Gulf War 1 was a waste of money and lives and did nothing!
Saddam Husseins execution could have happened 17 years ago as easy as it did a few months back.
Gulf War I wasn't a waste and accomplished it's objections - which were getting Iraq out of Kuwait and securing our oil interests.

We could have easily walked straight into Bagdad, but our intention wasn't to occupy Iraq. Perhaps we should have done that first time around.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880141)
Fact #14 Prior to 911 the United States had already bombed quite a few major countries excluding portions of the middle east and........
You need to be a bit more specific here. Are you implying that the US dropped bombs on it's own population? Please do tell; This should be interesting.

Rochard 08-05-2007 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12880675)
How about you prove me wrong, how a debate works. I saw the video of the terrorists guys in Egypt, they do all look the same to me but that is enough proof for me.

And, why do you think our Gov wouldn't do this? They did plan on attacking its own people during the Cuba Crisis, that's in a declassified document. If they would do it then, why not now?

Do you really think 3,000 lives for a few trillion dollars in oil is a big deal to these people? Throughout time the leaders of countries have done far worse for much less.


Oh look at that, special sig spot..
It wasnt planned, but rather discussed as an option. I'm guessing the reason why is because.... if one thing went wrong, if one witness came forward... it would have sunk the JFK administration.

And this is why I believe our Govenment had nothing to do with this. If one witness came foward.... it would change world history drastically.

Rochard 08-05-2007 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880443)
you have obviously never heard od an inside job!
I dare anyone out here to doubt the term INSIDE JOB.
Can you for real tell me the term never can be used?
Is it the same as CONSPIRACY?
Of course not!
The difference in inside job and conspiracy is that an inside job exists and a conspiracy is just hearsay and cannot be proven.

In answering your question I would have to guess yes if it was a conspiracy alot of janitors who worked there would be popping up with stories of men climbing elevator shafts at 3A.M. in jump suits and ropes with bags.
But we have heard nothing of this so I tend to believe it was an inside job and those that saw anything if any were paid off quit nice.

Hows about a legal citezenship for you and your illegal family, and $100,000 sound to you?

You have to understand that most of the workers in these buildings back then were working illegaly on Visas and something like this could have been arranged.
So you think that people were "paid off" with the promise of citizenship and $100k. But everyone who investigated 9/11 failed to notice that Jose survived 9/11, suddenly bought a house on his janitor's pay, and his entire familiy suddenly got citizenship? Trust me, if such a person came foward today he would be a multi millionaire for giving a hand ful of interviews and a national hero instead of having to live with all of this guilt.

The amount of pepole involved in this would have been staggering. Just to give you an idea of this....
- Someone to rig up the WTC with explosives.
- Someone to fly the plane or remote control fly the plane.
- Someone to plant the cars left behind at the airport.
- Some to create entire fake histories of non existant people
- Someone to rig the cameras at the airports.

And this is just for the WTC in NY. What about Fight 93 in PA?
- Someone had to have fired a missile.
- Someone had to have noticed a missile missing. How many people are on a flight crew that would have noticed a missile missing?
- Some to edit all of the radar tapes and voice recordings.

Then there is the Pentagon....
- Someone had to have fired a large missile to launch it into the Pentagon.
- Someone had to have fueled that missile.
- And dozens must have seen it take off.
- And dozens more must have noticed their silo was empty.

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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12880443)
The difference in inside job and conspiracy is that an inside job exists and a conspiracy is just hearsay and cannot be proven.
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If it was an inside job then hundreds of people must have been involved - and surely one of them would have come foward.

And it if was a conspiracy.... Then all of this is pointless.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12881810)
So you think that people were "paid off" with the promise of citizenship and $100k..
No Im saying it could be one possibility thats it.If you witnessed a murder by lets say the mafia and they offered to set you up with that kind of money or die what would you do?
Would you betray them after?
And if you did how long do you think youd stay alive?

Just some questions here.

Rochard 08-05-2007 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12881833)
No Im saying it could be one possibility thats it.If you witnessed a murder by lets say the mafia and they offered to set you up with that kind of money or die what would you do?
Would you betray them after?
And if you did how long do you think youd stay alive?

Just some questions here.
This is a bit different from the Mafia and a murder.

Simple phone call to CNN and you would be set for life. Once they verified a few things, they would lock you up and have cameras on you 24/7 in the event someone was to make an attempt on your life.

Face it, you've got nothing. Every question you have Mr Fake Nick is quickly and easiliy shot done; Most of them I don't even have to research. This has been discussed and discussed time and time again; Books have been written about it.

If you told me that the Mossad sent in twenty terrorists and did this I might believe you. But when your tellng me that missiles were launched and explosions took down the WTC..... That's just way too far out there man.

Ripshit 08-05-2007 05:08 PM
Fact # 16 George Bushes grandfarther owned and operated a major oil refinery back in the 1940s.That very same oil refinery fued many of the Nazis vehichles of mass destruction(term used in todays war on terror for those of you that cant comprehend it)way back in WW2.

Take another look at how long this has been going on and why and how big it actually is.

Minte 08-05-2007 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 12881904)
Fact # 16 George Bushes grandfarther owned and operated a major oil refinery back in the 1940s.That very same oil refinery fued many of the Nazis vehichles of mass destruction(term used in todays war on terror for those of you that cant comprehend it)way back in WW2.

Take another look at how long this has been going on and why and how big it actually is.

Ok, this has gotten silly now.
Have a good evening.

AtlantisCash 08-05-2007 05:22 PM
no doudt it was the beginning of the game/big lie (Muslims are terrorists), cause that would be easy way to stealing Muslim People's resources.

Crusades and Zionists playing this bloody game together, but they don't know there is GOD sees everything and sure innocents will have fairness some days.


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