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Chio 10-05-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 13195402)
1.50 for sending money? only 6 times as much as the competition you want to target....

For epass it costs 2.00 to make a payout to affiliates (en masse) paypal charges 1.00 for their mass payment option but it cannot be used for adult.

Not sure who you're referring to with those numbers but I think we're very competitive being in the middle of the two.

PMdave 10-05-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13195419)
anyone here making over $15,000 a year isn't worried about $1.50 a transaction.

yeah well... as I'm quite happy with the current solution the price count be a selling point

PMdave 10-05-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13195425)
For epass it costs 2.00 to make a payout to affiliates (en masse) paypal charges 1.00 for their mass payment option but it cannot be used for adult.

Not sure who you're referring to with those numbers but I think we're very competitive being in the middle of the two.

sorry I was talking about a regular transfer

webgurl 10-05-2007 08:13 PM

If this pans out you have a Large Market Cornered
I wish u the very best luck :) !!! Alot of peeps do ....

AmeliaG 10-05-2007 08:16 PM

Congrats!

pr0 10-05-2007 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 13195432)
sorry I was talking about a regular transfer

dude I'm happy with epass too....but i'll use chio's shit too

never put all your eggs in one basket, & anyone bitching about $1.50...well, jesus man lol....most of us made 3x that in the time it took to type this

Jace 10-05-2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave (Post 13195432)
sorry I was talking about a regular transfer

you are talking about a p2p transfer, which is $.25 with epassporte

V_RocKs 10-05-2007 08:35 PM

Ever had a security guy go through it yet?

Chio 10-05-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13195468)
you are talking about a p2p transfer, which is $.25 with epassporte

You do have to pay to fund your account though (as high as 25.00 if I remember correctly) which is already factored into their rates. So you're likely paying more than 25 cents.

I will say this... we will be competitive with all of the major p2p systems.

Spunky 10-05-2007 08:47 PM

Chio will be rich

Mutt 10-05-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13195412)
Sorry Mutt the rates for 3rd party are 5% for beta (grandfathered)

5%? the other third party processors are between 12 and 15%. how can you offer such a better rate? for high risk internet even if i got a merchant account it would be about 8% I thought.

Drake 10-05-2007 08:52 PM

Very interesting news. Congrats Chio.

Chio 10-05-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13195496)
5%? the other third party processors are between 12 and 15%. how can you offer such a better rate? for high risk internet even if i got a merchant account it would be about 8% I thought.

I have been an IPSP since 1998 (my avs) and have built up very solid relationships so I am able to get pretty good rates. :)

Also it is only 5% for beta (which stays with you after launch) we will likely launch at 10% with a sliding scale based on the risk of an individual merchant.

For example a merchant with very few chargebacks processing rate would begin to decline over time and the flip side is a merchant with a high number would increase.

We don't think it's fair to charge someone doing clean business the same rate as a merchant that isn't.

starpimps 10-05-2007 08:57 PM

ooo snap, great news!

This will be a force to be reckoned with :thumbsup

congrats chio

Aric 10-05-2007 09:20 PM

Chio for president!

yargh!

Mutt 10-05-2007 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13195517)
I have been an IPSP since 1998 (my avs) and have built up very solid relationships so I am able to get pretty good rates. :)

Also it is only 5% for beta (which stays with you after launch) we will likely launch at 10% with a sliding scale based on the risk of an individual merchant.

For example a merchant with very few chargebacks processing rate would begin to decline over time and the flip side is a merchant with a high number would increase.

We don't think it's fair to charge someone doing clean business the same rate as a merchant that isn't.

that sounds good

Shoehorn! 10-05-2007 09:45 PM

Congratulations man. :thumbsup

Jace 10-05-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13195480)
You do have to pay to fund your account though (as high as 25.00 if I remember correctly) which is already factored into their rates. So you're likely paying more than 25 cents.

I will say this... we will be competitive with all of the major p2p systems.

i don't ever fund my account with epassporte, the last thing I wanna do is go out of my way to give them money, with you it will be different though

in fact, until last month I wasn't allowed to fund my account because I didn't purchase one of their visa cards....LOL

I usually let money come in from a couple of sponsors I let pay me by epass, then use that money for p2p, which is $.25

Mickey Mouse 10-05-2007 09:56 PM

Looks good. Sure hope it works out. Suggestion for ya though, I'd feel a bit more comfortable if you used SSL on the signup page--I'm sure you'll do this before it's out of beta though.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-05-2007 10:01 PM

nice, about time chio, always spouting off about it in irc!

Chio 10-05-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Mouse (Post 13195657)
Looks good. Sure hope it works out. Suggestion for ya though, I'd feel a bit more comfortable if you used SSL on the signup page--I'm sure you'll do this before it's out of beta though.

The signup forms are secured. I inadvertanly posted the non secure link in my post but if you go to the site and click the send money link you'll be directed to the secure page.

Sorry about that.

peterk 10-05-2007 10:06 PM

Nice :)

Juicy D. Links 10-05-2007 10:08 PM

chio will be there like a atm type card

he-fox 10-05-2007 10:09 PM

QUOTE:
and soon via debit or virtual credit card.
/QUOTE

I'm expecting for this one to happen. Which bank will handle the VISA or MC cards?

Juicy D. Links 10-05-2007 10:10 PM

forget last question i am tired i didnt read earlier post , can i get a cobranded visa card?

minusonebit 10-05-2007 10:14 PM

Is anyone running a book yet on how long before ePass fails completely?

gecko 10-05-2007 11:18 PM

this is great news

madawgz 10-05-2007 11:21 PM

thats awesome :thumbsup

minusonebit 10-05-2007 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecko (Post 13195937)
this is great news

You can say that again. :thumbsup

polish_aristocrat 10-05-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13195407)
i am not quite sure that many people grasp the gravity of this new service that chio is offering

and one thing is for sure, with Chio behind it, it WILL NOT fail..he is one person I would stake my entire reputation on, when he does shit, he does it right the first time

I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts. :2 cents:

marko13 10-05-2007 11:31 PM

good luck chio with that new option....

minusonebit 10-05-2007 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13196001)
I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts. :2 cents:

iBill? :1orglaugh

Chio 10-05-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13196001)
I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts. :2 cents:

You do raise some valid concerns and this is precisely why there are banking laws, money transmission requirements, and accountability... to keep people safe.

I am offering a solution to people that are looking for one but it's simple...
If you don't feel comfortable using a new system... don't.

Shoehorn! 10-06-2007 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13196001)
I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.

Then I suspect you've never met him or even talked with him. I can honestly say hes one of the most trustworthy, honest people that I know, and I normally don't trust ANYONE.

In fact, I can count on one hand the people I actually trust, including family, and he is one of them. :2 cents:

Jace 10-06-2007 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13196001)
I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts. :2 cents:

after this past year for me I can say Chio is one of maybe 10 total people in adult that would trust, and that is out of knowing 1000+ people in the adult industry

and if you still trust the "co-owner or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult" after this past year then I hate to say it, but you need help....epass has shown to be one of the most incompetent companies in adult

btw, why isn't Chris Mallick ceo/co-owner of paycom anymore?

martinsc 10-06-2007 01:25 AM

wow, finally some real good news on gfy :thumbsup
great job Chio :thumbsup
as soon as the cards are ready and sponsors will paying through VC - i'll be in :thumbsup

Due 10-06-2007 01:54 AM

I see no information about what a credit card load to the account cost, or any other fees involved.
I dont see how you can launch a service without a price list.

JuiceMonkey 10-06-2007 02:50 AM

We've been one of the lucky ones who got to beta test this out. From the moment you sign up you can easily see that this service will dominate the market very quickly.

I don't think people understand how good of an offer this is, 5% processing is unheard of at any processor, even if you're one of the big boys!

Congrats on the soft launch, and we can't wait until all of the features are unrolled.

VicD 10-06-2007 02:53 AM

cool, gonna check it out right now...
are the aff programs also interested to use the service?

macker 10-06-2007 02:55 AM

Congrats on the launch, the industry has needed a viable alternative for a long while.


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