Vista is nothing but a pain in the ass

I've been putting off buying a comp for the past few months because i wanted to wait and see if Vista was gonna improve any. By the looks of it, i'd be aswell just buying a new comp but with XP on it again...

Actually you can always buy XP as a stand-alone distributive and install it yourself. What's a prob with that?

Of all the OS's.. I still prefer win2k

Xp is what? 5 years old and Win2K older. At somepoint you need to move forward when it comes to MS OS. Very typical for missing drivers or for the new OS to not suuport all legacy items. Then there will soon be programs that will only work on Vista. Suspect MS will see to that to move their new software forward.

So sooner or latter it is in your own interest to move forward. Want to send a fax, buy a fucking fax machine. Gotta attach to your PC, buy a new fax machine. Same applies to all hardware components. It is the way it is. Call it the cost of doing biz. Fuck, it was time for some new hardware anyway.

So today I'll order a new Dell with Vista. If there are some must have items that don't work, I too might have to drop back to XP till new components are in place.

OS/10 has caught my eye as you can run Vista within OS/10. Still no operating suytem is 100% compatible with every everthing.

Do you remember your bitching bout XP. Some say Vista is worse. Maybe that's cause memory is fading.

Your surfes will be using Vista, so you need to have a feel for it's operation...

In the end this is all good news for Apple.

hum curious what the hell you guys are doing on your cpu. Going on 2 months with vista here nad no problems so far....

The more you do, the more chances of issues. If you are using the computer out of the box, boought MS Office 2007 and a fresh copy of Adobe/Macromideia CMS suite, you're prolly fine. Many of us have a large handfull of special application programs to improve productivity (some of them several years old), there is some risk there.

SP/1 is due soon. Guess that means it will be out by 2009 - LOL

Of course most webmasters have more than one PC, so there is a fall back position to get something done, just that can be a pain in the ass and take time. There is a reason for that belkin switch on my desk...

editing and rendering lots and lots of video

Some won't have much of a choice but to wait for new software or compatibility through upgrades to the new OS or application software.

Don't know about the Jace's rendering software compatibility or it's performance on Vista personally. If it isn't right there my decision to fall back to XP would be quick. That or a *inix version.

Obviously mission critical software. Jace prolly also has the ability to buy his way out of any jams with new hardware/software.

I've got a new quad-core 2.4 gighrz machine with 3 gigs of ram, even with everything in Vista changed to make it "look" like windows 2000, it's still WAY slower than even my old P3 with 128 Megs of ram running win2k. :1orglaugh

Plus the video editing software I use doesn't work on Vista, and by the sounds of it, the company will only be making OS X versions in the future so it never will run on Windows again... other than old versions.

You have no idea what RAM us used for do you?
What use is 4gb of ram if you never use it? Ram is there to be used, if any of its not being used for something, then it is wasted, you might was well use it to stir your coffee in the morning.
Vista is FAR better at alloting memory use then XP.

I've been runing Vista 64 for over a month without restarting, rendering videos, editing 10's of thousands of pictures, etc etc.
And you saying it took more then 10 minutes to shut down made me want to try it. Took only about 10 seconds.


I still hold the opinion that most vista haters havent even used it, or if they have are just going along with the vista hate because they dont know any better.

PS, open photoshop in XP, about 15-20 seconds, Vista, 3 or 4 seconds.

Maybe say hello to OS X. I made the switch to mac instead of vista and I haven't looked back. Once you're set up with all the apps you need you're way more productive. I'm someone who used to hate apple fan boys, but i've became one.

Vista is good to me.
was skeptical at the begging before actually using it. was annoyed by all confirms it asks before doing anything, almost went back to XP, gave a day or two to figure the OS out, shut those confirms, now it doesn't bug me at all, runs like a charm.
in XP i like classic mode, so I check "adjust for best performance" in computer's advanced prefs, it kills all fancy XP stuff, 3d like cheap looking plastic toolbars which I can't stand. I've tried doing same on wide-screen laptop with vista on it, not that I don't like aero look, I just prefer classic look, well it didn't do too well, fonts weren't rendering quiet well i had to go with option "let the windows decide....". There are few options left that I still have to check to be able use classic mode and fonts showing good though, haven't had time to do it yet. Other than that I'm happy camper with Vista.
I also remember being quiet comfortable using XP when its just came out into beta, had no real issues with that although SP1 made things smoother back then. I know I haven't had been hit with problems like many of you have been as I don't use lot of specialty/proprietary software (even at this day and age some specialty software made run on dos) nor I play games.

FYI: RAM is intended to be used by APPLICATIONS but not by OS. :2 cents: