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will76 10-06-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13197923)
Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come



Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13197619)
so how will Quickbuck respond:

1. no response just ignore and hope it goes away (aka SexSearch Approach)

2. come in here and insult people and say "its legal" and say a lot of stupid shit (aka Lars approach).

3. Blame it on a bad affiliate (industry default response)


ding ding we have a winner. #3 blamed the affiliate.


I hope ccbill sues, if they subpenaed your records you would have to show proof it was an affiliate other then us just having to take your word for it.

fuzebox 10-06-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13197923)
Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come

There's no way for a random affiliate to send directly to your merchant page unless you set up a redirect for him though...

Jace 10-06-2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 13197965)
There's no way for a random affiliate to send directly to your merchant page unless you set up a redirect for him though...

oh snap!

xxxice 10-06-2007 12:54 PM

U didn't notice this "affiliate" before today?

xclusive 10-06-2007 12:56 PM

http://fuckpros.com/gfy/quickbuck-hindenburg.jpg:2 cents::2 cents:

thonglife 10-06-2007 12:59 PM

That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

See sig asshole.. see sig.

Jace 10-06-2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thonglife (Post 13197993)
That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

See sig asshole.. see sig.

or maybe their affiliate just happened to be right next to the phone when they called and instantly turned it all off

ROFL..yeah, right

Mutt 10-06-2007 01:01 PM

oh yeah the 'rogue affiliate' thing is really going to work in 2007 :1orglaugh

sell stupid someplace else we're all stocked up here.

Thomas N 10-06-2007 01:02 PM

Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

Heading back out into the nice weather. :)

fuzebox 10-06-2007 01:04 PM

I'm also curious, don't a lot of sales with 0 clicks set off your fraud detection tools?

2012 10-06-2007 01:05 PM

http://www.sexphotoblog.com/LifeStinks.jpg

thonglife 10-06-2007 01:05 PM

Hey Fallguy.. I am not and never will be an affiliate of QuickSteal. Perhaps you can explain

Quote:

That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now.
So are you saying you have an affiliate that compromised my server? If that's the case.. you are in some deep fucking shit. :1orglaugh

Jace 10-06-2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 13198020)
I'm also curious, don't a lot of sales with 0 clicks set off your fraud detection tools?

OMFG :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mikeyddddd 10-06-2007 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwordFish (Post 13198008)
Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

Heading back out into the nice weather. :)

So you banned the account.

What would happen with the stolen joins?


kektex 10-06-2007 01:11 PM

I'm so glad this thread came up before I sent a single click to these people.
Their reply was so predictable.

Gnus 10-06-2007 01:11 PM

I just passing on the message from the ICQ convo we had is all. I said assumed if you read the response I gave. Busy pulling links as we speak.

Gary

Quickdraw 10-06-2007 01:11 PM

Ray @ Tasty-
If a site has any traffic, you can bet they are a target.
See the Hustler grab I posted. The target was secure.hustler.com

idownload and quickbuck have the same owner according to the xbiz article posted.
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/idownload.com

dig420 10-06-2007 01:13 PM

One of these days you people will learn... anyone who will fuck the surfer will fuck the webmaster. It's not just quickbuck. ANY proggie that spams big time, opens endless consoles, double bills - if they'll fuck a surfer they'll fuck you.

If you want an honest proggie, find one that is honest with the surfer and makes their money with good sticky sites. That's who's going to take care of you in the long term. If they treat the surfer right, they'll treat you right.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 01:16 PM

CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.

pocketkangaroo 10-06-2007 01:16 PM

So an affiliate in your program can bypass the site and link directly to the merchant billing page without an affiliate code? To a site that isn't even listed in your affiliate panel. And all this without you noticing that not a single click is sent to the site yet all these sales are coming in?

Seriously, do you really think people are buying this?

Ray@TastyDollars 10-06-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13198039)
Ray @ Tasty-
If a site has any traffic, you can bet they are a target.
See the Hustler grab I posted. The target was secure.hustler.com

idownload and quickbuck have the same owner according to the xbiz article posted.
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/idownload.com

Ahh, I didnt notice Hustler. Thx man

SomeCreep 10-06-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13197923)
Ok well It's family time. But Affiliate will be banned asap. And for those claiming xxxpass isnt in our program you are very wrong. ITs in there you just have to request it. More to come

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwordFish (Post 13198008)
Guys, I have banned the account. Any time you guys find something like this, email it to me [email protected] and I can handle it fast. I would have resolved this faster had I not been at a family outing.

Heading back out into the nice weather. :)

http://www.ppowgallery.com/artists/J...0as%20Liar.jpg

Mutt 10-06-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13198054)
CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.

that's not fair to CCBILL - Paycom's join pages were hijacked as well and even programs like Hustler who do their own billing.

jscott 10-06-2007 01:21 PM

i dont have much traffic going to quickbuck, but the small amounts i do is getting pulled now, and blacklisting quickbuck aswell on my sponsors page

thats fucked up guys

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 01:21 PM

i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.

Sebastian Sands 10-06-2007 01:22 PM

everyone says ccbill needs to... But is quickbuck processing through ccbill or epoch? the billing companies still get their cash from you or quickbuck or anyone else.. not pointing fingers just saying.

Sebs

MaDalton 10-06-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13198044)
One of these days you people will learn... anyone who will fuck the surfer will fuck the webmaster. It's not just quickbuck. ANY proggie that spams big time, opens endless consoles, double bills - if they'll fuck a surfer they'll fuck you.

If you want an honest proggie, find one that is honest with the surfer and makes their money with good sticky sites. That's who's going to take care of you in the long term. If they treat the surfer right, they'll treat you right.

my thoughts exactly :2 cents:

thonglife 10-06-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

jscott 10-06-2007 01:26 PM

i still cant believe how all these scamming companies appear to be totally untouchable from laws, it's shocking, and sad :(

pocketkangaroo 10-06-2007 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thonglife (Post 13198099)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4zbmENT4D0k

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 01:43 PM

here you go zoo crew... i don't think we'll be commenting further. no point.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=13198153

Taass 10-06-2007 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13197565)
I'd expect ccBill and Paycom to get their legal teams all over this.
WG

Just what I was thinking.. Having one account holder stealing from the others should have them pulled from billing right away :mad:

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:03 PM

Quick Buck is also at the end of the line for all the sites like this:

http://www.anjalikara.org/

packed full of "borrowed" content from other programs used to promote only xxxpass.

Nice stuff.

mikeyddddd 10-06-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13197387)
This was posted in another thread.
If a surfer with the zango toolbar tries to join a ccbill site they get popped with the XXXPass join form on top of the Ccbill join form.

What can be done to stop this? This is definitely hurts all sites processing with ccbill.

I'm curious about what would happen if someone used Zango to target xxxpass.com.

georgeyw 10-06-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198161)
here you go zoo crew... i don't think we'll be commenting further. no point.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=13198153

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

holy shit, there are some seriously unethical people in this industry and you'd probably just about make #1 :thumbsup

SleazyDream 10-06-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex (Post 13197417)
I guess you could drop ccbill


wouldn't just be ccbill - they could do it on any processor.

good thing is doing it to ccbill, they just went after a MAJOR corporation that will protect their assets and reputation in court with major lawyers.

BIG mistake for zango. will take time but ccbill won't let something like this go.

mpahlca 10-06-2007 02:52 PM

I wonder if anyone buying trademark terms such as; Hustler or Twistys is really thinking about trademark and copyright violation? It will be interesting to see, what a lawyer has to say about it.

rowan 10-06-2007 02:52 PM

Possible quick fix: a timed self.focus() if the biller's join page detects zango installed? That will ensure the proper join page pulls focus and is on top, although it will still ultimately damage surfer confidence after they complete the signup and find another paysite signup form underneath it.

BlackCrayon 10-06-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198083)
i'm going to start a seperate thread to answer this. not much use when the witches claim we're either stealing or lying.

Good luck explaining how it was linked directly to your merchant page.

QuaWee 10-06-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thonglife (Post 13197608)
I hear ya man... headed to mainstream as well.

it happens in manstream too. trust me

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 03:49 PM

I thought doing all this shit was pretty normal, now it is not?
It's been goin for years, so now it is NOT OK?

I mentioned this a while back ago and was called an idiot, that its not happening and that even if it is nothing can will be done about it.

I do not give a fuck one way another, you people are just stupid.

Wondering how much longer it's gonna take you morons to see code swaps on sign up pages next...

dig420 10-06-2007 03:54 PM

you are a genius Alien, we all bask in your glory. Thanks.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13198674)
you are a genius Alien, we all bask in your glory. Thanks.


If ya guys thought I was wealthy ya all would be sucking my dick at the snap of a finger to:1orglaugh

But on another note, you guys keep pointing shit out on some sort of band wagon and its the kinda shit that has been happening for quite a while...

I do not know what happened to smart webmaster's I really don't.

I just gave the adult webmaster community more credit than I should have. Fact is you people are fucking DUMB. When I say something I am an idiot and retard...

When a retard goes and says it, you people are like OMGz how!!!! ???? OMGS thats theft!!!

:(

It's pathetic. But since my new policy of not giving a shit about any of this, I have been knocking out my own corner of the universe and its gettin better every day.

Juicy D. Links 10-06-2007 03:59 PM

god i love this biz.... amazing

qxm 10-06-2007 04:07 PM

this is some fucked up shit......

TampaToker 10-06-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 13197679)
We have seen a larger % of people filling out the nats join form only to never make it thru the sale the past couple weeks. No denial emails from CCbill just abrupt end. Given a % get cold feet but I have suspected a bigger issue is at hand and this gives me almost certainty.

yeap yeap same thing here :Oh crap

Shoplifter 10-06-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13198054)
CCBill needs to take action against Zango and Quickbuck. Quite simply, this is putting me in the position of not wanting to send traffic to sites that use the standard CCBill interface. The value of their business and the trust of webmasters in this billing method has clearly been hurt.

I feel sorry for anyone using CCBill direct at this point, because without change, things don't look good right now.

Absolutely. This undermines the basic fundamentals of the whole industry and CCBill must put the legal slam on these guys to ensure that trust in the process and product is maintained.

And not just CCBill...I suppose the time has come for all of the processors and webmasters themselves to be vigilant in detecting and combating this sort of fraud. I'm installing Zango on an old box and intend to do some urfing this weekend to see what comes up.

TampaToker 10-06-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thonglife (Post 13197993)
That's total fucking bullshit. I installed zango when all this went down. I then went to one of my own free sites and clicked the very first link I saw which happened to be a Raging Bucks NATS link. I clicked through to the join page, filled in the information for user details and clicked "Join Now" to passthrough to Epoch. The join page came up only to be poped completely over with your shit. You got caught and just now turned the shit off.. because it's not doing it now. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

See sig asshole.. see sig.

Son of a bitch just tried it myself sure enough fuckin popup :mad:

dig420 10-06-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13198685)
If ya guys thought I was wealthy ya all would be sucking my dick at the snap of a finger to:1orglaugh

But on another note, you guys keep pointing shit out on some sort of band wagon and its the kinda shit that has been happening for quite a while...

I do not know what happened to smart webmaster's I really don't.

I just gave the adult webmaster community more credit than I should have. Fact is you people are fucking DUMB. When I say something I am an idiot and retard...

When a retard goes and says it, you people are like OMGz how!!!! ???? OMGS thats theft!!!

:(

It's pathetic. But since my new policy of not giving a shit about any of this, I have been knocking out my own corner of the universe and its gettin better every day.

nah I wouldn't allow some of the richest guys in this business to come in my house.

The funny thing is that you REALLY think you're the first one to 'speak out' on this type of thing, and everybody just ignored you because... well... you're you.

Keep your nose to the grindstone, it's the best policy.

NinjaSteve 10-06-2007 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 13197505)
That's just brutal.

Should we expect a reply from Quickbuck in here?

Brutal indeed.


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