http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...&highlight=WEG

i posted about this thief months ago - hundreds of dot orgs with name porn stars and models using everybody else's content all going to WEG.

hallelujah it's raining rogue affiliates!

You still haven't responded or acted on the affiliate promoting you with stolen content on the .org domains. Lord Aga spoke up about his stolen content in this thread in fact.

BUSINESS is NOT synonymous with THEFT and FRAUD

A thief is a thief, not a businessman.

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boohoo... somebody is better at SEO than you.. i'll write you an apology letter over that and i'll kiss it before i mail it.

if however somebody is using YOUR content and you did not give it away for free to them then you bet i'll take action on it... will i take action based on 9, 90, or 9000 gfy monkey's posts. the answer is no.

we're not hard to reach. if you *actually* have a problem with us then you can handle it like a grown up... otherwise i'll assume that as usual you're just trying desperately to ride on the coat tails of one of the most successful affiliate programs in existence.

Right, and if they said they were doing that you wouldn't believe them, or say that they were lying about the amount....or whatever.

On this particular question there's no right answer they can give, there's no way they can win. :2 cents:

Which program is that?

The only program owner I've seen in this thread is you :helpme

If your in the right and gfy means nothing to you, why be so nasty?

i should be nice about somebody attacking us and calling us theives?

mutt, act like a grown up. start throwing chairs out windows and spitting in peoples faces. that is what a grown up does.

and i wouldnt bother with the copyright crap, not like quickbuck hasnt been sued for it before.

yes mutt, stop soliciting teenage girls to become pornstars and start acting like a grown up.

so i guess this drama is resolved

Well someone selling your product was fucking others, maybe if you came in concerned instead of arrogant.You wouldnt of gotten attacked. Just Dale Carnegie 101.

If you were right and did nothing wrong you just ruined it by acting like an asshole. But what do you care, you only make 1% of your sales from GFY :warning

Just wondering why you took the join link off of xxxpass.com?

There's lots of things they could do to win. Maybe not tonight. And maybe not tomorrow. It won't be easy. But, if they value their reputation they will make the effort.

They have not helped themselves with the way that they have handled this situation. Their response has done nothing to restore any respect in their ability to run an honest program nor any confidence that they can correct the problems in their process and procedures that allowed the situation to occur.

They could have started with acting professionally by being contrite and offering an apology while issuing a statement on what they planned to do in anticipation of the questions they had to know would be asked, including what they were going to do with the money.

i'm sorry, do i owe the good people of gfy something?

had we been approached with a question of "QuickBuck, what the heck is going on?" then we would have approached it with an answer of "ok, we're looking into it, give us a few hours".

Do you see any threads giving us even close to a suggested opportunity to look into it?

The moment I saw the threads I knew exactly what the result of any explanation would be... just check the first few threads, the assumption is that if we don't admit to actively stealing joins that we are lying... so we're either lying or stealing?

treat me with respect, contact me about concerns, and I will do the same to you... treat me like a crook and I will treat you like an idiot.

come on are you serious??? It was posted here and with in 10 mins the zango use had stopped. During which time it was mentioned here that QuickBuck had been notifed of the gfy thread. SO you suggest that affiliates check their stats every 5 mins :upsidedow:warning:upsidedow I check at most 5 - 6 times a day, some times less. If you check your stats every couple minutes that doesn't leave you much time to... work?

Anyway QuickBuck admitted to contacting this guy and giving him a heads up. So from the time it was posted here, Quickbuck was notifed of this happening and they contacted the person doing it, who then killed his zango campaigns. All in the matter of 10 - 20 mins. That tells me that Quickbuck knew the "affilaite" really well. Either someone who they had on ICQ or picked up the phone and got in touch with them asap. Also, if this was an affiliate they knew well one would think it would only be logical that the affiliate would have let quickbuck know what they were doing.I mean come on, that is the type of activity you get approved before you start doing it.

But we all know how this game works, 9 out of 10 times the affiliate company makes an account and then uses it themself so they can deny it when they get caught. Sexbankroll was the only idiot that used zango and used their own urls LOL can't blame an affiliate on that, oh wait those idiots tried anyway.

Why do we owe you an apology? We didn't buy the traffic.

People apologize for things they do wrong, not for things the do right (like finding out about the issue and terminating the affiliate promptly).

How many joins per day have you stopped sending me exactly because of this? 0 or 0?

I don't mean this in pimpdog self destructive kind of way, but my only obligation is to my active affiliates.. not to random people who's sole claim to existence is their ability to post on gfy.

We take *great* care of our affiliate from huge payouts, custom sites, bonus points and more. If you are an actual affilliate, then you have likely already spoken to us personally and directly.

Forgive me for not being more humble and loving towards people who don't do business with me.

damn, didn't you say you were going to leave about 15 posts ago?

No. We did not.... what we said is that we notified him that his account had been banned.

Whenever we ban an account we send a corresponding e-mail saying "Your quickbuck account has been banned for xyz reason."

Will, I have no beef with you, but honestly, you didn't even give us an opportunity to respond to the issue before you began treating it like a witchhunt... had AFF acted even 1/1000th as responsibly as we did, you would have dropped your assault against them overnight.

AFF told you to fuck yourself didnt they? So why don't you keep bashing them?

Don't be a dick for no reason. We handled this as well as a sponsor could handle it.

This problem WILL come up again with other sponsors. If you're the self appointed zango watchdog then why don't you act responsibly.

Will76 = Fucking Idiot and nobody.

Since day 1.

Giving em a response only makes his cock harder he is also voted one of GFY's most useless idiots amoung the other idiots.

SO that makes em king idiot.

see your problem is that you are thinking about current affiliates and not future ones. You piss on people here because they don't send you traffic, but your actions pretty much asure yourself you wont be getting any new ones from the people reading this. But what do you care GFY is all shit and the people not sending to you already are all probably losers anyway, so nothing for you to gain from then. Thats the mentality with you "quick buck" people you are thinking today today today ! not about gaining or lossing future affiliates, just fuck you attitude if you not sending me traffic today.

AFF stopped using zango and that dog has been beat to oblivion. I would be more willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if your attitude was different. Your slogan is " we fuck the surfer". Your sites have never ending pop up loops. the account in question appears to be an old account. your company has a history of being involved with "adware". Lots of little things that dont make you look good. But if you would have stated your case with class it would have been a lot more believable then to come out right away stating " we only do 1% of our business from GFY anyway" and then started your tirade of insulting people and calling us all shit.

We don't have the facts, we have to take your word for it, When you call us shit and insult everyone you are not making us want to trust you. At that point why even reply in the first place, you try to defend yourself but then insult people in the same post, you are spinning your wheels and not gaining any ground.

I am not self appointed anything. I just a noob who likes to bitch.

yeap your wealth of wisdom never ceases to amaze me... you don't like me therefore I am an idiot and a nobody.

What ever makes you feel better about yourself... you just keep thinking that. I am glad I can make you feel better. :thumbsup

i guess the drama will go on... can't we all just get along

Only one real question to quickbuck assuming you will answer it here since most of us do not matter anyways.

If I find a site that is using my copyrighted exclusive content to promote your program and I send you a proper DMCA via a personal non public route in a professional business like manor, would you forfeit any earned affiliate funds they pulled to me from the offending site and how much legal fighting would it take to get their information or would you honestly just give it up with a legal subpoena without a fight?

I figure you could collect the older fraudulant funds from them if you desired to do so and would have no reason to not turn over all funds earned. Specially if it was handled in a professional business like manor, or are my hopes to high?

People have been complaining about CCBill ratios for awhile. You could have apologized for one of your affiliates possibly causing part of that.

In one of the threads, I mentioned that I had just started sending a few dozen hits a day to your program because of the $50 PPS. I have only put up links for a few sites and was in the process of putting up more.

Luckily (or unluckily) because of similiar situations in the past, I have a process where I can pull links quickly now.

I rarely, if ever, contact any programs or their representatives. If you like, I will contact you at your convenience to discuss this matter.

Correct. Nor do you have the facts about the past either.

Wow, you sure type a lot for somebody new. You must have very strong fingers. Congratulations.

Jesus man, you're a successful webmaster and still checking stats manually? Get with the program, stats remote has been around for years :winkwink:

So they contacted him and asked him to stop... sounds like a reasonable response to me.

Forgive me if i'm completely off base here, I haven't read too much into this little drama.

Although we both agree that it should be... zango is not illegal, and if they were comfortable with using it then getting "busted" on GFY wouldn't matter to them. You act as if they've committed a crime and have something to fear, if they came out and said "yes, we're using zango" what exactly would they have to loose? You could say they would lie about it to avoid the bad publicity... but do you honestly believe that any affiliates making good money with quickbuck would quit promoting them over something like this? And you really think they care about a bunch of newbie sheep that haven't made them a dime posting their opinions and bashing them in a GFY thread? On both accounts, I highly doubt it.

If quickbuck says they're not using zango then I'd be willing to bet they're probably not using zango. :2 cents:

If you contact us in a professional manner, i'll respond to you in a professional manner... I never said anybody had to send us a DMCA notice... i just said GFY is not our support forum.

Thanks for a partial answer, would you be so kind to address the rest of the question.

I just added the DMCA portion in as it is the legit and professional way to notify others of content infringement.

those are strange questions to ask on a message board.

To me they are not, and a message board is as good as any place to ask since it is a very honest question about personal/company policy.

as the Doors said.............."People are strange"

Correct...

didnt AlienQ hit rock bottom and basically suck dick on cam for content for money a year or so back?

:1orglaugh

Umm no.
To bad you do not know me.

Until this industry adopts a code of conduct that the billers are forced to apply by Visa this kind of thing will never stop. On one side I see wanting as little restrictions as possible and on the other side I see people breaking a non existing code of conduct, except TOS. Freedom can easily turn into anarchy.

An affiliate or sponsor hijacking traffic is not illegal, it's unethical and the affiliate will be doing that to others. The thread points out the culprit is off looking for another sponsor. How long will that take? Will Quick Bucks tell us who it is.

If Quick Bucks wanted to they could out the affiliate, they will send a note to CCBILL and Epoch who will tag his account. I'm sure the CCBILL support guys are all over this, what's their response? They know where the checks go.

What amazes me is the billers allow this. If I'm right in my interpretation of what I've read this is what happens. A surfer goes through a tour and likes it enough to join, so goes to the join form. At this point he gets a pop up from another site. That would lead to a pissed off surfer and possible a charge back.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

thanks for the advice. I will go pay for stats remote to type in my login info for clickcash so i can log in to stats remote instead of clickcash :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow when 95%+++ of my sales comes from 1 company what is the need for stats remote. I havent checked other sponsors in months.