Newsflash Tony - I don't have any platinum records...probably due to the fact that I am not a musician.

Record sales doesn't equal merit or artistic talent. Much of the time it represents a successful marketing machine at work.

The guy is full of himself - a product of his own P.R. dept. His music isn't memorable and will be little more than a footnote in the history books over time.

lol @ prince. adapt or die. You were cool in 1987.

Absolutely, and to add - it took incredible amount of brains and work to get and keep where he is for decades already .

Not only that:

- he has a talent
- composed more than 2 500 songs in his carrer
- 18 of them to be no.1 (made also for others such as Sinead O Connor, The Bangles etc.)
- is able to play 19 instruments

but he also ..:

- always controlled his own records
- always marketed his things his own way
- always controlled his own business
- controlls his own distribution via ngpclub.com where he can do albums for club members only if he wants to

This man is USED to keep control and that's also one of the reasons he is one of the best earning in the business :pimp

Alot of Britney stuff is removed also... interesting :winkwink:

Prince had talent yes i say his so called talent to amounts as much as EP and that is beside mypoint which i made so clearly to you stupid people!
ok let it rest ok!

full work jacking is the sux, however fair use rocks

"The Computer and Communications Industry Association ? a trade group representing Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo, among others ? has issued a report (PDF) that finds fair use exceptions add more than $4.5 trillion in revenue to the U.S. economy and add more value to the U.S. economy than copyright industries contribute. "Recent studies indicate that the value added to the U.S. economy by copyright industries amounts to $1.3 trillion.", said CCIA President and CEO Ed Black. The value added to the U.S. economy by the fair use amounts to $2.2 trillion."

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/12/2252239


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fucking hilarious!

You are 100% correct. The fact that he writes, produces and in most cases plays every instrument on his albums is proof that he is a no talent hack.

He has been forgotten in time because, well, it's only been 23 years since he wrote When Doves Cry and I heard that on the radio today. It's only been 24 year since he released Little Red Corvette and I heard that the other day. Any day now they will stop playing this talentless piece of manufactured garbage.

I'm sure a magazine like Rolling Stone would never put not just one, but two of his records in their top 100 albums of all time list. . . oh that's right, they did.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is without merit.

and furthermore, there are actually VERY FEW so called popular artists that would be so respected among both - audience and musicians / reviewers.

One like to remember when they got laid for the first time once "Purple Rain" played in background, the others cannot ignore what the man can record or how can he perform if he gets down to it, and what records can he produce just for own pleasure and pleasure of his dedicated fans. :2 cents:

This statement leads me to believe that you know absolutely nothing about Prince.

I don't care for his music at all. I don't care for his shows. I don't care for the fanfare. But to honestly sit there and say that this man is not a great musician and does not have great talent is... well, stupid.

How many artists, and I'll use that word very loosely, do you know that can stand up and say that they taught themselves how to play multiple instruments as a youngster? And of those artists, how many can say that they have mastered said instruments?

Prince can.

Please learn basic grammar before lecturing others about intellect.

Prince rocked last year's Super Bowl half time show :thumbsup

When people steal music or anything from a major producer or someone like Prince it's rarely the top dogs in the company or the artist who suffers. They will not miss not buying a new jet as much as the girl working in the shop or office who has to be fired because of falling sales revenue.

So all the debate about "Prince" can afford it is bullshit. Utter and complete bullshit. The people at the bottom who are out of a job can't afford it. Stop trying to justify your lack of morals and ethics with "They can afford it." :mad:

LMAO
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Musical talent has nothing to do with brains its like something that can just come to you like poetry in your head. This person is really not worth the time of day talking about anyway but if i had my way with the law i would tell him to fuck off period!
Everybody here will be guilty of some kind of copyright infringment anyway and as far as money and materialism goes its obvious that with a lot of people its never ending and thats like a obsession like anything else.
I am not against capitalism and not against success by any means however inventors and people alike have far more value than a person like the boy wonder who likes to flaunt himself about like a cheap whore and complain about some shitty videos years old appearing on some site!
etc etc....

Talking about singers one i find incredibly pathetic is ozzy osbourne who else agress with me?

Sorry you think i am so illiterate i did a bottle of wine and bottle of scotch yesterday while posting on here something i am going to do today when i go out and get some.I wonder if you could write so straight when u are screwed out of your head on booze?

things getting philosophical again...:helpme

Yes i am a great philosophist.
All this ranting is pointless but i haven't anything better to do presently!
You have to keep yourself amused somehow.

i doubt he will win anything with any of them

Here is the difference. When the TV studios broadcast a show they know people are going record it and that they will most likely fast forward through the commercials. They understand that and still choose to broadcast the show for free. Prince didn't choose to give his music away for free. Also, when I record a show or if I copy a tape or a CD I am just one person. Sure it is still a copyright violation, but I did it once even if I give the copy to another person it is just one person. When you put something on Youtube it could get hundred of 1000's of views. When you put something on a torrent it could get 1000's of downloads. So the difference is clear to see. Me making one copy of a tape of CD for a friend may not hurt them that bad. Me making 10,000 copies of it is a pretty big deal and if I put up a CD on a torrent site and it gets 10,000 downloads that is basically what I am doing.

Yes i see all these points but even so i do not have time for people like prince who have been rich for years and are so concerned about people seeing some of his years old videos for free, videos stuff he has lived off for years and i don't think anyone else should either rich or poor!
The amount of people killing themselves in low paid jobs and all the homeless people about etc i think he is just another greedy small minded person basically but he has his rights to sue of course.
It would be a shame to see youtube destroyed because of him i think.
I don't like greedy people or corporations and i they are destructive to this enviroment and it has been proven so!

Also another point is far too many artists get far too much money for crap whether films or music and they know it!
I remember reading the huge fees they kept paying sly stallone for producing one crap movie after the other but all these people are happy to keep taking buts thats fine for them as they are the ones receiving but its not.
Thing is the things i am saying pretty much is like saying life is fair and it isent.

Having moderators approve each video would be a failure. How would they know what is stolen and what isn't? There is no pop culture expert in the entire world that could do this job with a decent level of accuracy.

Sure, they could deny a Simpsons clip from being posted... but what about the professional looking short film uploaded by a film school student? Is everything that looks professional going to get the axe?

The system they have in place now.... The system that eliminates the porn.... the users flag the video and after a certain number of flags a YouTube mod then checks it out. Users obviously do not flag clean videos that are mere copyright violations.

Copying material for private use != profiting off the mass distribution of said material

You do see the difference yes?

makes sense

His is a personal ego trip of attacking youtube about his shit and his shit only!
You do see the difference gigs yes?
Would you agree with me that a lot of people in the entertainment biz make a lot of money out of producing shit and they don't whine about it so long as the cheque arrives at their front door YES???
please think hard about it if you have probs thinking too deeply and reply back thx!

Somebody out there keep bumping this thread when it gets too old cos i want some straight answers thx!

It is simple economics. If his movies weren't making them money they wouldn't be paying him that fee. It's pretty simple. If they pay him 12 million for a movie that costs them a total of 60 million to make and it does 60 million in the US and another 60 million in the rest of the world they are already in profit before they even get to DVD sales, Pay per view, TV and cable.

There are only a few people out there that have a name draw and he is one of them. Sure many of his movies flat out suck, but people still pay to see them. As long as people are willing to pay to see him be in a crappy movie he will continue to make bank. Don't be pissed at him, be pissed at the legions of people that see his movies.

A good example of this at work is Steven Segal. For several years he was a huge star. He can't act, his movies all suck and are pretty much the same story rehashed, but they sold big and he made a lot of money. then people got sick of him and his movies. Soon he was making much less and now it is very difficult for him to even get a movie made.

There is a difference between being greedy and wanting to control what you own. He created these videos and this music. He owns them. Should he not have a right to say how and when they are played/sold/used? That is what he is doing here. He doesn't want Youtube to be able to display his stuff without his approval and he is taking them to court to make them stop.

Answer me this. Let's say you make good money running a company that builds lawnmowers. You make them and people buy them. Then one day you find out that someone broke into your warehouse and took a bunch of lawn mowers that you had made and they were now using these lawn mowers to run a landscaping business. You tell them you want your mowers back but they say to you, "well, you weren't using them, they were just sitting there." So you say to them,"That doesn't matter, they are mine." To which they reply, "too bad, you've made a bunch of money selling lawn mowers you aren't going to miss a few." And they keep doing what they were doing and don't stop. Is it greedy to sue them to make them give you back your lawn mowers?

Who in the fuck listens to that PURPLE SHIT !!!

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I personally think about 90% of what comes out of the entertainment biz is garbage. But other people must disagree with me because they continue to buy it. If there is a buyer for a product they will continue to make it. Are you saying that they should outlaw music/movies that you personally don't like?

No i don't cos i would make the most shitty movie i could to get rich like them tomorrow!
PERIOD!

Isn't that just greed then and aren't you railing against greed in this thread?

They weren't doing the biz thats my whole fucking point wake up for christsakes!

NO i am not u know why smartass cos i am not wearing their shoes!
think about it?

Well, clearly you don't know as much about the movie business as you think you do.

http://www.the-numbers.com/people/SSTAL.php check out the stats. He has over 3billion in box office grosses and when you look at that list there are only a couple of movies where he was the main star that didn't do a ton of business. Add onto those numbers DVD sales, TV and Cable sales and pay per view.

You confuse me. In one post you rail agianst people putting out shit and making money off it and you call them greedy for doing it. Then you admit that you would do the same and shomehow that is not greedy.

Go Prince. :thumbsup

Everyone's has their own tastes, and is entitled to their own opinions, but these-here statements just make you look like one hella-unobservant individual. :2 cents:

Haha, like he's actually going to have any effect whatsoever on TPB.