Document it, take them to court. Stop being a bunch of pussies.

This industry just keeps getting more fucked up week after week

Wow I have seen TONS of those but never clicked through far enough to see what they were doing. What a bunch of fucking scammers. I won't be sending quickbuck another visitor.

I think I am going to build one right now. One with info on how/who to blacklist, Zango removal, Up to date info, Maybe even a fund to hire some good lawyers to start putting a stop to all of this bullshit.

I will help spread the awareness, Your sig img now graces my sig. I think I am going to put a site up shortly to focus on all of this.

I am always amazed that just when I thought the industry had reached the lowest point possible, some idiot manages to drill through the bedrock and sink us all even further.

You can get it from hotbar.com, seekmo.com, zango.com, and I'm sure there are more, but that should cover you :)

Then you should see the stuff I can't post:throwup

Says the lowlife that stopped paying his affiliates for 9 months because of a
"database crash". Shut your fucking mouth about what is honest, lowlife crook.

Hum i see 2 people bidding on bill.ccbill.com 0.0170, 0.0160


Anyone see any other popup besides the quickbuck one? or did i miss it.....

lol and they all got paid too, didn't they?

what are you upset about? Did I say you fuck people? Nope, I said anyone who fucks someone else will fuck YOU too. Something in that statement you identify with? Do you fuck people over? I didn't say you did but if YOU say you did then I'll take it as gospel.

So what's the problem?

Don't even try to make this shit about me. I could give a fuck, and I already know nothing is going to happen because of this thread and won't happen until someone hires a lawyer. You don't see my proggie being sued by anyone, you don't see any mass emails from me, you don't see me buying traffic from Zango. You don't see me offering 50 dollar free trials that anyone with an ounce of sense knows can't be profitable on ANY level.

Don't get all pissed at me if you walked into a fucking mess, because this is about YOU.

I will post this here and refer to this thread. And it will be the last thing I say abou this matter. http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/774635-quickbuck-zango-pop-response.html

What I was saying before people was that we responded to the thread like everyone asked. People didnt like the responses thats fine.

The acount was Terminated. And the affiliate was notified Traffic was no longer being excepted. Frankly I have nothing more to say on this. When an affiliate program does promo's like $50 joins for the rest of the year You get all kinds of traffic sources sending. Shit like this happens. And honestly Im sure if the affiliate isnt sending to us he will be sending to someone else.

Sure some of them got paid. 9 months late. You don't want the spotlight on your shady practices, don't try to jump on the bashing bandwagon when you live in a glass house built on a sand foundation.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../1orglaugh.gif http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../1orglaugh.gif http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../1orglaugh.gif

Appears to be 2 credit card offers from cardtrax.com
One for centennialapplication.com and the other for premiercreditcardsf.com

ALL of them got paid, PERIOD. Everyone who's EVER done business with me since 1996 has gotten paid, and in full. I don't even fuck surfers.

So tell me again what all this zango, stolen content, lawsuits, 2500.00 free trial joins etc Quickbuck is involved with has to do with the fact that I, at one point in a 11 year career, had to hold up payment because I couldn't find a programmer to fix my payout stats correctly? Why do you think you have to come on here and make threats and tell me to shut my fucking mouth? You really think that's going to work? Does that make you look like a reliable, business oriented individual who can be trusted with valuable traffic?

I wasn't bashing, but I can if you want to go there.

I'm curious, were you high and mighty when you ran out of money and made your affiliates float you a loan by stopping paying for 9 months? What about when you brought in a professional spammer to try and start your own spam operation? How did that work out for you, I forget.

Again I will say it again. We have posted our facts. See this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/774635-quickbuck-zango-pop-response.html If you choose to not believe it it is your choice. We will not discuss this matter publically any longer. Feel free to hit anyone from www.quickbuck.com up directly. Thanks

FACT Dig420 biz is not shady...

Thats fucking preposterous.

IDIOTS...

interesting stuff

Stopping paying honest webmasters for 9 months isn't shady?? If any other program did that you would be ALL OVER their ass.

This is illegal and wrong on so many levels

And if they can do it to CCBILL, they can do it for anything else, except probably for nats, as i see from the url they're using it, but they can exclued their own gateway or something, then they can do it to nats as well with other updates

this Zango toolbar needs to be stopped.

I still want to know if someone can pop on xxxpass.com after they pop over ccbill.

And then what happens if someone pops over whatever pops over xxxpass, and so on, and so on and so on.

NO not really...:1orglaugh
I aint that broke to cry about it.
Beisdes I know DIG...

He would make sure everyone is paid. Just like he did.

Sorry, had to go watch my hero Barrera get his ass kicked.

Swordfish I've known you for a long time and never had a problem with you, and I can tell what's going thru your mind just from the way you're posting. You KNOW what's up with this situation, and so does the entire board for whatever that's worth. I don't have a dog in this fight. If I did I wouldn't be posting, I'd be hiring an attorney. You do biz the way that you think is right. You're the one who has to live with it.

dig, you didnt pay webmasters?

i'm not accusing, just asking... this is the first time i've ever heard about this.

i think we started at about the same time.... would you say that jumping in threads about other people's businesses has made you a wealthy man?

i redirect my traffic to this page with htacess
http://www.sexabulous.com/zango.html

I think that a destination URL customer can get "protection" within the Zango system, effectively blocking others from hitting their stuff.

Having witnessed the origins of spyware 5 years ago I am surprised it has taken all of you this god damn long to figure it out. So many sponsors do it. Go read Netpond 4 years ago. Read GFY 4 years back. Lots of top companies had tool bars. A lot of them got caught and they figured out a way to do it under the radar. This has been going on for a long time. A long long time. Now people are getting caught because they are stupid. (and because they don't invent the software - they just buy ads from other people.)
Why market when you can steal from your peers? Why work when you can steal? Lots of assholes that you trust do it. It will only get worse I'm sure of it.

That's what I'm curious about as well, whether Zango has some sort of rate limiting or other method to detect a console-off-a-console, or whether they'll just pop whenever and whatever they can.

Just like email spam, many profited from it, but in the end 99% of them have moved away from it as the risk / return ratios went down the toilet. I think that someone like Diamond Jim spending the next 63 months in jail should be a total wakeup call to many in the industry that at some point, the penalties aren't just "a cost of doing business" but means you could spend time in a federal butt slamming prison.

My feeling is that the toolbar thing is about get blown wide open.

Nope, I paid every dime, and it's paying every dime and conducting my business in an ethical and fair manner with webmasters and with customers that has made me a wealthy man. I sleep well at night.

What made you a wealthy man?

I can name 5 companies in as many seconds that are 10x more unethical and dishonest than DJ ever was. He must have had a shitty lawyer, because operations thousands of times bigger than his have paid fines and moved on their merry way doing even worse shit.

And Epoch or any other biller. This will be all the CCBILL execs will be talking about Monday morning, if not before. They are stealing from the original biller. How long before Visa gets wind?

Well. Diamond J was a moron then. There are some smart people in the BG laughing at him and everyone else.

Of course they know who he is, this "affiliate" if it's true is not a nickel and dime guy sending 2 sign ups a week.

Has anyone contacted the Merchant Account bank? They might be in the frame once informed if they don't close the account.

dam.......no wonder my CCbill stuff wasn't getting any sales (or clicks), fuckin zango bastards ......... someone needs to 2s that site out of existence

Could you put up a thread or even a site and keep us all informed. If you do hit me up for some free content. Or even money.

We all need to get together and pay for people to watch our backs professionally.

Do QuickBuck use Nats? Sorry for asking if it's obvious.

So where are NATS on this, I thought they were very anti shaving.

AND PLEASE PEOPLE STOP SIDE TRACKING THIS WITH POSTS ABOUT DIG AND ALIEN. It's about Quick Bucks and a mystery affiliate.

well I think this is not worse than anybody using skiming in a tgp or owning a circle jerk site, or spaming

Mutt, Rand popped up in the other thread and said Epoch was looking into it as well. Taking odds on whether anything will actually be done? Zango will lawyer up super quick and it would be an expensive battle, even if you're sure you'll win...

yeah no shit... everytime I post someone gets all butt hurt.

i'm getting depressed again...

I think as long as we have proof we SHOULD create a public shitlist WITH PROOF.
it's the least this industry can do to protect itself and leave the money to the good players instead of the scammers.
the more time passes the more obvious it is we need a shitlist in a place like GFY where almost every adult webmaster passes.
a thread on GFY that may or may not be noticed is not enough, whenever an adult webmaster wants to trade traffic, join a program, approve an affiliate, choose a billing processor - it should go and check the shitlist before doing so.
tell me, is this such a bad idea ?

Paying $50 Per Free trial has helped!

You mean they way you work in order to make a profit doing so...?

What about Idownload did it made you guys wealthy?

zango is advertising a lot on ifilm.com, and many other web 2.0 sites.. This is only going to get worse..

Here is kind of an answer. The whole thread is an interesting read.
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/275929-porngraph-installs-trojans-8.html

holy shit i mention for last month what count of join page hit and joins are drop down, interestin how much people are install the protection already?

Where does this go??? ON the index page or what?