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for 10 sites. I can apply for a billing account with any sites get approved and then change my site......I'll probably get away with it for quite a while UNTIL someone reports me through the proper channels. So if you come across sites that have illegal content inform the owner of the content, send him the link of the site and tell him to report it to CCbill problem solved......that site could have been closed by now......get my point? |
This is the problem with content theft sure,but back to my original question which was never really answered.....
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In my opinion you do it for the money. All this contact us well drop them shit is all nonsense to me. You shouldnt work with content thieves its not good for your reputation. Obviously peoples mind set on greed no one is just going to drop CCBill as a group,but I really hope this thread shows people how back stabbing you guys really are over there! |
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On second thought, please skip today and keep posting in this thread. I love reading emotional rants from people who have no fucking clue. :1orglaugh |
I wonder if they'll address this issue.
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I wonder if they'll address this issue.
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Bottom line is CCBill could give a fuck less about whos content is whos as long as they make some cash!:2 cents: |
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Are you a content producer? |
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Whenever I send out my DMCA notices (in proper format) they always go to the site owner, the host, and the billing company and or sponsors on any given page. So far aside from a few hosts CCbill has been the quickest to respond and ensure my content gets removed and or halts their billing. Last time I had to do a repeat DMCA on one site it was not even being billed by ccbill anymore but by one of those smaller rarely used billers. |
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This is the problem they should care from th get go not after the fact! |
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You were told how to respond to this - I am sure after you respond - they will take appr. action. It's like a large ISP (hosting) - they can't monitor tens of thousands of sites they host all the time. They post there policies and if someone violates there policies and or someone complains they will take action. CCbill can check a site at first - but who's to say that site admin / owner doesn't change stuff / content later on. Give them a break. They have been around for yrs and yrs and run a good solid company. I don't process with them but know Ron and some others from there. CCbill and Epoch have kept our industry living pretty much over the years, in the good times and the bad times..... Content Theft SUCKS! - but give a company a chance to rectify the situation. Peace Todd |
I thought this thread was going to involve them in the conspiracy of 9/11.
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Let me see if I can clearly explain why a company like CCBill cannot act until they are notified.
The DMCA provides service providers a safe harbor from liability IF they act expeditiously when notified of infringement (A DMCA letter). Failure to act when properly notifed exposes a company like CCBill to the same liability as the direct infringer. Now, here is the problem: CCBill processes for tens of thousands of sites, some of which I am certain deal in stolen content. If CCBill were to cease processing on sites that they THINK, or BELIEVE are dealing in stolen content WITHOUT being notified by the rights holder, they would then assume the liability for ALL sites that they process for. So in otherwords, site A, B, and C are all dealing in stolen content. CCBill, acting on a hunch, or a belief, cancels processing for sites A and B (without ever receiving a DMCA notice from the rights holder of the content). They miss site C, also dealing in stolen content, and continue processing. They have now assumed the liability for the infringing activity of site C. The argument would be made, hey..you nixed A and B, but you continued to process for C. You believed that A and B were dealing in stolen content, well you should have believed site C was also. Pay up. That is why the DMCA notice was provided for in the DMCA. That is why companies like CCBill, eBay, etc CANNOT act in advance without proper notification, but MUST and do act upon proper notification. It is all about liability. Hope that clears things up. |
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I understand their policy,and Corvette clearly stated that his team is incompetent,and basically they dont give a fuck.:thumbsup Thanks for summing it all up for us:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup |
Hey Ass kissers of CCBill:321GFY
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This industry should thank god every day CCBill and Epoch are open for business, really.
This is just another board troll who doesn't want to stop and listen to business logic and business reality. He's got it out for CCBill no different than SwampThing had it out for me a month ago. He can keep posting but the more he posts the less credibility he has, not that he started with any to begin with. There is a process in place for complaints and if you're not going to slow down and identify yourself and report complaints properly as you have been invited to then just simply shut the fuck up. OR, if you really want to address the issue spend about 10 more minutes googling things and point out the same scenario and examples for every other processor out there and then just go on a you hate the world campaign and tell us how every third party processor is out there to fuck the webmaster. And give me a break on Verotel, I'd echo ModF's comment that they used to do a bang up job processing for all the dog, pig, cow, horse and snake fucking long after every American 3rd party processor stopped. Brad |
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Case and point!!!! |
http://www.redtube.com/367
I know for sure this is new sensations stuff and they DO NOT license. Nor do they give 12 minutes clips for promo reasons .. especially not watermarked =) xoxo, Megan |
Ohh and naughty america dos not give out 25 minute scenes i am sure ...
http://www.redtube.com/343 xoxo, Megan |
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Certainly no one anymore its all about the bros now and it seems they are all living out of each others pockets now:thumbsup Hey maybe they will buy them a Camera!!!!:1orglaugh |
Professional companies like CCBill don't just terminate clients on assumptions. They have contracts and such, you know. What would a client think i they got shut off wrongly because someone didn't know they license content legally (not saying that's the case with redtube as it's obviously not).
Mark clearly stated what you have to send to them, it's not much. Simply send it in (or have the content's owner do it) and get the site terminated in a prompt and professional manner. Right now, you are bitching for the sake of bitching IMO :2 cents: |
Why dont you talk to A1R3K about this Ripshit as you are a content producer, Then maybe you can sort this all out
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excellent , thought out reply...guess you been put in that position too huh.. -:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup Feels like shit when you pay a guy $k`S FOR CONTENT AND A YEAR LATER You Get --- I`ll see you in court routine. |
Great - So the rules of the industry have changed.
All programs, credit card processig companies, hosting companies, design companies, and pretty much everyone in the business must verify that all and any content another company they do business with has the legal rights to use said content. The industry would grind to a halt in seconds. This is a bullshit thread. |
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The industry is out of control,and corrupt! Sad to say your right seems people have enough problems getting the proper 2257 docs why would I think that there is an once of honesty anywhere in this industry? Which brings me to another point here where is any of the thousands of 2257 links to on that fuckin site for any of the content? |
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Ripshitter sounds like a fucking 13 yr old kid |
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http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.redtube.com someone could find this very interesting! |
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THAT ENTIRE FUCKING SITE IS BASICALLY ALL FUCKING STOLEN FUCKING CONTENT! |
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I am going to download a TON of Cherry pimps content and seed it on torrents right now. You can't stop me. |
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Hehe, I'm thinking of opening a tube site, downloading a TON of sponsor content full episodes, and then charging 10/month for access to it. Would the ONLY people to have the "right" to complain about the theft be the content rights owners? If at the movie post dinner, if I had walked to your table and stolen your digital camera, would only you have the right to say that's wrong? |
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