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commonsense 10-04-2007 06:02 PM

I love those that think anyone is untouchable. :1orglaugh



And any of you stupid fucks living in those countries, or operating similar illegal sites should keep your mouths shut, stay under the radar and make the money while you can. All good things (and bad) come to an end at some point.

gideongallery 10-04-2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13186476)
Here is their first response:

Dear Mr Belville


thank you for your request.

Our Customers have full root access to their servers. Unfortunately we are not able to do something against such activities.

good for them
you should be sending them notices that are complient with the German = of the DMCA

and not trying to force them to obey American Laws

pudcat 10-04-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13188903)
good for them
you should be sending them notices that are complient with the German = of the DMCA

and not trying to force them to obey American Laws

I was just going to ask basically the exact same question, why should they be paying any attention to a DMCA notice? (of course I'm asking from a legal perspective not a common sense stolen content one) it appears they're fully outside of the US... The bandwidth providers on the other hand may pay some attention.

chadknowslaw 10-04-2007 08:37 PM

The simplified answer is international cooperation in enforcement of intellectual property. Most countries, including Germany and the US, do have an operational treaty or agreement that each will recognize the intellectual property rights conferred by the other at some level.
Thus, if a German producer sends a notice to a US host that his stolen German content is being hosted on the US host, the US host will take that down.

gideongallery 10-05-2007 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13189874)
The simplified answer is international cooperation in enforcement of intellectual property. Most countries, including Germany and the US, do have an operational treaty or agreement that each will recognize the intellectual property rights conferred by the other at some level.
Thus, if a German producer sends a notice to a US host that his stolen German content is being hosted on the US host, the US host will take that down.


are you talking about the Berne Convention
because if you are there is a massive difference between recognizing "intellectual property rights" (your trademark/patent/copyright registered in your country is valid UNDER my countries laws)
to your countries laws supercede my countries laws.

in your example a german producer would still have to send DMCA complient notice instead of his countries = because he would be respecting the validity of US laws (he also would want to since DMCA is stricter than the German =)

ian_ 10-05-2007 05:28 AM

contact intergenia.de they run the datacenter that server4you is based out of they will probably help you more then the techs at server4you

chadknowslaw 10-05-2007 03:59 PM

I am not sure what really happened but the site is down -- and this message is on their page:


Due to a Hardware Crash we're temporary down.

Instead of waiting for our Provider to fix that, we're leaving to another country ( NL )
We're back in Approximatly 48 hours on even Faster Machines!!

Don't stop your Torrents.. leave your Clients ONLINE.. so we dont loose our content


My guess is that someone that I contacted decided this was not a website they should be hosting!

Thank you everybody for your help and advice.

Aussie Rebel 10-05-2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13194539)
I am not sure what really happened but the site is down -- and this message is on their page:


Due to a Hardware Crash we're temporary down.

Instead of waiting for our Provider to fix that, we're leaving to another country ( NL )
We're back in Approximatly 48 hours on even Faster Machines!!

Don't stop your Torrents.. leave your Clients ONLINE.. so we dont loose our content


My guess is that someone that I contacted decided this was not a website they should be hosting!

Thank you everybody for your help and advice.

Great news mate

chadknowslaw 10-05-2007 04:15 PM

Unless they really DID have a hardware crash that was so awful and that servers4you just could not handle that the accused thieves had to move their operation to another country..........


What host will have this site next week??

stev0 10-05-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM (Post 13186259)
Why not go after the advertisers and set some precedent for contributory or vicarious infringement.

Without the advertisers, these sites cease to exist.

Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.

chadknowslaw 10-05-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 13194602)
Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.


I think piracy has been around since the invention of paper~

tony286 10-05-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 13194602)
Well... They would still exist, but at least they wouldn't be collecting a paycheque off someone elses work. Piracy on the net was around long before dating affiliate programs.

Yes but it was piracy in another form, now its paid for with ads thats the only way they can make money off of it. Any processing they get is killed pretty quickly. Its not like the guy on the corner selling knocks off for cash.Kill the ads you kill the cash flow. Now someone wants to make a BT full of content they paid to produce and give it away more power to them.


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