Bix, GoFish, SinglesNet, AFF and others advertise on Torrent sites so who the fuck cares if fleshlight does

so damn true.

This is kinda funny.. It's like...

We found out one of your customers/clients is clearly a rapist. They are raping, and we have proof of it.

Your stance - We'll talk to this valued rapist of ours, and see if we can come to some kind of mutually beneficial relationship. Oh, and trust me, we'll handle it well. We value you anti-rapists who are also customers of ours, and we'll make sure we get our rape team/division under control.

Are you seeing this as clearly as we are? Yes. Just can't think of a good way to deal with it and still keep your rape team intact.

100% spot on!

sticky why do you have to be so stupid.

That is not a torrent site. That site has nothing to do with the adult industry, there is no adult content on it, etc.... you might as well posted a link to google.

So you will talk to this affiliate tomorrow to see what can be done, but will accept his traffic until then?

I am going to just e mail you a list of every torrent site out there and request you pull the links, I have saw your ads next to CP links, I have saw your ads next to exclusive content I shot, I have saw your ads next to animal sex.

I can keep going..

Can you explain exactly why I need to e mail you when torrent sites obviously steal and hurt out industry?

Guess what, you're going to alienate yourself from adult programs, and lose a huge traffic source in itself.

you are a tool.

Josh, please.

Go to any torrent site. type in "simpsons movie". If you can find the simpson's movie on the site, then you know that the site has illegal material on it. it should be up to the site to show that it is CLEARLY not distributing material without rights.

Waiting for each and every individual copyright holder to contact you, one file at a time is (pardon my english) a chickenshit way of saying "we will take any traffic we don't care".

Why not ask your torrent site partners to show that they have permission for, say, their top 20 files? If they could do that you might have a leg to stand on. But it is very doubtful that any of your "torrent partners" would be able to provide you the contractual rights they have for these files (and in the case of adult material, the 2257 documents and model releases - without those you have to treat every adult file as potential CP, and we know you don't want to be part of the CP world).

I cannot wait to see what sticky thinks of all the content from his paysites on a torrent site, and there is nothing he can do about it.

We already know his true colors and he's fucking worthless.

Not to mention 2 other things.

1 some of his 2257 lists off to content2die4 which is prostock, who is well know for being a huge content scammer. Wonder why they are working together?

2 some of his other sites 2257 list off to somewhere in Tennessee, yet he admitted he purchased content and did not have 2257 for it, so wonder how that's working out for him...

I think people are more pissed because you give a half ass bullshit explanation. Just say the truth. Just say you need that traffic to make money. Just say you don't really give a shit and that you aren't responsible for the content next to your ads. Pretending like you give a shit about this industry or stolen content is laughable as you guys have been on virtually every torrent site at one time or another.

nothing will happen.


there is no need to talk to the affiliate on the phone.

Fact: there is stolen content being served with ads to fleshlight which produce revenue from the stolen content.

Fact: thats grounds for termination under their program, (if not it should be immediately).

the absolute right thing to do is this.

Fact: torrent sites make money from stolen content. 100% of the content is stolen.

Fact: people who know they are making money from a torrent site are in fact making money at the expense of someone who is losing money on the very content they paid to produce.

there's no cute way to put it. you accept revenue from torrent sites, you ARE fucking the very people you pretend to be friends with in public and at shows.

the only way to justify it is to snuff the torrent sites because they cant make money through adult programs. we all know that the BRO love don't go that deep.

Fact: adding "If you are a torrent/leeching/download site that profits from content that is not yours, you will be terminated immediately, no questions asked" is the only line you need to go to the TOS and add.

that would solve it all.

i'm so bloody sick of this cesspool of lies and fakeness.

Again Will goes off half cocked without even fucking knowing what he is talking about. It is 100% a torrent site, and THERE IS adult content on it, just not in the public view from the main site. Do you even know who azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ is? http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=azu...p=mss&ei=UTF-8

Not surprising you dont realize Torrents are used for good not just evil.

what??? contacted them and talking to them on the phone tomorrow. What is there to talk about? you said:

you didn't say " I will need to wait till tomorrow to talk to the affiliate about this". You said the ad would be removed, now back up what you say you are going to do or people will really think you are full of bull shit.

Deactivate the link, suspend or close the affiliate. What is there to talk about ?

Hmm Ill tell you this. A TON of my content uses these file names... rxp333 I DO HAVE ALL 2257 info for everybit of content on everyone of my sites. Either find where I said I dont have 2257 for anything.




Oh and Willy here is from the about on vuze.com

http://www.vuze.com/About.html

Terms:
You may NOT promote our products & services on any site containing illegal content, torrents, warez or any other form of questionable material.

10 seconds to write.

About 4 hours of research to locate and shut off any affiliate promoting your products.

It's simple... Who sends you the most traffic with the highest ratios 1:423532? Go to the referring sites, and examine the traffic sources. If it's illegal, kill the accounts.

It's a no-brainer IMHO, and this "We'll deal with this tomorrow" stuff is garbage.

Mad views!

yeah like a phone call tomorrow " to talk about it ".


Bro! pick up the phone we need to talk.
Ok bro, whats up I was busy waxing my vette.
Sorry Bro, but some trolls on GFY outed you, we need to talk.
WTF Bro, fuck them, what they bitching about now.
Bro, its your ad on that torent site.
Bro, I advertise on like 50 torrent sites, which one.
Bro, the tnaflix one. We need to do something, the trolls are bitching.
Ok Bro, just tell them you looking into it.
BRO! i already tried that. They not buying that this time.
Hmmm, lets see Bro. Can you make me a new account?
AHHH good idea Bro, Let me make you a new account, and I will shut this one down.
Ok works for me Bro, hey when you going to buy me drinks again?
Soon Bro.
Ok Bro, I need to run before my wax dries.
Later Bro.
Later.

that pretty much sums it up.

:321GFY

For the record BoyAlley loves chocolate pudding.

Carry on

PS Josh is a tool who should seriously consider his position in life and his moral standings.

Again BoyAlley if you want to discuss it hit me up directly. I have NEVER stolen anything from anyone. You think I "stole" 750.00 from him and then bought him a 1200.00 HD camera. Do you REALLY think he would still have me selling for him and doing other business if I had stolen? Use your brain.

People in this industry aren't so retarded that you can feed them a spoonful of horse shit and expect them to reply "oh thank you that chocolate pudding is very good may I please have some more".

u = joke....

I predict 15 pages by midnight.

I think forums are a great place to discuss issues like this too - it makes shit happen instead of getting a blowoff email reply.

It's always the question: without porn, what exactly would the dating sites and fleshlight style sites use to promote their products? It's not like people are going to google and typing "I want a rubber thing to stick over my dick while I whack off". People aren't going to want to look at a gallery of 20 different fleshlights. A dating description without a way to contact the person is extremely useless.

Where do you think that Fleshlight and AFF would be without porn traffic and the traffic generated from stolen porn product? AFF would be much smaller, and fleshlight would be nothing more than a demo unit on the owner's dick.

If Fleshlight is going to have a policy of accepting torrent traffic, then the adult companies need to have a "no fleshlight" policy.

FleshJosh... This is a clear violation of your Terms of Service as it currently exists...

The following types of subject matter are considered unacceptable and will not be permitted on an Affiliate site:
Child pornography and/or any depiction of underage participants (including participants who are dressed and depicted as underage, even though the participants are clearly adults);
Incest;
Bestiality;
Images or content that is in any way unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, or otherwise legally prohibited;
Promoting fraudulent, unlawful, misleading, or unfair business practices or involving unfair competition;
Promoting discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, or age;
Incorporating any materials which infringe or assist others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights;
Non-consenting or coercive sex (including depictions of sex with individuals who are sleeping or under the influence of drugs or alcohol)
Sex acts associated with pain or violence;
Bondage (where consent of participants is not clearly depicted);
Defecation;
Any website that "takes over" a user's web browser, installing software without the user's permission or not releasing the browser to the user's control (multiple popups) on exit from any page within the affiliate site. (If leaving your site causes a user to reboot their system to close the browser, your site will not be accepted.);
WAREZ sites;
We reserve the right to reject sites on Geocities/Yahoo, Angelfire, AOL/Compuserve, MSN, Tripod, or any other free web host, or any web host on which adult content is not in compliance with the host's terms and conditions;
Note that should your site violate any of the above listed terms, we may find the site acceptable if it is clear that the participants are willing. If you have very heavy bondage or violent material, we will probably not be able to accept you. All sites are subject to approval on an individual basis.

ALL torrent sites have unlincesed content.

Any affiliate program that accepts torrent sites are no good on my book.

:2 cents:

Fleshlights own business model violates their TOS!! Ha ha!

xoxo,
Megan

try defend torrent sites until you are blue in the face. I looked at the link you posted: http://www.vuze.com i see tv shows no porn. I looked around again I see no porn.

If it is 100% torrent site and user submitted content I find it hard to believe that everyone that submitts to it does so with content they own 100%.

you are the biggest waste of time on here i cant wait till the day you get banned.

Does anyone like sticky ?

Oh, and also in your TOS:
You agree to fully comply with 18 USC 2257 et seq, ("2257") including but not limited to its notice and recordkeeping requirements, as a condition precedent to your participation in this affiliate program or providing any traffic or links from your web pages to our site. You agree to immediately provide to us as requested, in our sole discretion, record keeping documents and data needed for us to comply with 2257 or for us to audit, from time to time, your compliance with such statute.


None of those torrent sites have valid 2257 records.

Brilliant :disgust

hey
why don't we discuss how fleshlight sales are manually added to the webmasters accounts?
id like to know how that is working...

STFU! you are worst then heart burn and a migrain combined.

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

Now shut the fuck up you worthless thief.

just recently he said they aren't doing it that way anymore

when the warehouse marks something as shipped it automatically marks it as a sale in the nats admin

Here's AFF's Terms:
You are prohibited from submitting an Affiliate Network Application if your site or service(s) are involved in unlawful activity or contain objectionable material including by way of example only: a site or services containing images or content that is in any way unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, or otherwise legally prohibited, a site or services facilitating illegal activity or considered obscene or harmful to minors or not in compliance with applicable laws; a site or services promoting fraudulent, unlawful, misleading, or unfair business practices, a site or services promoting violence, a site or services that has sent unsolicited commercial e-mail within the past four years, a site or services that intends on sending unsolicited commercial e-mail at any time during the term of this agreement, a site or services promoting discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, or age, a site or services incorporating any materials which infringe or assist others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights, or a site or services involving unfair competition (collectively "Content Restrictions").

this is the same company that won't let you bid on their trademark fleshlight terms for PPC yet they accept torrent traffic from their affiliates that steal from others. bunch of greedy fuckers over at fleshlight. never would promote such a company and hope others won't support them either. keep bumping this thread.