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Platinum Dave 08-30-2007 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13010475)
Are you seriously using this as an argument? Society thinks we are scum, so we should act like it? Wow...
No not at all. But its awesome how you twist words to make what I wrote sound the worst possible way possible.

I just find it funny that we are arguing over something small here, we are all trying to be perfect citizens. But no matter what we do we are looked at as scum of the earth because we do porn.

It's just ironic when you think of it.

Sen 08-30-2007 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010433)
read what i wrote above about how it affects how programs determine payouts.

i'm not saying that it's impossible to make money off of incentivizing surfers. you obviously don't understand mainstream very well.

what i am saying is that normal payouts in an adult program are calculated NOT by taking incentivization into account, therefore they do not want to deal with it -as well as the chargebacks that it generates.
Darling if u got me sign up for a fucking casinio so i get 100 dollars for u I get that 100 dollars gamble the 20 bucks away and never come back again. I don't gamble in a casino I have a stock market for that or a real estate market.

Its both wrong and both u are stealing from them and all your points also go up whit adult and mainstream.

And that I don't understand mainstream very well ? I am not known in adult but I am in my business and that is mainstream.

esnem 08-30-2007 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 13010518)
Darling if u got me sign up for a fucking casinio so i get 100 dollars for u I get that 100 dollars gamble the 20 bucks away and never come back again. I don't gamble in a casino I have a stock market for that or a real estate market.

Its both wrong and both u are stealing from them and all your points also go up whit adult and mainstream.

And that I don't understand mainstream very well ? I am not known in adult but I am in my business and that is mainstream.
mainstream programs that accept incentivization on their leads do so with that in mind when they structure their payouts. most adult affiliate programs do not. perhaps i should have said you don't know adult very well.

Video Rob 08-30-2007 12:46 PM
So what? Grow up frogman and get over it

J B 08-30-2007 12:46 PM
It doesn't matter whether it's adult or gambling. It's against the terms and it's considered fraud. Whether companies - adult or gambling - knowingly take such signups eventhough they don't allow it officially is a different story...

Peaches 08-30-2007 12:47 PM
OK, let's take away the any aspect of ripping off the casino because for all we know, Zorg has billions and was going to blow it all on that website.

But the response from Brad to Zorg POLITELY turning down his request to do this is what's just bizarre, IMO.

Of course, I get attacked for pointing that out even though others have too, lol ;)

Sen 08-30-2007 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13010493)
fuck man

what a pain in the ass zorgman has been

i even tried to pay hosting for him awhile back and he forgot about that project and said it was all my fault...lol

i still pay that hosting bill you fat fuck

all this drama

im done.
no more posts in this thread from me
i ask evryone else to stop posting as well

im sure some will keep bumping etc..as they have no life...sort of like peaches...no posts ever...but she can come in here to fuck with me....thats nice...earning those kharma points eh

so i say hello to all new readers:)
no theft here folks...if some asshat wants to lose 2000...thats right 2000 joins or so a month..then they can feel free to do as they fuckin well please..everyone else should shut their hole
no animals were hurt in this thread
and no theft or defrauding was done
You are very full of your self huh ? What does a program maneger make a year ? 100k 200k 300k ? I really don't know but if I hear u talking I would think 1 2 or 3 million. And then want to scam some casino for a couple of bucks ha ha.
But if I was your boss and this was under work hours I fire u. U are not working u are making money for your self.

Kram 08-30-2007 12:51 PM
What a piece of shit Brad is ...

Sen 08-30-2007 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010540)
mainstream programs that accept incentivization on their leads do so with that in mind when they structure their payouts. most adult affiliate programs do not. perhaps i should have said you don't know adult very well.
Then don't ever complain if it happens to u.
It's against there rules and thats that. Its against your rules so thats that also.

If u want to talk if it is all oke. Go i don't care but don't wine that torrents are fucking your business up because u are as bad as them and u must know better.

esnem 08-30-2007 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 13010575)
Then don't ever complain if it happens to u.
It's against there rules and thats that. Its against your rules so thats that also.

If u want to talk if it is all oke. Go i don't care but don't wine that torrents are fucking your business up because u are as bad as them and u must know better.
we have dealt with fraud plenty in the past and have handled it accordingly.

Sen 08-30-2007 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010591)
we have dealt with fraud plenty in the past and have handled it accordingly.
Then please explain in simple English (English is not my mother language) what is the difference between scamming a casino and a adult site.

Varius 08-30-2007 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13009836)
you be real careful now zorgie

you already threw down the gauntlet
all gloves are off in my mind
No offense Brad, but you don't help your case sounding like a 14-year old IRC chat room warrior :2 cents:

esnem 08-30-2007 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 13010622)
Then please explain in simple English (English is not my mother language) what is the difference between scamming a casino and a adult site.
from what i read on the icq log, brad wasn't necessarily scamming. to me it looked like he was spamming his icq list for leads for the casino.

esnem 08-30-2007 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 13010642)
No offense Brad, but you don't help your case sounding like a 14-year old IRC chat room warrior :2 cents:
yea brad, i have to admit at first i thought someone hacked your icq.

TDF 08-30-2007 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 13010642)
No offense Brad, but you don't help your case sounding like a 14-year old IRC chat room warrior :2 cents:

watch it,that invisible traffic he was going to send will bankrupt you:2 cents:

Sen 08-30-2007 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010646)
from what i read on the icq log, brad wasn't necessarily scamming. to me it looked like he was spamming his icq list for leads for the casino.
Yes for scamming the casino right.

esnem 08-30-2007 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 13010667)
Yes for scamming the casino right.
that's debatable, this thread is retarded.

J B 08-30-2007 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010646)
from what i read on the icq log, brad wasn't necessarily scamming. to me it looked like he was spamming his icq list for leads for the casino.
He offered to pay him $100 for a $20 deposit and this is against the (official) terms of all gambling affiliate programs I know.

Phoenix 08-30-2007 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Varius (Post 13010642)
No offense Brad, but you don't help your case sounding like a 14-year old IRC chat room warrior :2 cents:
yes i know..i lost my cool today

it happens

im backing away from the computer

tomorrow is another day

all this is shit..it isnt even me

Sen 08-30-2007 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010678)
that's debatable, this thread is retarded.
I am retarded apparently I don't get the difference false applying for casino or porn site :(

BusterBunny 08-30-2007 01:10 PM
damn it :disgust

pr0 08-30-2007 01:14 PM
seems to me this guy was asking a favor....from someone who has asked for favors in the past

you're just a punk ass rat for posting this ICQ log

but you don't look great in this either brad......think you lost your temper too quickly

anyways, this is just fucking embarrassing for all people involved

but the real person at blame here, would be the bitch ass rat posting icq logs

Sen 08-30-2007 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13010748)
but the real person at blame here, would be the bitch ass rat posting icq logs
U are so true there they used to run to their mommy now they run to GFY

D 08-30-2007 01:19 PM
Anyone thought of asking someone who works for the affiliate program in question whether they think it's fraudulent or not?

Name the program.

StuartD 08-30-2007 01:24 PM
That's Brad for you... all friendly to my face but the moment his bro DH had a beef with me, Brad's Mr Hyde came out swinging at me... hoping DH would take notice and make his ass available for further puckers.

He's as two faced as they come. Don't bend over backwards for him or anyone he is trying to be bro's with and he'll either "meet you face to face" about it or start trashing your name in random threads.

Profits of Doom 08-30-2007 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by D (Post 13010793)
Anyone thought of asking someone who works for the affiliate program in question whether they think it's fraudulent or not?

Name the program.
I spent a LONG time involved with that industry, and referring players that have no intention of playing to get a bonus payout is always considered fraudulent. I don't know of a single casino that will tolerate it in the hopes of attracting even one customer. Something is odd about the site he was referring to, casino777royal.com, to begin with because it is a brand new page and tries to install it's casino software no matter which button you click...

pocketkangaroo 08-30-2007 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Platinum Dave (Post 13010304)
Well ya never know. Someone may deposit $20 bucks and get paid $100 from Brad. And then end up trying out the casino and becoming a customer and spending alot of money.
And someone might get paid $10 to sign up for your trial by a scamming affiliate and decide he likes the site. As someone who handles an affiliate program, I can't fathom how you can take this stance.

I don't have a dog in this race, I don't know either party. But I've pushed traffic to casinos in the past in large sums. You would be thrown out of every single affiliate program I've ever come across for this. It's the #1 rule in the TOS of every affiliate program. You can say their policies are dumb, that they don't know how to "market", but that rule is black and white with every casino I've ever seen. Since affiliate payouts can be as much as $200, this problem of fraud is prevelent in online casinos and they ban affiliates all the time for it.

ro8in 08-30-2007 01:31 PM
Fucking IRC #gamezkidz channel conversation here.. This is the first time since months I'm reading all reply's hahaha!!! i'm loving it :)

/log > c:\trashtalk.txt

baddog 08-30-2007 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13010272)
casinos are different than adult sites. if i deposit that 20, i am definitely playing it. if i ever want to gamble online again, there's a good chance i'll use a casino that i've used before, even more likely to use a casino that i used last.

that is the value and that's why it's worth it for a casino to pay on those leads. adult sites are an entirely different ballgame.
Your logic is inane.

Profits of Doom 08-30-2007 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13010851)
And someone might get paid $10 to sign up for your trial by a scamming affiliate and decide he likes the site. As someone who handles an affiliate program, I can't fathom how you can take this stance.

I don't have a dog in this race, I don't know either party. But I've pushed traffic to casinos in the past in large sums. You would be thrown out of every single affiliate program I've ever come across for this. It's the #1 rule in the TOS of every affiliate program. You can say their policies are dumb, that they don't know how to "market", but that rule is black and white with every casino I've ever seen. Since affiliate payouts can be as much as $200, this problem of fraud is prevelent in online casinos and they ban affiliates all the time for it.
Very well said...

lazycash 08-30-2007 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Platinum ChrisM (Post 13009925)
I don't think Brad is trying to fraud a poker site. What this looks like to me, is a CPA campaign media buy with the site, with a min $20 deposit. Its nothing more than incentivized traffic being sent to the site to complete the buy.

All I gotta say is, $20 min deposits now? Wow, they must really be hurting.
Are you really that naive, its defrauding an affiliate program. Oh wait, you represent the company that doesn't seem to mind paying affiliates who incentivize signups to your company via warez downloads.

baddog 08-30-2007 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Platinum Dave (Post 13010444)
Casinos scam people everyday.
Justification?

ServerGenius 08-30-2007 01:42 PM
It's the Aliens their fault......bring in the tinfoil hats

candyflip 08-30-2007 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13010704)
yes i know..i lost my cool today

it happens

im backing away from the computer

tomorrow is another day

all this is shit..it isnt even me
You've acted like this before, and I'm sure you will again. Don't bullshit yourself. This IS so you. :1orglaugh

Phoenix 08-30-2007 01:52 PM
guys...nothing shady here

i regularly test sponsor accounts for shaving

i never thought this thread would turn into defrauding bullshit

if they dont like the traffic...trust me someone else will take it

i ran my cards and used my ip
i wanted an ip on the other side of the world to try
we see all joins...so anyone thinking of sending to them

not bad registration to signup ratio

Zorgman..can take a hike...he could have used that 80 bucks for groceries i bet as well..ah well. StuartD love you man
im now 100&#37; done in here

KimJI 08-30-2007 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13010981)
guys...nothing shady here

i regularly test sponsor accounts for shaving

i never thought this thread would turn into defrauding bullshit

if they dont like the traffic...trust me someone else will take it

i ran my cards and used my ip
i wanted an ip on the other side of the world to try
we see all joins...so anyone thinking of sending to them

not bad registration to signup ratio

Zorgman..can take a hike...he could have used that 80 bucks for groceries i bet as well..ah well. StuartD love you man
im now 100&#37; done in here
so now its for testing? you started out by saying it was to get your friend up in the next commission bonus group. "this is not for me...this is helping someone else reach a lage bonus payout"

Like you said, you ran your card and used your IP. So you needed someone from somewhere else to do it, so you didnt get caught?

beemk 08-30-2007 02:07 PM
sounds like he was trying to do the same kind of scam as if a sponsor had a contest for 10 signups, and i said "hey sign up for this trial for $2.95 and ill paypal you $20" to 10 different people.

not to mention hes unprofessional as fuck, and if i was his boss he would have been fired for talking to affiliates like that.

Phoenix 08-30-2007 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13011003)
so now its for testing? you started out by saying it was to get your friend up in the next commission bonus group. "this is not for me...this is helping someone else reach a lage bonus payout"

Like you said, you ran your card and used your IP. So you needed someone from somewhere else to do it, so you didnt get caught?
ratios were dropping big fucking time....we tested and saw all money put in

so they arent shaving..unless they somehow know who is coming in

i started out by trying not to say anything but the usual board crap

then people started in with theories

goodbye

Phoenix 08-30-2007 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 13011046)
sounds like he was trying to do the same kind of scam as if a sponsor had a contest for 10 signups, and i said "hey sign up for this trial for $2.95 and ill paypal you $20" to 10 different people.

not to mention hes unprofessional as fuck, and if i was his boss he would have been fired for talking to affiliates like that.
send me a click..or even let me know you are trying and i will talk with you about your bad situation everyday for four years

just lie and say you will try..he was asked many times...he wasnt interested

im nice as pie to absolutely everyone except the people who are wasting my time and are not even interested in trying.

KimJI 08-30-2007 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 13011059)
ratios were dropping big fucking time....we tested and saw all money put in

so they arent shaving..unless they somehow know who is coming in

i started out by trying not to say anything but the usual board crap

then people started in with theories

goodbye
I don't believe that story for a second :2 cents:


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