Evil Chris I'd have to agree with this.


unless you made that gallery yourself or got permission to talk about it you pretty much BETRAYED your affilaiate and that's not a good thing for an affilaiate program to do.



note - after re-reading the thread I realized that it was Escort-biz that posted the gallery and not you. Still I wouldn't be spreading your affilaiate traffic sourses without EXPLICIT permission, it will come back to haunt you. If that was an affilaiate that person has the right to be MIGHTY PISSED OFF with you right now. People don't want to promote your program only to have you tell everyone exactly what they did and where they got the signups from. VERY VERY UNPROFESONAL.

I also agree... You should edit your posts in respect for the webmaster who made that gallery. Webmasters are going to copy it. It might benifit you but it would piss me off if that was my gallery.

:1orglaugh


You mean that's not true???

It can't be true. Would you post a message on GFY if you had found a gold mine? If your answer is yes, click this link

http://catalog.dummies.com/product.asp?isbn=0764506889

I dont' know if evil chris is telling the truth or not, but I DO know 100+ sales to one hun listing IS possible and has been done MANY times before.

Well, if it's true, like I said, I wouldn't post it on GFY. I'd keep the money and shut the fuck up. I wouldn't want 100000000 galleries from that sponsor days later. But hey! It's only my personnal opinion. :glugglug

nothing wrong with posting it if you arn't betraying an affilaiate's trusted traffic sourses or gallery layout or other business tactics.

Remeber clickcash's "success showcase" that was about the same time it all started going down hill for them.

I'd have to agree. affiliates that make real coin usually don't want to let anything about their income or REAL sourses of traffic out. If it ever happens they LEAVE that program.

Well, he basically IS. If I were the guy kicking ass off Hun listings, I'd be on the phone cursing a blue streak. And replacing any other paid spots with another program.

BOB galleries on the Hun. Alex+Jason and Ken used to be the only guys pushing them on the Hun a while ago - Ken started talking about it, and BOOM! Every monkey on the web was dumping BOB galleries on the Hun (and spamming blatant copies off Hun postings to every TGP they could).

Ask Alex how that cut into his sign-ups. BOB was happy, no doubt, but the two groups that had the original success saw performance suffer as the program became used by more and more webmasters.

With this type of marketing, you need to strike while the iron is hot. Once 4-5 other guys start to push that same sponsor, results will plummet for the indiviual, although the program gets better overall results (1 guy sending 100 sign ups, or 40 guys sending 25 sign-ups - which do you think they prefer?)

So much bullshit.
Sure u can get quite some signups at thehun if you got something unique and if you know what your doing.
I signed up for the site and just to make sure it was bullshit. Send about 1,000 uniques to the site from one of the pre-made galleries. (all TGP traffic.... top listing on a small new tgp).
Result: 1:950 and it was a trial that didn't recur.
I know 1000 clicks isn't much but don't talk shit that people convert 1:80 with tgp traffic. ON AVERAGE
Spamming webmasters isn't the way.

I wrote that segment of their site called "effectively promoting clickcash" and Id have to say it was my worst mistake ever, though it produced a ton of downline signups.

I pleaded with them to get my links off the success showcase, but they just left them there, needless to say they don't get my traffic anymore,:2 cents:

there are ways to talk about successes without betraying an affilaiate.

i buy gallery spots at some large tgps and i would not push college fuck fest cause you would share my information with everyone

Yeah...ever since BOB started pushing their new webmaster refferals sales have taken a BIG dive. I'm surprised that the guy handling BOB's webmaster support now is pushing the webmaster refferals so much. I'm assuming he's one of their biggest resellers. I see his galleries all over the place. Personally, I don't reccomend any programs I'm kicking ass with, cuz I wanna continue to do so.

BTW...I figured I'd give CFF a shot. I started pushin' 'em hard about the begining of this week & I'm doin' no where close to those numbers. Course, I don't have a Hun listing either. I'm not doing bad by any means...but I thought I'd be doing much better than I am currently.

You copied my words. I also believe the same.

Bullshit!!

If I would make 200 sign ups from the hun I would buy out all the spots that he has and worldsex and everyother BIG tgp and make gallery after gallery. (As many as possible per day)

Show a screenshot!

Sorry Za Ha, they wouldn't let you buy every spot......think about that for a second.

Steve,

You are right about how our sales dropped for BOB and that is why we don't push BOB and haven't for close to 2 years. You know the other reasons but we won't go there...lol

The Hun and Worldsex limit the spots a single buyer may purchase. In the past, the Hun has even limited the number of galleries promoting one particular sponsor (BOB) that would appear in his daily listing. You might get 1/day on there, but that would just leave you wide open to Hun surfing webmasters. They notice that shit real quick, and soon enough there'll be 3-5/day on The Hun, alone.

I think Chris should just show a screen shot of this claim of 200 signups in one day and that will be the end of it. You can blank out the webmaster who's account it is.

DH

Hi,

The gallery listed on the hun, with the GFF link on it(the nurse one) is mine.

Last week I had a hun listing with a similiar site, and had around 10 monthly signups.

I spoke Evil Chris, and he told me CFF did GREAT on all traffic. I ask permission to change my code into the CFF one.

Now it's listed on the hun. Much traffic, NO signups so far. But this has nothing todo with CFF I think. I was just testing it if the conversion of something totally different then the actual gallery would work. Well it isn;t :-)

SO I will put it back to another triplexcash site :-)

Andre

I agree, SD. If I were a program operator, I would be doing my best to get webmasters to push my sites. Even if they can't sell water to a guy crawling thru the desert, there hits will feed the exit chain. But I think opening a thread on GFY and stating that an affiliate has has several 100+ join days on paid Hun listings qualifies as betrayal. Wouldn't you agree?

It would be an entirely different matter if the program operator purchased spots on the Hun, Worldsex, and even your high traffc site, generated these numbers, and then released the results.

Don't forget, you are a unique oddity as a gallery builder. Not only do you post good galleries (they are hardcore, they are series, they each have a unique erotic story, and they don't re-direct), but you also have managed to geberate an incredible amount of traffic to your main page. And from there, you trade - and trade BIG. When someone looks to be copying you, you find out about it fast. You have connections to put an end to anyone who were to try to do as you do (if that is what you wish). The avg gallery builder does not have that kind of stroke. They get copied, and they take the hit.

who the fuck REALLY cares? Unless I get a gallery listing at thehun every day chances are I won't be doing 200 signups with your program ...Whoever said it's unique and the only site out there of that niche is off their rocker...
Somebody did 200 signups? OoOooOOOo be proud of your program and move along,stunts like this make webmasters pull away,I wouldnt use it now... :2 cents:

Evil Chris is just that. Evil.

I think his little publicity stunt is brilliant.

He makes a claim and lets you monkies debate it for him.

Oh, you mean because you guys have built the best IR site on the Web today? One that has more content, better looking content, and is actually 100% legal content. That small reason? LOL

Why do you think that I don't get it

Well I made that gallery not for CFF. As you can see the layout has not anything todo with CFF.

But I pointed another gallery (also layout made for anothers site) to CFF and suddenly a few signups, but that was just luck :-)

So now I will make new layouts just made for CFF :)

Andre

Oooh...how many SU do ya think I can get w/ a Hun listing? :Graucho

Alex... well put man... :thumbsup

the most intelligent thing said in this thread.

I cant belive 200 sales in a day maybe over the 3 days of being listed if it was in the top 5. You just cant get that many clicks to the sponsor the math just dosent add up. I had alot of people tell me I was full of shit the last time I posted my Hun stats and that was only 9000 hits to the sponsor. You would have to be around at least 30,000 hits to do that well.
But no doubt you will get lots a new resellers pushing you traffic because of this post and that all that matters isnt it.

It's a great site idea. Even without this thread it's worth checking out.

If that gallery did 200 sales on the hun, then
we should all quit now..

I bet it did good, but not that good.

The site looks good though :thumbsup

LOL! :thumbsup

My:2 cents: :1orglaugh

made one gallery to test the site, im enjoying a 0:1030 conversion so far...seems a little strange because the site itself should be easy to sell...

LOL I figured he was bullshitting

Sorry Sleazy but you are OUT TO LUNCH on this one.
I didn't release any names of any webmasters, nor would I ever do so. If a webmaster wanted to come in here and say how well they are doing, that's their prerogative.

Everyone knows The Hun is a wealth of traffic for the lucky webmasters who get listed there for free, and certainly for the ones who pay for their listings. I didn't give ANY secrets or personal information away, so don't even think about calling me unprofessional in this or any forum. All you're doing is feebly attempting to influence a few people here who aren't able to think and deduce things on their own.

You won't ever have such an influence on me, or anyone else here at GFY with a head on their shoulders.

People tend to bitch too much when the guy is just telling information he got from his webmasters. Instead of bitching at what he's saying just think before you type. Perhaps its true perhaps not. I haven't been listed at the hun with what he's offering so I wouldn't have a place to judge. But please stop the bitching.

a few are running tests its a big fuckin joke 1:200

LOL :1orglaugh

no deals are made. That's why our bot disabled the link

I have had galleries listed on the hun... richards realm... worldsex... al4a.... all at the same time... they sent lots of traffic and a few signups... but considering the FACT that I know of at least 1-2 sites that make a total of 2-300 signups per day... and they aren't tgp sites... I would say that making 200 signups in a single day from 1 gallery listed at the hun is not only improbable... it's impossible for the average program... and you work for one of those Chris.... so thx for keeping us entertained.. but most of us recognize the same old bullshit eminating from your direction...

WTF, i need to read dates on threads more often ... i just went though the entire first page for what?

I wonder how many of these 2002 conversions are still holding grounds..

Great I just copied a gallery that is 5 years old.

yeah 5 years old but still a nice one

Your input is appreciated but it's 5 years to late :1orglaugh

Haha only in 2002 someone would make those kinds of sales.

*yawn.......*

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