:thumbsup

so true in many ways...

Right.

That is until you end up missing a payment in the lost payment triangle. Then people would be all over board(s) complaining about not getting their epass from company 'X".

Then company 'X' has to spend time, and resources to help out it's affiliates for a problem that is not theirs, plus dealing with PR issues, and the costs associated with it when they have bigger fish to fry.

All because they did not take the initiative to save themselves the grief, and make a good business decision to protect their affiliates.

:disgust

exactly..

affiliates for the most part dont understand it takes man power to operate a company online aswell as offline, one in the same. so it only makes sense to eliminate any possible threats to the bottom line including getting rid of some half ass payment solution that the bottom could fall out from under at any given moment with zero notice leaving us ALL hanging out to dry.


for fucks sake people open your eyes. grow up and learn how to-do proper business and act ressponsible and be respectful of the fact that program owners have allot on the line all the time to keep you high maintenance bitches happy

well ok then...

Because it is founded on a base which, whether they want to believe it or not, leaves the beneficial owners open to prosecution, which would most probably have risks attached to any client funds held. It's not viable for beneficiaries, whether using nominees or not, to be US citizens and be engaged in transacting for the gaming industry.

*sign* :)

You should have int. wire as payment option.

that would mean the scammer affiliate would have to give up thier real information. clearly what the pro epassporte people are trying to avoid doing.

anyone who drops a prrogram they make money with becuase they cant get epass has sometihng to hide and that makes me suspicious.

scammers suck.

Whats the problem with Epassporte??

Who care?Nobody promote makingcoin one way or another.

I hope this isn't a trend. I like the convenience of epass payments!

Never let the man hold you down

I do wonder what their policy is if a program opened up an account for an affiliate and the affiliate turned out to be a scammer? What happens then? Do they block every other affiliate in there until they get their money back?
If the company has sent 200k to process payments to affiliates, how secure are the funds once it's in their hands? As personal account holders, I know, from others experiences that some folks got double-screwed on some scammer, but is it the same with 'sponsor' accounts?

Trey, would you know?

Any programs besides Joe Bucks using http://www.payoneer.com/ to pay out?

at the moment, I have over $40,000 paid to me per month through epassporte.
I actually prefer it at the moment to getting wires.It comes much quicker and is harder for my ex-missus and government to trace.
My challenge is to spend it fast enough so it doesn't build up too much.:)

LMAO - Want help? ;)

as far as i know they dont block every other acct that you created, just the offenders acct. but it wouldnt suprise me if that policy changed in the next 10 minutes knowing how those fags operate.

In a lot of cases it is hard to cash USA checks outside of the USA.

Great link. Checking it out.

Ok cool - do you know if they have some form of insurance on the funds they hold in trust for their clients/customers? **just asking anyone actually - not you in particular**
I just don't understand why they don't have fraud insurance of something of that sort protecting the good clients from getting screwed over.

Plus in many jurisdictions you have to pay extra fees for international cheques, and a long (4-6 weeks) delay while the cheque is processed. Epass is free, instant, and I can get my $ out of an ATM the same day the payout goes through, anywhere in the world... Why is that difficult for people to understand?

I find it funny all the "international" whiners about epassporte... Guess there were no international WMs making bank in this biz before ePass came along... idiots. Good way to cut out the beer money WMs from this biz so :thumbsup

:thumbsup

My Location Germany

Quick example

Lets say I have 3 sponsors and earn 200$ each (and let assume they pay on the weekly basis)


Payment

Sponsor A (Paying Using Epassporte)

Got my 200$ Instantly
Bought 100$ Worth of Traffic Instantly using epassporte online payment
(and that means I will earn something next week :) )
Bought Replacement HDD on Amazon.de instantly using virtual epassporte (got delivered next day)
Bought LEGO for my son in nearby TOYS”R”US using epassporte Visa Plastic card


Sponsor B (Paying using Wire)
Got nothing coz minimum international wire is 500$

Sponsor C (Paying using Old Stupid thing called – Check)
Waited for ~15-20 days to receive the paper itself
Paid ~15us processing fee and waited ~7-14more days
for money to appear on my main account.

Looks to me like you need to stop living pay check to pay check and actually manage your money better. Then you wouldn't have to bitch about a program not having epass. Why should your money problems be the problem of the sponsor.

Tempest it was an example. But Checks must die.
If epassporte will die i will switch to wire or find myself another sponsor(s)

uh huh... and my point is that if the people bitching actually managed their money so they had a month or 2 of money in their accounts so they could spend what they needed to without having to get money "fast", then it wouldn't be an issue.. Instead they pass their poor money management issues onto the programs. Anyone that has money knows that you typically stop carrying about getting money weekly.. Instead, you start increasing your minimums so that you just get your money once or twice a month instead.

breaking epass

its all going to shit...

Erevcard is a new alternative coming out very soon and uses domestic banks.

Mitch

that if you ever get the check... i had lost several thousands usd because my checks got stolen in their way to me...
but seems like some US program owners dont want to understand why checks sucks.. or they give a shit about anyone but US based webmasters i guess.

Ok so Neteller, Payoneer, and Erevcard so far for alternatives. Anybody got experience with 1 or more?

I am surprised that ePassporte has managed to stay around this long.

A good move, Chris, for your affiliates sake.

Look at the history... before epass -and NATS, most paysites used ccbill or other processors that also handled the payouts. It was cheaper to merge the accounts, and epass is an alternative to what processors did earlier. So this is not about making bank, but reducing the costs. One big wire is cheaper than 30 smaller wires... its quite simple logic.

did I miss the post where makingcoin said why ?
I konw the obvious reasons, but I'd like to hear the reason from them

what makes you think they dont have insurance?

they are probably double dipping.

putting in a claim plus collecting from you the webmaster.

:Oh crap:Oh crap

Unfortunately, we don't have a choice but to drop them. We're offshore and our bank doesn't take international checks. This really sucks!:Oh crap

Wondering why your bank does not take "international checks"?? Strange..

Same here - offshore - and deal with a number of OS banks in different jurisdictions and all of them accept checks, irrespective of where they come from. Most OS banks would be out of business unless they did deal internationally.