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Snake Doctor 08-13-2007 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 12922938)
I predict 15 pages by midnight.
I posted twice on the first page....SIG FOR SALE :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ALOTI 08-13-2007 03:42 PM
For the record the site I mentioned in http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/760026-jesus-christ-support-stealing-content-fuck-fleshlight.html has some Bestiality. Hope AFF knows.

ALOTI

Aussie Rebel 08-13-2007 03:43 PM
I think it's about time the adult industry started boycotting Fleshlight and Dating sites that accept torrent traffic, As as far as not posting on forums about stolen content and cp I find on torrent sites with with your ads next to it, GET FUCKED!! Your not being professional about it, so why should we? Not only will I post about it, I'll screen shot it for everyone to see.

Fuck Fleshlight, from now on I wont even promote sponsors that promote you

D 08-13-2007 03:46 PM
:batman :batman

Iron Fist 08-13-2007 03:52 PM
Lots of love in this thread today...

Humpy Leftnut 08-13-2007 04:10 PM
How is the discussion with the rapists going? Have you come to mutually beneficial terms to continue to do business with the rapists? We'd love to hear what kind of deal you managed to tweak?

seeric 08-13-2007 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12923224)
How is the discussion with the rapists going? Have you come to mutually beneficial terms to continue to do business with the rapists? We'd love to hear what kind of deal you managed to tweak?
not sure what discussion needs to happen really.

if i really wanted to i can go there once a week, find some content from someones program that will bitch like hell on the boards. if you take down one, another goes up. until they remove all their ads from sites that rob from people to make money, and terminate accounts, theres no discussion to be had.


what needs to happen is to not take traffic from those thief sites. bottom line.

stickyfingerz 08-13-2007 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12923034)
STFU! you are worst then heart burn and a migrain combined.

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

Now shut the fuck up you worthless thief.
You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.

BradM 08-13-2007 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923275)
You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.
Why? So you can just lie on ICQ/phone/Skype/whatever? Why bother, we all have you painted.

GatorB 08-13-2007 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923275)
You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.
What are you going to do sue him? Fuck off sticky. Go steal some more shit.

sextoyking 08-13-2007 04:23 PM
If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....

stickyfingerz 08-13-2007 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM (Post 12923285)
Why? So you can just lie on ICQ/phone/Skype/whatever? Why bother, we all have you painted.
Take your own advice.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=drama

Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM (Post 11061799)
Some of you spend all day here posting about other people.

Personally I could give a shit about what goes on here. Why not take that energy and submit some galleries, or hit up some clients - or better yet follow through on some stuff.

No one cares, its YOU and the sigwhores.

seeric 08-13-2007 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 12923288)
If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....

i'm a former cop.

the owners name is steve.

thats all i know.

Voodoo 08-13-2007 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 12923288)
If memory serves me correctly the owner of fleshlight is a former cop.

You would think he and the company would be looking out for the industry that helps pay it's bills, put food on the table, etc.

Josh I don't know you - you seem new or whatever - but def. defensive.. If it was me I would just change my TOS, make a statement, etc.

Megan, yes most distributors (the big boys and girls) do toys and dvd's - I know them all, or most...

See the owner, forget his name - used to allow us all to sell fleshlights yrs back- we all sold tons of them. Then all of a sudden he pretty much cut everyone off, most all distributors, wholesalers, etc. Man he pissed a ton of ppl off.

His choice of course but it did suck forsure.....

Get your marketing and pr stuff straight - be ohnest and upfront and you shouldn't have many more issues....
Their TOS already state that they don't allow this activity. They just went against it. Same with AFF.


Incorporating any materials which infringe or ASSIST others to infringe on any copyright, trademarks, patents, or other intellectual property rights;

sextoyking 08-13-2007 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 12923297)
i'm a former cop.

the owners name is steve.

thats all i know.


Steve - mabey that was it - it was many yrs ago....

When they first came out - they didn't mind everyone, stores, etc. selling there products but then bamm, no more.

I think I talked to him once and my biz partner - well he was a big asshole on the phone - mabey things have changed now - but hard to forget sometimes.

BradM 08-13-2007 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923295)
Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.

stickyfingerz 08-13-2007 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM (Post 12923315)
Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.
Done ahh damn... Except I didnt steal a thing, and if you think I would ruin myself over 750.00 then you sir are a fool. Use your brain.

BradM 08-13-2007 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923320)
Done ahh damn... Except I didnt steal a thing, and if you think I would ruin myself over 750.00 then you sir are a fool. Use your brain.
I am using it.
A) You're an idiot. You've proven it many times by being the only person on a side of the fence during an argument. You'll sometimes argue an orange being red in color and defend it until the thread dies simply because you misunderstood the question to begin with but can't admit being wrong. This makes you stupid, and a bit crazy.
B) You continually lie and change your story about the asian content bullshit
C) No one likes you

JFK 08-13-2007 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 12922938)
I predict 15 pages by midnight.
dont think it will:winkwink:

stickyfingerz 08-13-2007 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM (Post 12923332)
I am using it.
A) You're an idiot. You've proven it many times by being the only person on a side of the fence during an argument. You'll sometimes argue an orange being red in color and defend it until the thread dies simply because you misunderstood the question to begin with but can't admit being wrong. This makes you stupid, and a bit crazy.
B) You continually lie and change your story about the asian content bullshit
C) No one likes you
Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....

brand0n 08-13-2007 04:37 PM
so many people in this thread.. i dont know where to start


i got it
brad.. in a couple weeks i want to try out your cream. no bs.

brand0n 08-13-2007 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923351)
Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....
ive been playing halo2 today so im going to use a halo term

bradm pawns nubs


that shit killed me.. i havent heard shit like that since aol days

Pornwolf 08-13-2007 05:02 PM
This is even worse for Fleshlight than Ramos's unfortunate fiasco.

It's a case study in how not to handle webmasters.

Even though I absolutely disapprove of AFF's support of torrents, at least Lars knows how to take it on the chin without creating more enemies with every post because of personal issues.

dav3 08-13-2007 05:02 PM
Dude, halo2? Fuck... I got that game for free with my sound card. Played it for 2 minutes, then promptly uninstalled that shit and threw the cd as far as I could in the woods behind my house. Even the squirrels ran away from it.

will76 08-13-2007 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923275)
You best watch it with the thief comments. And you better watch it with the half truths Will.... You are blurring facts to try and make it look like something it wasnt. You DO NOT know the facts. Hey Will hit me up if you want to discuss it. I know you wont though. Talk on the phone? Hit me up. Icq? Skype whatever.
it is a waste of time to copy and paste to you, sorry i have better things to do then to talk to you.


and what part of this is false?

YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.

will76 08-13-2007 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM (Post 12923315)
Sorry I am confused about how this relates to you being a thief who was caught, exposed and painted.

There's no connection. Keep trying to spin it son, you're done in the industry.
LOL done? wtf?? wouldn't you have to be started before you can be done :1orglaugh

EdgeXXX 08-13-2007 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 12923441)
This is even worse for Fleshlight than Ramos's unfortunate fiasco.

It's a case study in how not to handle webmasters.

Even though I absolutely disapprove of AFF's support of torrents, at least Lars knows how to take it on the chin without creating more enemies with every post because of personal issues.
No shit. I think Josh has ended up turning this into a PR nightmare. :2 cents:

will76 08-13-2007 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923351)
Oh noes BradM doesnt like me... I havent changed my "story" once. Funny Brad has no problem with me, and has committed to doing MORE business with me after all this. HE was the one that THOUGHT he was ripped off. Then he found out the REAL story, and recanted. Not good enough for BradM though he knows more than the guy that started the drama. Jesus fucking Christ. Im done with this thread. And Gfy for the night. Have work to do. Enjoy ruining the axles on your bandwagons....
like usual you wont reply to this:

Quote:
YOU sold content for someone else, YOU had the money sent to your account, YOU used the money on your person bills, 2 weeks later YOU still did not pay the owner of the content for the sale. What fuck do you call that then??? it is stealing. The owner of the content did not give you permission to use the money on your personal bills, and he had to hear about the sale from the customer. 2 weeks time you couldn't even tell him that you made a sale and had been paid, you were too busy using his money on yourself.

Why didn't you send him the epass payment when you collected the money 2 weeks earlier instead of using the money on your personal bills.
other then trying to spin it.

BoyAlley 08-13-2007 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdgeXXX (Post 12923481)
No shit. I think Josh has ended up turning this into a PR nightmare. :2 cents:
Par for the course. :2 cents:

who 08-13-2007 05:16 PM
Fleshlight why did you not cancel my account when I spammed 3.4 mill emails with my code?

seeric 08-13-2007 05:17 PM
there are also programs that support people signing up for 1 dollar and teaching them how to cancel right away to get access to all this free torrent shit. the program basically owns the torrent site.

the sponsor is in on it if you know what i mean. they get the CC so they can bang it however they can in the future and give the surfers access to everyone elses shit for a buck.



i'll get to them later.

aico 08-13-2007 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12922921)
Do you REALLY think he would still have me selling for him and doing other business if I had stolen? Use your brain.
I do, without a doubt. I know Brad and I know he has been ripped off by almost everyone he's done business with, and you're the only one to buy him a $1,200 camera, so I think he would continue to work with you after you stole from him. It's not like he is raking in the money after all it wasn't that long ago that he was living at home with his mother cuz he had no money. He's a nice guy, but let's face it, he's not the brightest bulb on the tree when it comes to business.

Nicky 08-13-2007 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12923320)
if you think I would ruin myself over 750.00 then you sir are a fool.
Please enlighten us with the correct amount it would take.

SureFire 08-13-2007 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12922921)
Again BoyAlley if you want to discuss it hit me up directly. I have NEVER stolen anything from anyone. You think I "stole" 750.00 from him and then bought him a 1200.00 HD camera. Do you REALLY think he would still have me selling for him and doing other business if I had stolen? Use your brain.

Personally, I think he would still do business with 'sticky fingers' since he makes more catching one who steals from him than selling his content. What are you going to buy him the next time you need to pay your bills on time or pocket the money and get caught? A prosumer video camera :Oh crap

Minte 08-13-2007 06:01 PM
Anyone realize how simple it is to compete with Fleshlight?
I know 4 different plastics vendors in China that would tool it up for under $500 and sell them for a couple of dollars each. Shipping adds about 15&#37; to the cost.

Anyone on this board could be in that business with inventory in 10-12 weeks.
Google has listings of hundreds of competent Asian manufacturers.

Red Ezra 08-13-2007 06:03 PM
Fleshlight's Black Monday

DS250 08-13-2007 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12922665)
Josh, did you really and honestly think you could come here to GFY and put one past us all? You're not saving face, you're losing it. Let's reflect:

- You cut cheques to sites that only exist to give away stolen, copyrighted porn
- You don't write into your TOS that you won't deal with torrent sites, of which MAYBE 2&#37; respect copyright laws
- You claim there is a "right way" to get this traffic, but don't explain
- You claim your company takes efforts to stop (errrr, read: make more profitable) this kind of thing, but won't talk about what those steps might be
- You prefer to talk to BoyAlley than talk about the issues at hand

You're clearly fuckin the dog on this one. It's plain to see you feel you have more to gain from torrent sites than you have to lose from this mismatch community of affiliates here. Of this, you're almost certainly correct.

How many people pulled their Fleshlight ads after reading this thread? My guess is 0.
Wow, says the guy that owns warez sites. There sure are a lot of hypocrites in this thread. I can name at least ten people that have posted here off the top of my head that own warez, torrent , or sites that give away content by rapidshare, depositfiles, megaupload. Amazing, if people only knew how many of you in this thread were talking out both sides of your mouths.

SureFire 08-13-2007 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12922944)
It's always the question: without porn, what exactly would the dating sites and fleshlight style sites use to promote their products? It's not like people are going to google and typing "I want a rubber thing to stick over my dick while I whack off". People aren't going to want to look at a gallery of 20 different fleshlights. A dating description without a way to contact the person is extremely useless.

Where do you think that Fleshlight and AFF would be without porn traffic and the traffic generated from stolen porn product? AFF would be much smaller, and fleshlight would be nothing more than a demo unit on the owner's dick.

If Fleshlight is going to have a policy of accepting torrent traffic, then the adult companies need to have a "no fleshlight" policy.
RawAlex,

You are right. And, the TOS of dating sites and sex toys are so vague that some idiot (stealer) can rip off a mainsteam website pictures and put up a banner ad from them saying please support our sponsors to keep this site up.

Emailing the sponsor DOES NOT work. :(

EdgeXXX 08-13-2007 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12923688)
Wow, says the guy that owns warez sites. There sure are a lot of hypocrites in this thread. I can name at least ten people that have posted here off the top of my head that own warez, torrent , or sites that give away content by rapidshare, depositfiles, megaupload. Amazing, if people only knew how many of you in this thread were talking out both sides of your mouths.
Personally, I would love to know which ones...

RawAlex 08-13-2007 06:10 PM
In case everyone hasn't caught on, josh has left the building. Same MO as Lars these days, drop in, drop a huge stinking pile of shit on the board, argue for a bit about the shit, and then leave the people to yabber amoungst themselves.

Bottom line simple: If you have an adult site and you are promoting fleshlights, it is time to drop them.


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