glad you took down the links. If you would have replied with that first I think that thread would have been over a long time ago.

Joe seems like a standup guy unlike Legendary Turd and Andrew Cornhole - not everybody keeps up on the GFY goings on.

I was referring to before reading this post. Get a clue. Posting here, spacedog is looking to see who else disagrees with zango being on my site. I'm sure someone saw zango on my site before spacedog, they've been on my site for a month. But no one contacted me there was a problem and thus I was letting everyone know that spacedog is the first.

I'm confused Joe, you've been a frequent poster here over the last year and you'd have to have been hiding under a rock not to have seen the backlash against Zango here. Why did someone have to contact you and complain for you to decide you no longer want them as an advertiser? Knowing what you know about Zango how it negatively affects your own as well as other's affiliate revenue, couldn't you have just told them from the beginning you didn't want them as an advertiser?

I've bought several campaigns from you and you've always been easy to work with and provide quality traffic, but I'll never buy ad spots again on your site if those are the kind of companies you decide to continue to do business with.

And if he had contact me directly, then it would have never started to begin with.

Fucking genius huh?!!

I talked to the people at Zango for at least a week before I let them advertise on my site. I mentioned their past issues and they told me they stopped. Eventually I let them as a test. My question to everyone... can you prove that Zango is still up to their same old BS?! I'm not saying they're not, at least from when I tested their installs. And don't think I'm defending them either as a bad company, but I'm a fare person when it comes to people saying they've changed their ways.

Now, second. I don't care if you advertise on my site or not. If you don't buy the traffic, your competition will. If you have a problem with another advertiser... CONTACT ME!!! Don't be lazy, it only takes a few mins to send an email. This reply only tells me that you're inconsiderate to me professionally and I don't want to do anything with you considering you're threatening me with your business. Sorry, I will never sell traffic to you again.

Chill out, you are totally misinterpreting the tone of my response as I was not professionally inconsiderate and not at all threatening. I simply asked why the onus has to be on us to contact you regarding who you are advertising with? Its as if you don't feel any responsibility lies with you in regards to who you select to advertise with. Own up if you made a mistake and stop trying to divert the responsibility back on us. Also, there's nothing wrong with using GFY to notify fellow webmasters of our concerns, sorry you feel so sensitive that we must contact you privately.

Lol wrong, if you had never agreed to let Zango advertise then it never would have started, you seem to be missing the key stage.

To me you are, a threat in any form is the same and will always be considered unprofessional. You did NOT ask anything with your threat. Read it again.

I've addressed why i let them advertise, so review that reply.

His post wasn't even directed as wanting a response from me, yet he trades with me. If he is angry about it, don't you think it would be in his best interest to contact me so I can address the issue faster? That is sensitivity of the issue. Or was he complaining just to complain. He can complain publicly all he wants, but at least contact me.

It was never missed, I've addressed why I let them advertise. Review that reply.

Im never the one to miss an opportunity to plug my site on a busy thread, so...

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Anyone else have some shameless plugs?

Just wanna say ever since I have had a link exchange with Joes traffic its been nothing but good quality traffic for us.

:thumbsup

Where in the world did I threaten you, I made a factual statement regarding what I would do should you choose to continue doing business with those advertisers in the future. So were the other people who in this thread who said they wouldn't advertise with you also threatening you? You've already stated that you are no longer advertising with Zango, so I was not saying I wouldn't advertise with you currently, it was future tense.

I DID ask two very distinct questions in the post, read the phrases with question marks again. The only thing you addressed on why you let them advertise is because they told you they stopped? That doesn't even make any sense, stop what? Stop popping up popups on people's computers who have mistakenly downloaded their adware thinking they were getting a free movie? If they had stopped doing that then they would have no business model and no need to even advertise, did you really think they were going to tell you they planned on infesting your surfer's computers with adware so that the next time they come to your site a nice popup would appear when they clicked on any of yours or your advertisers banners or text links? Give me a fucking break, I know you aren't that naive.

So you knew who they were and what they did, and you still send them traffic? How can you think that is OK just because no one caught you?

Did you go to the same school as Stickyfingers where its not scamming people as long as nobody knows. And when you get caught you just stop scamming and thing everything is just fine?

You took the clean traffic from honest webmasters, send it to a site that asked people to install a software that steals the sales from the webmasters.

This mean that the traffic you sell is properly Zango Infested now. If its Infested, then its not worth much, because there is a big chance the webmaster wont get credited for any of the sales

oh they told you they stopped - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

arrogant prick joe - always have been always will be

you lie down with dogs now you've got a few fleas

He may be, but this thread isn't bringing that out. Zango is certainly not just a GFY issue either.

He knew what Zango was, he said he had no clue what Winfixer/Drivecleaner was, yet a simple search would tell the tale. When I contacted him about the Drivecleaner/Winfixer ads, I waited patiently for a response or for him to take down the ads, but had to go to ask about it on another board to get a response.

He chose to overlook Winfixer and Zango's history for his own personal short term gain. Ben Edelman just released more information about Zango still at their old tricks, but he decided to believe a company that has lied and changed their cloaks since their inception.

He trades traffic with quite a few sites that maintain their business in proper fashion and they put their trust in him to do the same. Considering this is the second time in just a short period that he adds nefarious surfer(and webmaster) fucking malware to his site, and with no remorse or humility, it would be hard to send any traffic over there.

Umm.... nope, I was not looking to see who else disagrees.. I signed up to your toplist ages ago, never saw the zango links/ads..

Few days ago your site was added to some blacklists & I read about your zango ads on another forum from a post dated 8/31..

I just wanted to know how long the ads were up, so you say a month, so I guess that means another what, a million new infected US surfers...


You're right, I could have contacted you & said I have a problem with sending traffic to sites with zango ads, but being what it is, I posted here.. a high percentage of the adult webmaster community is actively trying to combat zango & they needed to know..so I posted

Wow, you are all over the place.

So we get the missunderstanding worked out that you meant no one contacted you before this thread was posted but now you move on to say you talked to Zango and they convinced you that they are doing nothing wrong? WTF :1orglaugh

Zango up to their old BS? do you have a clue how they work? The only BS I can think you are talking about is their affiliates doing installs without people knowing. Other than that zango still works the same way. They get it onto people's PCs and then allow other people to bid on urls and hijack traffic.

Let me go to the devil and ask him if he has been a bad boy. WTF did you think Zango was going to say, no we are bad don't use us? are you kidding me. And it obviously doesn't sound like you know how they work. Try reading my previous posts in this thread explaining them. If you are ok with what I posted above and you would do business with a site that opperates that way please let me know so I can make sure to never do business with you.

Here is a shameless plug for you:


JoesTraffic knows who Zango was for a long time, talked to Zango and is confortable sending them traffic and doing business with them.

For every hit he sends them more and more computers are infected. More computers infected the worse every one here ratios will get and the less money all of you will make. Thanks for being a part of the problem and sending traffic to the company that is fucking everyone here.

It's fucking ZANGO and you didn't think twice about selling to them? ... have you been living under a rock the past 6 months?

You're only killing the value of your own traffic... once a surfer is zango infected no one is going to be able to make money off them.

Note to self: Never buy any traffic from JoesTraffic.

Thread bookmarked on the scammer folder too.

Hey Joe I have an idea. You said you were sure about your customers not minding that you send them Zango infested traffic. Then why don't you broadcast a message to them that include a link to this post?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :disgust:disgust :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Damn I will never buy traffic of you ...

I'm cancelling my traffic trading with Joes traffic... It has been worthless for a long time, I just needed a nudge to go and terminate it once and for all...

Have fun with your lynching guys, I'll be here for a very long time and I'm not going any where. This only tells me ya'll are not worth doing business with either.

What else you can except from person who only sells traffic instead using affiliate program.

I sell and trade, not just sell, and I've made a great business out of it... as well as making my clients a lot of money.

Read this BTW...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=765656

a few people have the " opps my bad i fucked up, i am sorry i will never do it again " attitude. But unfortunetly most take the " fuck you , i don't need you, you don't make any money any way" approach. :2 cents:

Exactly, if he would have been somewhat contrite and just said he made a mistake and he'll never let them advertise again this would have been a short thread. So he not only fucks over his surfers with zango installs, but he fucks over his current and future advertisers with clicks from infected returning surfers and then has the balls to attack those who brought it to gfy's attention.

and he is fucking himself since his websites are not being targeted by people using zango traffic. How ironic. he sends traffic to zango so they can infect pcs and those people who get infected will never see joe's sites.... but zango is not up to their BS any more... :upsidedow:1orglaugh

I wonder why no one has contacted the untivirus or addware remover companies about this program ?

Right, has anyone ever reported this?
It should be not too difficult to write an uninstaller and when we all link to it and make people aware Zango thos problem will be gone soon.