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Now we see the truth, you are busting my ass for pointing out your stupid fucking mistake.

I didn't make a mistake, you posted some dumb shit and I pointed out what you posted was infact allowed by the sponsor.

Next time post some accurate information.

OMFG, YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T EVEN GO TO THE FUCKING SITE??????

HAHAHAHhahahahHAHAHAHAHA

OMFG

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Next time read the whole fucking thread you fucking useless piece of shit. :2 cents:

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this is TOO fun though

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Then after that I'm going to buy a $100 camera and a $20 painters light at home depot and go after Paul's business.

Knock yourself out with that and maybe in 10 minutes you'll get a fucking clue that I'm already selling the clone.

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Hey guys. Do me a favor and bump this in a little to see if Bang Bros wants to do something about it.

It's 4:48am over here on the east coast and I'm exhausted. Bed time.

Peace out Jace.

sortie you're a fucking moron. bwhwahaaaaa lollllllllllllllll

paul i respect some of what you have to say but you're in the wrong thread buddy.

See you dumb fucks in the next thread.

I'm not bumping this stupid shit anymore. :1orglaugh

don't worry, I will bump it for years to come

this is almost right up there with "nice day to take out the ferrari"

You don't answer me. Are you too retarded?

Are you pissed he's stealing content, something I SUSPECT you have no proof of. Or pissed he's getting more sign ups than you?

Is he making more money than you and taking money away from you or is he losing money?

The stealing content is a side issue that none of you give a shit about.

I may be a dinosaur but like them I will be around a long time. Longer than you bright sparks and that's for sure.

Sorry but that's the level of investment you need to be an affiliate. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Come on guys do you have proof he's stealing content? Then inform the sponsor to cut him off. Or are you pissed he's taking your traffic.

How do you spell hipocrytes? :1orglaugh

did you graduate high school?

look paul, I am not sure where you think you know me from or how you think you know my business, but being an affiliate is not something I work real hard at. my affiliate sales account for maybe 10% of my income. I am a consultant first and foremost and I work with some of the largest program in the porn industry

the guy is blatantly giving away whole bangbros movies, you can't deny that

you definitely are not making much sense though, you are basically fighting and defending affiliates that give away full movies, which is in direct violation of the TOS of that program

I could care less personally, and I am sure the thread starter doesn't care as much as you are making it seem like he does

but you defending the violation of a programs TOS is just nuts to me and that is what is making me treat you like the idiot you are being

the funny part is, the guys site suddenly doesn't have that sidebar to it anymore, so he obviously knew he was in the wrong and saw the referrers from gfy and deleted it....but I am sure you will still defend his use of that full movie, even though he knew it was wrong and even thought it was against the TOS of the program

take a step back man, stop acting like a child and work with your peers instead of fighting just for the sake of fighting

No I did not. I left school at 14 to go work. The last year I spent playing truant.

But I'm bright enough to see that you guys truly do not give a shit about him or anyone else stealing content. You care that he's stealing sign ups and traffic. That he has a better business plan than you do.

Is he stealing and sending traffic to a sponsor? Then inform the sponsor and see what happens.

And I'm bright enough to realise the business is changing and this dinosaur will adapt and some of you will become extinct.

And if with your high school education Sublimed you make as much money as I have over the 40+ years you work you will be a happy man.

So Bangbros allows their affiliates to promote 4 other sponsors along with theirs using FULL MEMBERS CONTENT? They didn't make their money by being stupid. I assure you that.

I started this thread because I do care. I make less money when other people steal. Bangbros make more money when people steal. You seem to be the only exception.

Well as long as your content remains undesirable to thieves and people who want to get off for free you will be around for a long time. [/quote]

Thats what I was attempting to do until you came in here trolling looking for sig views.

Why not email them you ask?

Why email them when I can post it on GFY and be entertained by morons like you?

just FYI man, according to whois data

Paul's Paysite:
Created: 2002-09-20

Paul's Content Store:
Created: 2001-03-30

Jace's first paysite (still open and making sales):
Created: 2000-09-27

ain't that the truth

that meant to say "Bangbros makes less money"

My first website

Created: 2000-11-08
Expires: 2011-**-**

Not adult but still...

And I'm barely 26.

Young, you have been away for a while. Welcome to the new and improved Paul Markham.

I'm a happy man now just reading your posts.. very entertaining. How would you know how much money I have made in my life?

oh hell, wish I had still had my first site up, that would rock...that was like 12 years ago, i think I used geocities too haha

apparently he knows all, he must have one of dem private invetigaders that spends all day researching all the gfy posters, or "trolls" as he calls them....basically anyone that doesn't agree with him, which I guess is just about everybody by now

FYI I was shooting porn for profit before most of you were out of diapers and some were born. My world is a bit bigger than the Internet. But if all you've done is here then I suppose it must mean a lot to you. :1orglaugh

you are right

shit, in that case I need to stop working in porn

anyone want some awesome teen porn?

teen porn movies

teen model sweety

paul markham teens

teen susanne and jack

Teen Regina

courtney and queenie

adapt!!!!

when you assume you make an ass out of just you

So you don't know if it's stolen, you just assumed. You have not informed Bang Bros or the other sponsors have you?

But you hit the nail on the head, you make less money and Bang Bros make more. And you think Bang Bros should care about you instead of themselves. If you think the sponsors care about you, email them and get them to ban the affiliate. You might get a result you might not.

And as for my content not being any good, one guy says it's everywhere and the next says it's no good. Make up you minds.

This business is changing and trolls like you who do not or cannot change with it, will become extinct.

Thanks for not listening to me and thinking. You don't like people taking your traffic and instead of doing something about it sit a bitch on GFY. And I should respect you???? :1orglaugh

After checking the Topic Starter and the Thread Title I'll completely disregard this statement as you being senile.

I don't need your respect. :winkwink:

Apparently.

A content producer/provider/sponsor suggesting that I adapt my business plan to one that includes stealing is just beyond surprising.

it really amazes me the direction this thread took

I am looking it over now and in no place can you find me bitching about free porn or giving anything away until paul mentioned it first...interesting

this place never amazes me, I got baited into an argument DAMN!

Enough there for my own paysite.

For 7 years we have sent the surfer to sites that frankly disappointed him. Not every site but most. Some sites were even ripping him off.

We moved over to exclusive content because the affiliates needed it, this reduced the amount of content in the site the surfer joined.

We gave or demanded more and more free content, hosting, RSS, FHGs, and every other tool we could dream up.

And the result was?

Well you know the result, so welcome to the world WE built. I personally see very big changes to the world of Internet porn. The cost of buying, hosting and delivering is minuscule and the real cost is the traffic. Which leaves us totally open to guys who are not paying for traffic. Forget about stealing content, 100 videos = $1,000 and up. The thieves are thieves because it's their mentality. Not a business decision.

The business is changing whether you like it or not. The rich guys will look after themselves, few kings really care about the people. They just tell you they love you.

Thanks for the links Jace, can you put some more up?

I have a kick ass site, the Torrents are free advertising for it. When will you understand this works for sponsors.

You and me both.

He didn't make much of an argument though.

ROFL, wow, you're a fuckin genious

dude, the internet porn industry HAS been changing already, in more ways than offering $5 sites

paul is all you do take phrases and knowledge from everyone else and recycle it into your own little thoughts?

everything you just said is things that almost everyone in the industry has been saying for year

and god damn, if one more person that doesn't know me or what I do tells me to "evolve" i am going to jump through the monitor and piss in their eyes

it really is amazing...once again, let's break this down

you played nice guy and tried to inform a sponsor about something that was breaking their TOS...and people that call themselves honest webmasters came in and ridiculed you and basically started a fight with you about something you didn't even mention in the first place?

did I get it right?
LOL

this place sucks more and more, the nicer you try and be and the more you help people, the more negative those around you are about it

No. They are not complaining about too much free content specifically. They are complaining about .. FULL LENGTH (possibly stolen) MOVIES that are not available promo tools in the affiliate area.

They don't buy it dummy. The trend is to steal it, not to purchase it. People like you just encourage it. You tell them how brilliant they are. You tell them how impressed you are that they are thinking outside the box. There's nothing clever about stealing a video and posting it online.

No, it's not a complaint dummy. Quit assuming you know what people are thinking. You're having a conversation with yourself, in your own mind.

If .. IF .. the full videos convert to signups better than small clips, then more sponsors will give away more video content to their affiliates to use. No one's going to buy your crappy $5 videos. It's just not necessary. The market will determine which methods are justifiable. You can certainly bet it doesn't involve anyone coming to your store to buy content that they're used to just stealing and posting for free. They will choose the good stuff, not your $5 shit unless they want to be laughed at.

Do you give a shit that he's stealing content? I don't think you do either. You keep praising how smart these guys are, and talk like you wish you could drop to your knees and suck their cocks.

No, not scared. It's just being competitive.

You got it exactly right. I like to know where I get my traffic from and where I'm sending my surfers. I checked the site out and immediately noticed what he was doing with the videos...so I came on here to let Pipecrew or any other Bangbros rep know the deal.

The site's only content is 4-5 FULL length Bangbros videos. The rest of the links are external plugs. So basically all he is doing is moving traffic around pushing 5 sponsors (one of which is bangbros) on the strength of 5 or so Full Bangbros videos.

Theres not much "webmastering" going on there....nor is what he is doing innovative.

Is that what you call adapting Paul?

At least "sortie" knew when to give up :1orglaugh

Jesus you are dumb.

Whats really funny is there is an All Internal Flash Video sample and when ya click it, it plays but wont take you to "AllInternal.COM". It opens a new window and its a blank page no link, no refer, no tour nothing...

ROFL!